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Title: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Jeff on March 20, 2004, 04:05:42 PM
 Be the first to correctly Identify and name this object, its use, and job title of the guy that would have used it to win a pair of FF hats.

It was used in logging.

(https://forestryforum.com/images/04_01_03/whatzit_01.jpg)
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Furby on March 20, 2004, 05:16:48 PM
Well...................I don't have a clue!  :-/




But................I like the looks of that box in the background.  ;D
And what's up with the paper saw blades ??? I don't think you'll get to many bd ft out of them.  ::) ;D
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Fla._Deadheader on March 20, 2004, 05:19:57 PM
I was thinkin a saw vise, for holding saw blades while ya sharpen them. No idee what the guys name was, though ::) ::) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: chet on March 20, 2004, 05:31:50 PM
I tink his name was Joe.  :D
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: chet on March 20, 2004, 05:36:00 PM
I got it!
It was a paper weight used to keep dem paper saw blades from warping.  ;D
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Furby on March 20, 2004, 05:46:48 PM
 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
That's a GOOD one!!!!!
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: RMay on March 20, 2004, 06:21:02 PM
cross-cut saw vise for filing a saw ::) maybe
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: etat on March 20, 2004, 06:32:15 PM
filing an ax, guage or holder of some kind?
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Jeff on March 20, 2004, 06:35:20 PM
You fellers are really really cold.
(https://forestryforum.com/smile/coldboy.gif)
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: VA-Sawyer on March 20, 2004, 06:35:29 PM
Is there two angled plates on the inside, or just the one we can see ?
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Fla._Deadheader on March 20, 2004, 06:38:15 PM
  Paul Bunyon's shoe stretcher ??? ???
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Jeff on March 20, 2004, 06:41:08 PM
hint if you want to call it that. its 5 1/2 inches tall.
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: etat on March 20, 2004, 06:45:53 PM
honing stone holder?  the cook?
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: chet on March 20, 2004, 06:52:42 PM
I tink we need a better hint.   :-/
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: wiam on March 20, 2004, 07:05:48 PM
Is it for making the boy horse an it horse?
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Stump Jumper on March 20, 2004, 07:07:43 PM
 :o :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: etat on March 20, 2004, 07:14:34 PM
stick shift for the horses ear :) :) :)
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Mark M on March 20, 2004, 08:20:06 PM
That reminds me of a thing my dad used to use to hold doors on edge while he planed (plained?) them to fit. It was shaped different on the bottom though.
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Jeff on March 20, 2004, 08:25:25 PM
No horses involved with this logging tool.  Go west young man...
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Swede on March 20, 2004, 08:25:38 PM
Easy! It´s an "adjustable inch"!  

When you sell lumber you make the space 22,7mm. with the nuts and when you buy you make the inch up to 28,44 mm. for checking thickess.

Swede.
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Jeff on March 20, 2004, 08:31:56 PM
HEY! Thats a really good guess. But yer WRONG! :D
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Bro. Noble on March 20, 2004, 08:35:56 PM
It's a Horace Greeley ;D
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Jeff on March 20, 2004, 08:39:33 PM
THis has nothing to do with the whatzit, its just a picture of the boxes in the background that Furby commented on. I use them to keep C.D.'s in.
(https://forestryforum.com/images/04_01_03/axbox.jpg)
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Mark M on March 20, 2004, 08:39:44 PM
That's what I was thinkin' Noble. Maybe it's a nutcracker?
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Jeff on March 20, 2004, 08:41:28 PM
yer just whistling Dixie now...
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Bro. Noble on March 20, 2004, 09:01:44 PM
Jeeze Jeff,  your clues are tough.

That's the CD holder that Horace Greeley used to hold his music collection of tunes from the old south---------What's that got to do with logging?
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Duane_Moore on March 20, 2004, 09:10:22 PM
 ???A Rafter Jig?  Duh---Duane
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: etat on March 20, 2004, 09:47:11 PM
Another wild guess, used to guage or in replacing the teeth in a circle saw?
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: chet on March 21, 2004, 05:12:40 AM
Is the bottom portion cut off from something, or is that the complete item?
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Norm on March 21, 2004, 05:21:39 AM
Geez I can't believe nobody's got this yet. Those are plainly earmuffs for those west coast fellers. ;D
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: chet on March 21, 2004, 05:39:39 AM
Can I make a wild a** guess as to who used it?  A teamster.
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: shopteacher on March 21, 2004, 05:43:23 AM
Paul Bunyons tweezers for pulling those big spilters or Babe the Blue Ox nose hair. :D
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: shopteacher on March 21, 2004, 05:46:48 AM
Maybe the rear sights of the portable log saw you bought jeff?
Got to line that thing up and on target before letting her go.
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Jeff on March 21, 2004, 06:55:51 AM
Still all nopes.  Pumping Paul could help ya. Too bad he won't  ;D
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: redpowerd on March 21, 2004, 07:20:07 AM
whatever it is, its doing an excellent job of driving me nuts!

looks like it may have been used on the top of a steel gin pole?
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Kevin_H. on March 21, 2004, 07:26:09 AM
QuoteThat's what I was thinkin' Noble. Maybe it's a nutcracker?


Only if you use it wrong... ;D  OOOWWW!!

otherwise I dont have a clue.
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Jeff on March 21, 2004, 07:34:36 AM
A visual clue...

(https://forestryforum.com/images/04_01_03/whatzit_03.jpg)
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: shopteacher on March 21, 2004, 07:50:30 AM
I got it now, that's the handbrake used by the brakeman on the sawmill. He'd reach out and grab the blade with that thing to bring it to a stop.

Do I wins?
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Jeff on March 21, 2004, 08:03:15 AM
Now I know who's nuts. :D You betcha brakeman. You win da 3 fingers freddy award. :D
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Paul_H on March 21, 2004, 08:20:33 AM
My older brother Don might know what it is.He was a bit of a punk when he was a kid but only for a while.

He still  has all of his fingers,but there was one in particular that he must of been proud of,cause he used to show it to me whenever we got our signals crossed :-/ ::)

Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: shopteacher on March 21, 2004, 08:21:37 AM
Never said it was a good job. :o  Don't think I ever met 3 finger Freddy, is he a forum member? ;D
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Jeff on March 21, 2004, 08:23:42 AM
Yea, but he never posts. Has trouble typing.
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Paul_H on March 21, 2004, 08:29:13 AM
Dere is a cloo at da bottom of pagetoo :P
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: shopteacher on March 21, 2004, 08:30:20 AM
Shoot then, Freddy should learn shorthand.
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: AtLast on March 21, 2004, 08:44:39 AM
Its a jig for cutting 22.5 angles for dem fancy logging camp buildins...da carpenter used um...

oh gezzz...the visual clue totally caught me off guard...the oridgionl pic made it look big....now its in Jeffs hands and looks like a tool to set and calibrate set .

I know...its a musical insterment...sorta like dem spoons..

WAIT WAIT...its fer puttin the proper angle on an axe???


ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Jeff on March 21, 2004, 08:46:49 AM
These are some electrifying answers. Atlast, finally, somebody got it WRONGER. :D  (is wronger a word?) ;D
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: AtLast on March 21, 2004, 08:50:46 AM
Jeff,
I think its wrongerer?...wrongest? mostly wrong? wrongest of the wrong?
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Jeff on March 21, 2004, 08:51:44 AM
I wouldn't say wrongest of the wrong, it aint over yet.
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Minnesota_boy on March 21, 2004, 08:51:45 AM
Shopteacher,
Freddy already has short hands.  He types with his nose.  He can't see the keyboard from that close up.  That's why he has so many words misspelled.  :o :D
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Fla._Deadheader on March 21, 2004, 08:59:41 AM
Ed says Grandad had one. Said it was for holding more than 1 set of check lines, for more than 1 pair of horses, mules, oxen, tractors??, for skidding or pulling a wagon, so one set of lines didn't slip through yer hands. ;D ;D

  Ed says to send the hats to my address.  ;D ;D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: woodmills1 on March 21, 2004, 09:11:17 AM
Ok I think maybe it is some kind of toothsetter?
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Paul_H on March 21, 2004, 09:12:15 AM
Tell Ed not to hold his hand over his mule waiting for the hats :D

Was a good guess though
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Stump Jumper on March 21, 2004, 09:56:35 AM
contact switch for dynamiting . for breaking up log jams .a river rat? or for removong tree stumps. called gopherman
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: etat on March 21, 2004, 10:00:49 AM
It's a hand exerciser, for when the loggers got board!

I think stump_jumper is on the right track, some kind of selenoid, only thing I can think of that'd explain the offset wingnuts.
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: sawhead on March 21, 2004, 10:01:12 AM
toothsetter for a crosscut saw ?
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Den Socling on March 21, 2004, 10:09:42 AM
I'm pretty sure it's a switch. Something for signaling?
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Jeff on March 21, 2004, 10:18:03 AM
I feel a thaw
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Fla._Deadheader on March 21, 2004, 10:25:57 AM
Homemade Remote Control, for winchin or sumpin???
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: sawhead on March 21, 2004, 10:27:14 AM
contact for the whistle used by the whistlepunk on a highlead rig
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Fla._Deadheader on March 21, 2004, 10:30:36 AM
 ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Paul_H on March 21, 2004, 10:39:25 AM
sawhead,

You Aced it! 8)
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Fla._Deadheader on March 21, 2004, 10:43:31 AM
Well, he had to use a foreign language to 'splain it ::) ::) ::) ;D
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Paul_H on March 21, 2004, 10:45:53 AM
The Punk was either a green kid or an oldtimer that took the job of punking whistles.He packed a coil of two strand wire from the yarder out to the bush where he was close enough to the crew to see and hear them.

They would yell to the punk what they needed and he wouold squeeze the "bug"(that Jeff has) and it would either honk a horn,or if they had air,it would activate a selinoid to blow the air horn.
My brother punked for a summer back in 1974.That was the last year my dad used the whistle wire.After that he had the radio controled "Bugs" that are still used today.

Here are some signals that I copied from a manual.Our signals were slightly different, eg- if we wanted the mainline or haulback to go ahead slow(easy) there would be a short whistle followed by 3 shorts for mainlaine, and 2 shorts and another 2 shorts for haulback.

high lead logging whistle signals - Means longer spacing between signals.
 
1 short
 Stop all lines.
 
3 short-3 short
 Ahead slow on mainline.
 
3 short
 Ahead on mainline.
 
2 short
 Ahead on haulback.
 
2 short-2 short
 Ahead slow on haulback.
 
3 short-1 short
 Ahead on strawline.
 
3 short-1 short-3 short
 Ahead slow on strawline.
 
4 short or more
 Slack mainline.
 
2 short-4 short
 Slack haulback.
 
3 short-1 short-4 short
 Slack strawline.
 
3 short-2 short
 Standing tight line.
 
1 short-1 short
 Tight line while lines are running, or break if running tight.
 
3 short
 When rigging is in: Strawline back on haulback.
 
3 short / plus "X" number of shorts
 When rigging is in: Indicates number of sections of strawline back on rigging.
 
3 short-1 short-2 short
 Strawline back on rigging.
 
1 short
 When rigging is in: Chaser inspect and repair rigging.
 
2 short
 When rigging is in: No chokers back.
 
2 short-1 short / plus "X" number of shorts
 Number of chokers back.
 
2 short-4 short
 When rigging is in: Slack haulback-hold all lines until 2 short blown.
 
3 medium
 Hooker.
 
3 medium-4 short
 

Hooker and crew.



 
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: etat on March 21, 2004, 11:06:03 AM
I'm with Fla on this one, Dang trick question!!!! :) :) :)
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: shopteacher on March 21, 2004, 11:12:41 AM
Minnesota Boy: Get me Freddy's address. I'm going to whittle him one of them forehead sticks to type with.
  
  
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Stump Jumper on March 21, 2004, 11:21:11 AM
 8) very interesting  8) congrats sawhead.
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Paul_H on March 21, 2004, 11:24:52 AM
Whiste Punk Pete by Buzz Martin

Whistle Punk Pete,he stood only five feet
He wasn't gonna get_any bigger
but his main ambition was to hold the position
of Hooktender and Headrigger
But everybody knew that unless he grew
he wasn't ever gonna make it
it takes a pretty big man,that's an all around man
there isn't any way you can fake it

You put a block and a strap on ta little Pete's back
he'd head in the wrooong direction
Makin new layouts and pullin haywire
he couldn't even pull one section
But he could climb alright,didn't mind the height
but when he got to the top,Oh golly
he was too small to tackle a guyline shackle
he couldn't even hook up a molly

Well he was runnin around with a gal downtown
she was fat,but kinda pretty
and we heard one day that they ran away
got married in a nearby city
well he was happy with his wife,she was the love of his life
she had such a sweet dis-position
but Whistle Punk Pete didn't know at the time
she'd help him realize his ambition

Cause his little wife Myrtle wore a full length girdle
and it had twenty three hooks and eyes
it took a full half hour to hook her up every morning
much to little Pete's surprize
he was hookin and a thinkin,his eyes began to blinkin
he jumped up and let out a squall
he said Myrtle holy cow,if the crew could see me now
I'm a Hooktender after all!


Link to Buzz Martin (http://www.oregongreengold.com/SOUNDS/BuzzMartin/buzzbio.html)

I had one of his records several years ago,and never knew until this morning that he passed away 21 years ago :'(

I just had hoped that he was enjoying retirement :-/
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Jeff on March 21, 2004, 11:55:11 AM
Way ta go sawhead! I figured one of the guys out in the Northwest would eventually get it. O.K., now ya gotta Tell us how you came up with the answer.

Send me your name and mailing address. You get a good hat for Sundays and one of those misfit hats for yer everyday sawhead.  :)

DEN! You get honorable mention. You were right there but not quite.
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: redpowerd on March 21, 2004, 12:25:46 PM
thats great stuff! 8)
good call, sawhead, congrats.

great piece of history, there.
why was it called 'punking'?
is that the sound of a quick blip of the whistle?
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Paul_H on March 21, 2004, 12:54:40 PM
redpowerd,
I don't know what the punk part of the name came from,unless it just means a "kid"
The whistle part comes from the days of steam donkeys when the whistle punk strung a jerk wire out to the bush and would pull or "jerk" (I don't like where this is heading) the line  that would in turn pull the lever on the whistle back at the donkey.

That was too close :)
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Den Socling on March 21, 2004, 01:18:19 PM
Jeff,

I knew it wasn't a key for Morse code  :D but I have to admit that 'bug for a whistlepunk' wasn't on the tip of my tongue.  :)

Den
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Jeff on March 21, 2004, 01:26:59 PM
"The hooker in the brush is calling the shots, but the whistle punk is making the whoo-hoop. He had carried a thousand feet of 8-gauge telephone wire out into the brush, the working area for yarding logs to the landing. There can be no kinks and no hang ups, and it must be tight at all times. The other end is tied to the steam whistle on Old Rosie, and the whistles tell the donkey puncher what is needed. The hooker tells the whistle punk the exact signal to make. If he doesn't, someone gets hurt or killed."
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Paul_H on March 21, 2004, 01:32:41 PM
Jeff,
where did you find that info?It's easier to understand and far more clear that my explanation.

If ever you get a chance to buy this book,grab it!!
Now You're Logging (http://www.harbourpublishing.com/index.php?s=book&id=239)

I can't say enough about this classic.It is set in the dirty thirties in a coastal logging camp and the detail and practical information about highlead logging is incredible.It was written and illustrated by Bus Griffith and is in the form of a comic book.

Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Jeff on March 21, 2004, 01:34:21 PM
A very fine website. I am there reading now. Good stuff.

http://www.sweet-home.or.us/history/index.htm
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: sawhead on March 21, 2004, 01:53:46 PM
Thanks y'all for the congrats. Actually jeff a western guy did get it  ;D I was orignally from Oregon now in ark. Paul H gave it away with his clue on page 2 so put 2and2 together and =NEW HAT 8) 8)And by the way used to saw on a cedar mill not far from sweet home where that link is about
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Frank_Pender on March 21, 2004, 08:32:31 PM
Gee whizz, i am only a bridesmaide again.  I knew right away what it was.  I just never come to the contests cuz I never know until someone guess correctly.   I would have never come to this site had Paul not suggested that I do so.   But, alas, it was toooo late in the evening when I came on line. :'(
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Mark M on March 22, 2004, 12:08:36 PM
Here all along I thought it was a grappletubefistermount!
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Swede on March 22, 2004, 12:52:51 PM
Congratulation sawhead! "The winner takes it all....."  :)


But I still think that my guess was more usefull (^__^)

Swede.
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Furby on March 22, 2004, 01:27:30 PM
About all I can add is that those are some cool boxes!  ;D


Wait a minute..............Jeff you never told us what the deal is with the paper saws ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: ADfields on March 22, 2004, 05:54:34 PM
I'm guessing they are for the pig roast.
Andy
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Jeff on March 22, 2004, 06:23:56 PM
The Paper saws are really really really important.

I doodle on them.
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Duane_Moore on March 22, 2004, 09:04:40 PM
 :PJeff, was cleaning out my old pack panards, and found my old draw knife, it says  J.S. CANTELO on the blade, fold up handles.  Dec, 18, 1883, all I can find on it, want it?  Its yours, E-Mail me your P.O. Box.  Duh---Duane
Title: Re: Whatzit contest!
Post by: Furby on March 23, 2004, 02:14:04 PM
 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D @ Jeff!