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Title: Visit to the Cook sawmill plant
Post by: leroy in kansas on October 06, 2012, 11:00:14 PM
I recently had the oppertunity to visit the Cook mfg plant in Newton AL. I had a very pleasent experience there. Got to see the Cats Claw sharpner and double tooth setter in action. They currently have a special on for these 2 items so I pulled the trigger and came home with the set. I haven't gotten the sharpner set up yet. Hope to have time next week.

These folks are as friendly as they come. Even got a follow up call checking to make sure I got home safely and if I had any questions. If your looking for sharpening equipment I'm of the opinion that this should be a consideration.

Leroy in Kansas.
Title: Re: Visit to the Cook sawmill plant
Post by: customdave on October 06, 2012, 11:42:53 PM
Awesome!!!, I'm jealous :-\, I do have the cat claw sharpner& their duel tooth setter & their band Roller, I know you will be happy with their machines, & yes very nice people to deal with!!!


                    Dave
Title: Re: Visit to the Cook sawmill plant
Post by: vfauto on October 07, 2012, 07:38:51 AM
What is and what does a band roller do.I have looked on Cook's site and cannot find it. Can you also post pictures of the roller?
Thanks Frank
Quote from: customdave on October 06, 2012, 11:42:53 PM
Awesome!!!, I'm jealous :-\, I do have the cat claw sharpner& their duel tooth setter & their band Roller, I know you will be happy with their machines, & yes very nice people to deal with!!!


                    Dave
Title: Re: Visit to the Cook sawmill plant
Post by: Kansas on October 07, 2012, 07:56:58 AM
Leroy, we let our old Cooks  sharpener/ Suffolk setter go when we sold the old Super 40, and bought new from Cooks. We have a retired machinist who comes in a couple times a week to sharpen blades. It took him a bit to get used to it, but now has both running like the cat's meow. The sharpener wasn't a problem; it was more getting used to the setter. If you have trouble, feel free to come up and go over things with him.
Title: Re: Visit to the Cook sawmill plant
Post by: leroy in kansas on October 07, 2012, 12:02:21 PM
Quote from: Kansas on October 07, 2012, 07:56:58 AM
Leroy, we let our old Cooks  sharpener/ Suffolk setter go when we sold the old Super 40, and bought new from Cooks. We have a retired machinist who comes in a couple times a week to sharpen blades. It took him a bit to get used to it, but now has both running like the cat's meow. The sharpener wasn't a problem; it was more getting used to the setter. If you have trouble, feel free to come up and go over things with him.

Thanks Steve, I may have to take you up on that. I did get a pretty complete instruction session with Sean while we were there, so will give it a try first.
Title: Re: Visit to the Cook sawmill plant
Post by: grweldon on October 07, 2012, 02:33:28 PM
I too have visited the Cook's plant.  As you say, they don't get much friendlier than that!  Great bunch of folks...
Title: Re: Visit to the Cook sawmill plant
Post by: kelLOGg on October 07, 2012, 06:40:25 PM
I bought my mill new from Cook but have never visited the plant. Still plan to some day. And I second the request for pics of the band roller, hint, hint, customdave. Can't afford a new one but I'm convinced of the need for flat bands.
Bob
Title: Re: Visit to the Cook sawmill plant
Post by: customsawyer on October 07, 2012, 07:33:56 PM
Here is a pic of my band roller.


 (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11861/010.JPG)

I don't roll all of my blades but if one starts to give me trouble I will roll it.
Title: Re: Visit to the Cook sawmill plant
Post by: vfauto on October 08, 2012, 07:12:46 AM
What is the purpose of rolling blades and what does it mean?
Quote from: customsawyer on October 07, 2012, 07:33:56 PM
Here is a pic of my band roller.


 (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11861/010.JPG)

I don't roll all of my blades but if one starts to give me trouble I will roll it.
Title: Re: Visit to the Cook sawmill plant
Post by: Jemclimber on October 08, 2012, 07:38:32 AM
The purpose????? 

Blades going around a crowned wheel can get a cup induced in the width of the blade causing it to not cut optimally. A roller removes this and makes the blade flat again.  Customsawyer may be able to explain it better.
Title: Re: Visit to the Cook sawmill plant
Post by: vfauto on October 08, 2012, 08:31:48 AM
Dose a roller take out set ?
Quote from: customsawyer on October 07, 2012, 07:33:56 PM
Here is a pic of my band roller.


 (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11861/010.JPG)

I don't roll all of my blades but if one starts to give me trouble I will roll it.
Title: Re: Visit to the Cook sawmill plant
Post by: Magicman on October 08, 2012, 10:43:53 AM
The roller would only cover the band itself.  Not the teeth.
Title: Re: Visit to the Cook sawmill plant
Post by: kelLOGg on October 08, 2012, 06:30:44 PM
Quote from: Jemclimber on October 08, 2012, 07:38:32 AM
The purpose????? 

Blades going around a crowned wheel can get a cup induced in the width of the blade causing it to not cut optimally. A roller removes this and makes the blade flat again.  Customsawyer may be able to explain it better.

The odd thing is that the cup is in the opposite direction to the crown. (I think). Is that right CustomSawyer?

Bob
Title: Re: Visit to the Cook sawmill plant
Post by: kelLOGg on October 08, 2012, 06:51:47 PM
...and I'm not sure it is limited to crowned wheels. I googled 'anticlastic curvature' and quickly got over my head. I have never had a course in solid mechanics. dense stuff.

Bob
Title: Re: Visit to the Cook sawmill plant
Post by: Dan Sawyer on October 10, 2012, 12:47:58 PM
that is correct, after the band goes round the wheels over and over, it develops convexity which is opposite of what you may think - opposite direction of the crown / wheel direction.  This causes the blade to not cut straight, even if it is sharp.  A straight band is essential to successful sawing and rolling it will help achieve this. 
Title: Re: Visit to the Cook sawmill plant
Post by: Kansas on October 10, 2012, 02:37:22 PM
When I bought a Cooks sharpener and setter recently, when we let our old ones go with the old mill, I asked them about the band roller. It just seemed to me they weren't that interested in it anymore. I know at one time that had a special that included that in the sharpener/setter combo. Not anymore. Maybe it was just me, or the person I talked to, but they made no effort to sell it.