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Title: Looking for a Tach need some help.
Post by: JOE.G on July 14, 2012, 10:19:22 PM
I am looking for a Tach to tune my saws and also to be able to use them on my Lawn mowers and other power equipment, SOme of the out door equipment is twin cylinders,can you guys help me out. Thanks

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Title: Re: Looking for a Tach need some help.
Post by: Cut4fun on July 15, 2012, 07:44:17 AM
I keep all the tach info in this thread.  http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/ported-saws/chainsaw-tachometer-choices/

I even used mine to set the idle on my truck.
Title: Re: Looking for a Tach need some help.
Post by: JOE.G on July 15, 2012, 08:00:49 AM
I am looking at maybe getting the Tech Tach or the Fast Tach, any Input on those? I want to be able to use it on all the different equipment around my place.
Title: Re: Looking for a Tach need some help.
Post by: Cut4fun on July 15, 2012, 08:19:00 AM
I like this one.  http://www.amickssuperstore.com/DTI_2_Cycle_Two_Stroke_Tachometer_Tach_p/dti%20tech-tach%20tt-20k%20tach.htm

Then you got guys that like the Tiny for size. Same thing basically just smaller.   http://www.amickssuperstore.com/DTI_2_Cycle_Two_Stroke_Tachometer_Fast_Tach_p/dti%20fast-tach.htm


See they are selling the    OPPAMA PET-1100 Tachometer  maker of the older stihl EDT-5  http://www.amickssuperstore.com/OPPAMA_PET_1100_Tachometer_p/oppama%20pet-1100%20tach.htm  I have this one in stihls name edt-5 and love it and would buy again too.
Title: Re: Looking for a Tach need some help.
Post by: JOE.G on July 15, 2012, 11:05:33 AM
Those should be able to do all of the various equpiment I have from Tractors to Lawn mowers and so on?
Title: Re: Looking for a Tach need some help.
Post by: Cut4fun on July 15, 2012, 11:55:58 AM
 
Quote from: JOE.G on July 15, 2012, 11:05:33 AM
Those should be able to do all of the various equpiment I have from Tractors to Lawn mowers and so on?

This one does for sure  OPPAMA PET-1100 Tachometer  and this ones says 2 and 4 DTI TECH-TACH TT-20K TACH, the Tiny Tach says it does all that TT-20K does.   ;)
Title: Re: Looking for a Tach need some help.
Post by: NCFarmboy on July 16, 2012, 06:19:07 AM
Cut is right on!  These should do what you want.  I have TT DTI-20K $90 or so.  Real happy with it.  IMO is the best buy in a good tach.  Like Cut I have an EDT-5 too.  Like it real well too.  Use whichever one the hand finds.
Shep
Title: Re: Looking for a Tach need some help.
Post by: JOE.G on July 16, 2012, 12:08:31 PM
Well I just ordered the Tech Tach,  Edge and Engine Recommended it over the Fast Tach.
Title: Re: Looking for a Tach need some help.
Post by: NCFarmboy on July 17, 2012, 12:25:37 PM
Good deal.  You will like it.
Shep
Title: Re: Looking for a Tach need some help.
Post by: joe_indi on July 19, 2012, 01:19:34 PM
Digital Tachs are a bit difficult to come by here.
I had a Stihl EDT6 which I dropped and damaged the display.
I had got so used to it with is multi-mode selection and fast refresh rate.
Fortunately I was able to pick up an identical Pulse Tach

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/15459/tach_01.JPG)

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/15459/tach_03.JPG)

I dont care much for the newer Stihl tachs with their slower refresh rates.
But the newer ignitions will be a problem, the 3 pole types.
I just faced that issue for the first time today.
I was trying to adjust the carb of a MS461 using the Pulse.
I found that the rpm displayed above 10000 was not correct.
It showed 1200, 5000, 8000.... all these while the saw was at full revs.
Normally I get accurate readings, but not with the MS461, it has a 3 pole module, I think.
Joe
Title: Re: Looking for a Tach need some help.
Post by: JOE.G on July 19, 2012, 02:51:14 PM
Hoping the Tach I ordered will cover everything I get.
Title: Re: Looking for a Tach need some help.
Post by: Stihlnorm on July 27, 2012, 11:57:55 AM
Quote from: joe_indi on July 19, 2012, 01:19:34 PM
Digital Tachs are a bit difficult to come by here.
I had a Stihl EDT6 which I dropped and damaged the display.
I had got so used to it with is multi-mode selection and fast refresh rate.
Fortunately I was able to pick up an identical Pulse Tach

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/15459/tach_01.JPG)

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/15459/tach_03.JPG)

I dont care much for the newer Stihl tachs with their slower refresh rates.
But the newer ignitions will be a problem, the 3 pole types.
I just faced that issue for the first time today.
I was trying to adjust the carb of a MS461 using the Pulse.
I found that the rpm displayed above 10000 was not correct.
It showed 1200, 5000, 8000.... all these while the saw was at full revs.
Normally I get accurate readings, but not with the MS461, it has a 3 pole module, I think.
Joe

Don't assume the tach is wrong!! the new ignition modules have a very coplex ignition cut out built into them. It preforms a mathmatical caculation and starts skipping firing impulses giving you the crazy read out on the tach. You need to know where the rev limiter cuts in and tune ( I use 200 rpm ) below that number. Old school tuners that continue to lean the saw out for more RPM are going to be very unhappy with the performance of their "hot set up".