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General Forestry => Forestry and Logging => Topic started by: Mike R on June 16, 2012, 01:17:13 PM

Title: MCP Loblolly Pine Seedlings for Deep East Texas Planting Site
Post by: Mike R on June 16, 2012, 01:17:13 PM
I'm planning on reforesting a 30 acre tract late this fall with Mass Control Pollinated (MCP) Loblolly Seedlings (roughly $3,600 for 18,000 seedlings). Although I haven't seen any independent research, they are marketed as higher yield and faster growth.  However, they are roughly 3 times more expensive than the standard 2nd or 3rd generation pine seedlings (open pollinated). I would appreciate feedback from any growers or planters on whether the additional cost is worth the observed faster growth / yield. The planting site is located in deep East Texas (Livingston area).

Thanks.
Title: Re: MCP Loblolly Pine Seedlings for Deep East Texas Planting Site
Post by: Texas Ranger on June 16, 2012, 03:42:07 PM
Answered PM.
Title: Re: MCP Loblolly Pine Seedlings for Deep East Texas Planting Site
Post by: beenthere on June 16, 2012, 04:39:18 PM
Is the answer a secret?
Title: Re: MCP Loblolly Pine Seedlings for Deep East Texas Planting Site
Post by: Texas Ranger on June 16, 2012, 05:52:26 PM
No, he also asked PM.  Improved seedlings can be problematic at best, it depends on where they come from, who grew them, who plants them, soil type, site treatment, etc. 

I personally don't see the cost worth the return.
Title: Re: MCP Loblolly Pine Seedlings for Deep East Texas Planting Site
Post by: WDH on June 17, 2012, 08:08:53 AM
They should definitely out-perform the regular seedlings in most cases.  However, at three times the cost and the time value of money, you might not see a return on the initial investment.  It all depends on the timber market.  If you had done this very same thing 20 years ago, and you were to sell this timber in the same market as exists today, I doubt that you would see a positive return.  If stumpage prices were on the high end of the cycle, you likely would.

Since there is no price difference when selling logs from regular seedlings and from MCP seedlings, your return is a function of the extra growth.  The higher the stumpage price, the more your extra growth is worth.