I have a good friend that bought a used lt 70, has issues, and as much as I love everyone who post, and try to give some kind of support, I am blown away that a grease gun issue is getting response. Jim, sorry you have issues with a grease gun, but man, give me a break. This may be the straw that breaks the camels back for me. Unless most folks on the saw mill site are all manual users, how could this issue go without some kind of response, other than customsawyers?
No back breaking of Camels, add the link to the thread when posting would help with attention IMO and don't throw that FF hat away yet :D
All I needed, for a good friend, was some input on the up/down speed on the LT-70's My 40 goes 1 1/8 per sec, his is around 5 sec. Customsawyer mention some gas assist shocks, and this makes some sense, but the down feed is the same speed, very slow. you can count the rev's on the shaft by watching the key on the pulley, why? Just trying to help a friend. My wife said to let it go, but this is killing me. I cannot accept this.
I just thought someone might have seen, or experienced this. I Have to figure not. It just blows me away with all the input that comes in on the forum. david
:) Well honestly mine is Hydraulic but my first thoughts are its a electric motor running slow do you know if the motor is dc or ac you mentioned three phase we use a lot of three phase ac motor's at my job and if one phase is not there it will run but slow and sounds like its surging so my first thought's are check the voltage to the motor then check bearings of the motor, does it turn free by hand? then megger the windings of the motor google can explain this. :P
I saw the topic and had nothing to add and didn't figure anything to gain so I didn't pull it up.
There is a lot of the Forum I seldom get around to. I get a lot and contribute some out of the place I do visit.
I can not believe that you don't realize that most of us have used a grease gun, and thus could comment on it, but only a few have any knowledge of an LT-70.
:D and the comment's did roll like dice at a crap shoot ;D
Dave,I understand what your saying.I operated a LT-70 three phase for a couple of years and would say a little prayer every time I turned the key.Many of us don't understand their operation well enough to give advice.For someone who knows WM are the folks to call first.Sometimes you need to change the wording and repost,many of us have a short attention span. Frank C.
I could have jumped in but didn't figure it would do any good as I have never seen a 70 in person. I have used a few grease guns though.
Quote from: bandmiller2 on September 28, 2012, 08:06:40 PM
many of us have a short attention span. Frank C.
What are ya'll talking about? say_what
You guys just blow me away, plus Jeff's forum, I was typing and got the warning on the previous post. I know we all you grease guns, I ran preventive maint. for three years. but this issue is close to home, not forsaking the need for good maintenance, I am just desperate to help a friend, wmz was to come today, not sure if they did. No answerer on the phone. so, My apologizies, just a friend that wants to help a friend. I too have struggled with some cruddy grease guns, as I think most of us have. This issue is dealing with around 50 ths, bd/ft of logs and a mill that can handle the challenge. Just not like it is. I am just reaching out. Like the wife said, I worry too much, I can't help it, My nature, you guys are Like brothers, even though I know none of you. David
hang in there david....i think the problem is that there's just not that many lt70 owners on here. although there would sure like to be ;D
someone will chime in yet...
Needed to think about it for a while..I'm not that familiar with a 70, but here's a thought. If the speed is slow both up and down, it's just about got to be either the motor or accuset if it's so equipped. 12 volt dc motor has 4 brushes. If just one of them is worn out, broke, or stuck, the motor would still run, but half speed. Accuset puts some electronics in the power leads to the motor. Put a test lamp or an old fashioned analog voltmeter across the terminals on the motor while it's running. (fancy digital voltmeter won't work) Anything less than 12 volts points to accuset.
I laid hands on a Brand New LT70 once........ It was a spiritual moment....... Then, the clouds parted, and a BOLT of light came down and a thundering voice from above said:
"Get thy dirty hands off of that fine piece of engineering, for thou are not worthy!!!!"
I humbly toil towards the day when I may be found worthy to utilize the awesome milling power embodied in the Mighty LT70. Until that time, I ply my trade with a lesser mill, true in spirit, and doing my small part for the betterment of trees and mankind. smiley_sun
As a mere mortal, I cannot offer any advice on such an extraordinary implement. Perhaps your friend would find what he seeks most expediently by seeking the counsel of the creators of this wonder. They are headquartered in Indianapolis Indiana.
Humbly yours,
Jack.
Amen!
Sorry I couldn't help, I'm new to WM products, and although I have seen Customsawyer's wonderful LT-70 in action, I know nothing specific to LT-70's, and also I have about the mechanical ability of a bowling ball.
I think I read it, but couldn't offer any help. :-\
I've had a few times when I couldn't get answers to what I was asking on here, but I kept posting on the thread and keeping it fresh with updates until people who could help me took notice.
For problems like that one, though, I have WM's number saved in my phone, and I call (even on my 22-year-old mill) them to ask what could be up with a problem like that. If it's something that's keeping me from milling, and the solution isn't obvious to me, I'll call them and bug them every time. ;)
Hang in there, we'll help you get it figured out.
Why not just call WM? Steve
The head speed on my mill, which is the only one I've ever used, is dependent on how fast I turn the crank.
I've pumped a lot of grease through a grease gun, though. On a drilling rig, if it moves, you grease it. If it is stationary, you paint it. ;D
Chill out, man! As has been mentioned, not many of us have LT70s (I don't) If someone could have added anything that would have helped, they would (and did). This is a very specific setup-LT 70 ac powered, WM will get you pointed in the right direction, I see sparks added some tech info in response already.
I have chilled, and apologized to Jim, just a day that got the best of me, wmz showed up at his mill today and has him going, fast! Sorry bout the spaze, I was needing to know if these ran like this or what, They run fast up and down, and faster through the logs, So, I wish I could drop this post, but like usual, for me a steady diet of size 10 dbl D, david
You're forgiven. By me anyway. ;D
Wow ! Say your prayers......
No problem. I'm glad WM got him up and running ;)
Quote from: drobertson on September 29, 2012, 11:16:07 PM
I have chilled, and apologized to Jim, just a day that got the best of me, wmz showed up at his mill today and has him going, fast! Sorry bout the spaze, I was needing to know if these ran like this or what, They run fast up and down, and faster through the logs, So, I wish I could drop this post, but like usual, for me a steady diet of size 10 dbl D, david
We all make mistakes David, and it want be your last one. :) As far as your 10 dbl D....Salt, pepper and a shake of garlic. Steam for 3 ½ hours. Aint't to bad. I've eaten several. :D
Do you happen to know what was wrong with the sawmill?
Quotewmz showed up at his mill today and has him going, fast!
What was the cause of the problem,and the solution to fix it ?
All I know for now is the original accusset is causing most of the issues, which I suspected to be a problem before I ever saw the mill. He said it was running fast now, but all the sets were erased, so today after church sometime I am going over to reset his patterns and try to continue the training with him. I had no Idea how fast these saws cut till I sawed on it. And to think if it would go up and down fast too? Man almost feel sorry for the tailers. Last word was it is running, and a new set works is on the way,
Quote from: drobertson on September 29, 2012, 11:16:07 PM
I have chilled, and apologized to Jim, just a day that got the best of me, wmz showed up at his mill today and has him going, fast! Sorry bout the spaze, I was needing to know if these ran like this or what, They run fast up and down, and faster through the logs, So, I wish I could drop this post, but like usual, for me a steady diet of size 10 dbl D, david
David,
I've heard an occassional meal of shoe leather is good for the sole...
Herb
Quote from: PC-Urban-Sawyer on September 30, 2012, 11:37:11 AM
Quote from: drobertson on September 29, 2012, 11:16:07 PM
I have chilled, and apologized to Jim, just a day that got the best of me, wmz showed up at his mill today and has him going, fast! Sorry bout the spaze, I was needing to know if these ran like this or what, They run fast up and down, and faster through the logs, So, I wish I could drop this post, but like usual, for me a steady diet of size 10 dbl D, david
David,
I've heard an occassional meal of shoe leather is good for the sole...
Herb
You're killing me Herb! smiley_guitarist smiley_trap_drummer
Quote from: PC-Urban-Sawyer on September 30, 2012, 11:37:11 AM
Quote from: drobertson on September 29, 2012, 11:16:07 PM
I have chilled, and apologized to Jim, just a day that got the best of me, wmz showed up at his mill today and has him going, fast! Sorry bout the spaze, I was needing to know if these ran like this or what, They run fast up and down, and faster through the logs, So, I wish I could drop this post, but like usual, for me a steady diet of size 10 dbl D, david
David,
I've heard an occassional meal of shoe leather is good for the sole...
Herb
that one gave me a good laugh......
My fondest dream is that I could answer your question.... finances won't allow an LT-70.
Quote from: POSTONLT40HD on September 30, 2012, 12:41:31 PM
Quote from: PC-Urban-Sawyer on September 30, 2012, 11:37:11 AM
Quote from: drobertson on September 29, 2012, 11:16:07 PM
I have chilled, and apologized to Jim, just a day that got the best of me, wmz showed up at his mill today and has him going, fast! Sorry bout the spaze, I was needing to know if these ran like this or what, They run fast up and down, and faster through the logs, So, I wish I could drop this post, but like usual, for me a steady diet of size 10 dbl D, david
David,
I've heard an occassional meal of shoe leather is good for the sole...
Herb
You're killing me Herb! smiley_guitarist smiley_trap_drummer
Only cause we like ya, David.
Herb
Added: We're getting too many David's on here, hard to keep track of who you're talking to/about... Oh, well. We like them all so I recon it don't really matter.
Herb
The excitment of a new toy can send a body into a frenzy, even if it belongs to a friend! I'm glad to know that the situation is fixed and would love to see some pics(may be the closest I ever get to a 70) Now back to wrestling with my grease gun. Brian
Quote from: taylorsmissbeehaven on October 03, 2012, 01:48:40 PM
Now back to wrestling with my grease gun. Brian
Be careful, I read somewhere that they are a very dangerous tool......
Jim Rogers
:D :D :D :D You guys are just lucky this forum doesn't deal with grain combines.... ;D
Go ahead, if we don't know anything about them, what the heck? We will tell you how to load the grease gun for maintenance. :D :D
Quote from: POSTONLT40HD on September 30, 2012, 04:44:24 AM
We all make mistakes David, and it want be your last one. :) As far as your 10 dbl D....Salt, pepper and a shake of garlic. Steam for 3 ½ hours. Aint't to bad. I've eaten several. :D
Yep... in the post above, want should be won't!
;D
And with this post I went from three trees to four! I am now a "senior" member!
Quote from: sandhills on October 03, 2012, 02:05:21 PM
:D :D :D :D You guys are just lucky this forum doesn't deal with grain combines.... ;D
Ain't dat the truht! Our first combine was an A-C "66" All-Crop, bought new in the '50s; my dad said the the "66" stood for the number of grease zerks (we called 'em alemites) on it. Same for the old 2-row A-C silage cutters from the same era; had to be a contortionist to grease either one of them.
I greased both my tractors today with trepidation, hoping that the grease would hold out and I would not have to face the ordeal of trying to change out the grease tube :).
I think that it would be better to try and troubleshoot a LT70 than change out a grease tube after reading the Grease Thread :D.
I hope this post isn't over, I've had a ball reading it! :P
I all most took a picture of a cheap grease gun next to a 35 year old one the cheap one lasted ... err it didn't :D LOL
Buy the lincoln grease gun IMO 8)