A while back I made a post seeking some 43' logs for a timberframe project that I'm milling. Fortunately, some logs were sourced nearby, and although I'm waiting for engineering to be completed on some of the smaller beams, I recently started the milling process on the largest ones.
The focal point of the timberframe will be a pair of finished beams measuring 12" x 16" x 42'. There is a lot of log handling involved, as each log has to be turned multiple times in order to properly mill it, and the bunks have to be readjusted with each turning.
The job started at a concentration yard by reviewing a gorgeous pair of red oak logs and subsequently having them loaded on my trailer. They are each 43' long, with small end diameters of 24" and 26" respectively.
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After unloading them at the farm, we used a crane to load them into the bunks and then laid out the beam profile.
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Milling then commenced on the first face:
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First face is complete (and inspected by Shea, our "log dog").
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After the first face was milled, we used a crane to remove the log back out of the bunks, then used a backhoe to align it for the second face, readjusted the bunks and then set it back in and started milling face 2:
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After completing the milling on each face, that face was soaked with a 15% TimBor solution to help alleviate any pests in the finished product (since they sure won't be going into one of my kilns!):
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The next step is to mill the first two faces on the second log in a similar manner. After that we will adjust the bunks to be perfectly flat relative to the sawmill and mill the second two faces on each log.
Working with long, large logs is very different than typical 8' - 12' logs, not only because of the mass involved but also because every step must be well thought through in advance and executed without any mistakes (so nobody gets hurt and also I sure don't want to have to "eat" one of these expensive logs due to a mistake!). Working through any tension present in the logs is also a challenge; additional steps are required to mill oversize, with multiple log turns and milling some of the faces more than once to get down to a final dimension that provides for equalization of any tension present in the logs that is revealed during the milling process.
The log weights are significant (over 12,000 lbs each), and extra caution has to be used when handling and moving them around with the crane. I have a 6' Logrite cant hook, and these guys just laughed at it! All handling requires heavy equipment for every step, and precision handling to set them up just so. Because the beams are oak and will be left rough sawn, we also have to prevent contact with steel forks, chokers, etc to the freshly sawn surfaces.
More to come....
Scott
Holy bahdunkadunk! That's an impressive saw job. What would that beam retail for in your area? I never would be able to do that cutting mainly because you are log turning with a crane ;-)
THat right there is just AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DanG!
Beautiful!!!! 8)
Very nice work! Them are some BEAMS there! would hate to get one of them stuck in my eye ;)!!
big stuff!
the pucker factor is definitely up on that job I bet
Awesome Scott. :)
Awesome!
Not sure what to think, wish I was there helping
or
man, glad I missed that
(Scott's brother)
Wow! That's impressive. Very impressive.
I can't be sure but I don't think that beast would fit on my carriage :o
Very nice work!
-lee
Great job there Scott!
Nice sequential pictures too.
As Morrie Brickman usta say, (under different circumstances) "Hoo-Boy".
Love those jobs, nice work area, Who's crane ??? :)
Great Thread!
Thanks for sharing it. :)
Quote from: kilgrosh on November 21, 2012, 12:23:02 PM
Holy bahdunkadunk! That's an impressive saw job. What would that beam retail for in your area? I never would be able to do that cutting mainly because you are log turning with a crane ;-)
I honestly don't know; they were part of a package for the entire frame and decking.
Quote from: rockingjl on November 21, 2012, 02:31:48 PM
Awesome!
Not sure what to think, wish I was there helping
or
man, glad I missed that
(Scott's brother)
Aw Jeff, you know that you wish that you were here helping! I'd even promise not to work you more than a half day each day!
Quote from: isawlogs on November 21, 2012, 05:56:18 PM
Love those jobs, nice work area, Who's crane ??? :)
Marcel, it's great to see you posting!
The crane belongs to my neighbor - a working railroad museum. I loan them my backhoe, grader, dozer and dumptruck when needed, and they let me use their crane. It's a great relationship for both of us. Thus far I haven't figured out a way to "need" to "borrow" one of their locomotives, but I'm working on it! :D
Awesome job I love this stuff :)
Quote from: scsmith42 on November 21, 2012, 07:19:39 PM
[ Thus far I haven't figured out a way to "need" to "borrow" one of their locomotives, but I'm working on it! :D
I'll get cogitating some on that and maybe help you out with that, DanG is quite good at that cogitating thing too. Might fire him off an IM and might be able to get his gears a grindin' also on this here dilema.
That was a well thought out job. I've no experience with a Lucas mill. It has to be a painstaking process to get the runners the log lies on level and solid enough for good sawing.
Those timber look great! 8) I know the feeling of not messing one up, I've cut 17 timbers over 42' since last summer. Now, I just have to cut the joinery in them all.
That picture taken from on top of the roof is a good shot. Really shows how long that beam is.
Holy mackeral !! I only see 2 guys in the pics, where is the other 2 guys for packin slabs away ! , neat pics & awsome job....
Dave
Absolutly Awesome I know now what I want for Christmas!
If you want a "need" to borrow a locomotive I think I'd just show'em the timbers you cut ;D. Very nice work!
Good job there Scott. The thing about cutting big and long timbers is that you don't need any sleep aid medicine when you get home at night. ;D
Gday
Scott those are some Awesome looking beams Mate :) ;) ;D ;D ;D 8) 8) i also bet the rest of the cut list seemed pretty easy too mate ;)
Do you have a concrete slab under your mill as when I use to do them at one place on the lucas we use to do them on a concrete slab in the mill yard ;) sure beats readjusting as i skimmed the tops of the bearers level with eachover it sure beat shimming and packing to square them up ;)
Kilgrosh Im not sure about the States but here in the land of OZ your looking down the barrel at about $5000 grand plus a stick for Premium Grade Timbers like that because they are not a Stock Item Mate ;)
Regards Chris
That is simply incredible! Those are very prime logs. Wow!
Very impressive but I'm sure glad you don't live too close to me!! :D
On 2nd thought you do have some cool toys. :)
Awsome job Scott, nice photo's too.
Kevin
Wow, I had no idea oak grew so tall and so straight. What a project. Thanks for sharing.
Dakota
Quote from: scsmith42 on November 21, 2012, 07:17:11 PM
Quote from: rockingjl on November 21, 2012, 02:31:48 PM
Awesome!
Not sure what to think, wish I was there helping
or
man, glad I missed that
(Scott's brother)
Aw Jeff, you know that you wish that you were here helping! I'd even promise not to work you more than a half day each day!
Do I get to pick which 12 hour half day we work?
WOW smiley_eek_dropjaw Nice work!!!
Real professional work by a real professional!!!!
PC
this is a bonifide holy cow! without a doubt, pucker factor in full affect! Thanks for sharing.
I thought the half day was 12 hours also :) Very nice work! I'm impressed with the set up. Need any fancy ironwork to go in that structure? To get back on the point is that a 10 inch mill or an 8? Amazing that you did it all without an "oops".
What's the big deal? Can't you just buy beams like that at Home Depot? ;D. Impressive work for sure.
Nice logs!!! Nice milling!!
Ain't seen no oaks like that around here
All - thanks for the kind words.
The off-bearing wasn't too bad, as this same order has a lot of 4/4 x 8" x 8' - 12' decking boards. We're using a cordless skillsaw to end cut the boards while still in the log, so as I'm milling we're able to recover the outer wood to use as the decking (and since it's coming off in 8' - 12' lengths the offbearing isn't too bad).
Jake, you are so right.... I figured that if anybody could identify with this project, it would be you (and now it appears Dave as well).
Chris, no concrete yet, but I'm thinking about pouring either a pad or a couple of long foundations with some steel embedded in them for track guides. I always sweat damaging my aluminum tracks when I'm loading the smaller logs.
Mark - not sure about the iron work, but I can pass along a contact name / email if you want to pursue. The mill is a 10" WPF (wish that they made a 12....), and I'm not done with the beams yet so I'm still sweating the potential for an "oops"....
Norm, can you imagine the trouble fun that we'd experience if we lived near one another?! ;D
Jeff, sure you can pick which "half day" shift that you want to work! When shall I expect you?! ;D
Yeah, the long ones are fun, especially if they are longer than the mill. :D
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It becomes very obvious that the further you get into sawmilling, the further you get into material handling equipment. Regards, Clark
Quote from: Meadows Miller on November 22, 2012, 06:33:43 AM
Kilgrosh Im not sure about the States but here in the land of OZ your looking down the barrel at about $5000 grand plus a stick for Premium Grade Timbers like that because they are not a Stock Item Mate ;)
Regards Chris
5 Gs?! I need to rethink my plan on only doing short lumber! :D :D
I have heard about cutting longer than your mill. How is that done ?
Scott, You're way out of my leage Brother!! I could learn a lot from you.
Scott that looks like a great project to take on, thanks for the pics,
Quote from: Solomon on November 23, 2012, 02:23:14 PM
I have heard about cutting longer than your mill. How is that done ?
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I had a job doing 200 DF beams too long for the mill. I was just cleaning the beams, all 4 sides. We would cut and turn all 4 sides. Then we push the beam down the mill and then cut and turn the 4 sides on the last 4 feet of beam, the owner did not want to wait for an extension to be ordered. Eventually we ordered the extension. The job of cleaning the hardware was taking so long, we eventually were able to order the extension for the last 100 beams.
sorry about posting in your post
Quote from: Dave Shepard on November 22, 2012, 06:52:42 PM
Yeah, the long ones are fun, especially if they are longer than the mill. :D
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Dave, that's a pretty long log on your mill! How do you turn the long ones (as well as handling them)?
Quote from: sealark37 on November 22, 2012, 08:48:54 PM
It becomes very obvious that the further you get into sawmilling, the further you get into material handling equipment. Regards, Clark
Yup.
I used a Lull 644 telescoping boom forklift. We also have had a Samsung SL 150 loader. That log is 47' and change. I lift up the end and block it level to start the cut. I have to saw most of the way and slide it the last couple of feet to finish. Those long logs took three of us about 3 or 4 hours to cut the timber and edge and stack the lumber. This year, only one of the logs was over 45', the rest were 42'.
I don't have a pic of the Lull, but I do have this one of the loader and the butt of one of the 47's. 36" after I whittled the flare off.
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That is a tiny little chainsaw that you have there compared to that log :D.
It's a Husky 66 with a 32" bar. Pulls it pretty well. That is the most reliable saw I've ever owned. I think it's spent more time in the back of a truck than it has under cover in the last 14 years. All I've ever done to it was replace a broken rubber mount and bars and chains. Had to use the 66 as I blew up the 394 doing the same thing a few weeks earlier. :(
Quote from: WDH on November 26, 2012, 08:49:24 PM
That is a tiny little chainsaw that you have there compared to that log :D.
no kidding!!!
Great work Scott, very impressive to see.
Nice, You got me by 3'. That IS a beautiful stick!!!
My wife and dog are sitting on the butt of a second log in the last pic.
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Ironwood, that is an interesting mill?
Scott did you run into any stress in those logs?
Those logs sure would have stressed me :).
I still cant get over how beautiful those 43'ers where,....WOW that is rare.
Ironwood
Ironwood they aren't as rare as you think. ;)
Keep the pictures coming Scott. That was some impressive. Can't wait to see how they will complement the build.
ironwood
Are those two regular bar joice that the mill is running on ???
Sure enough, those logs look good. :)
Great work Scott! 8)
Yes, standard (with modifications ;)) my buddies fab shop in Ohio custom built that for me. Neat set up. Dont use it that often.....
Ironwood
Now this is why I enjoy this place so much. Huh, I got bar joist, and an 090G with 60" bar, Huh I may be able to cobble something like that together and open up another market path.
As well as I need wide table stuff from time to time. Ironwood, would you share some more info on your rig? Thanks for sharing guys. Chuck
Quote from: customsawyer on December 01, 2012, 08:59:38 PM
Scott did you run into any stress in those logs?
Jake, very little overall. Just to be safe, I initially milled the beams oversize, and then went back and milled the first to faces a second time to achieve the final dimensions.
Quote from: Dave Shepard on November 26, 2012, 07:36:47 PM
I used a Lull 644 telescoping boom forklift. We also have had a Samsung SL 150 loader. That log is 47' and change. I lift up the end and block it level to start the cut. I have to saw most of the way and slide it the last couple of feet to finish. Those long logs took three of us about 3 or 4 hours to cut the timber and edge and stack the lumber. This year, only one of the logs was over 45', the rest were 42'.
I don't have a pic of the Lull, but I do have this one of the loader and the butt of one of the 47's. 36" after I whittled the flare off.
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Dave, thanks for showing these pix!
Thank you to everybody so far who commented and has enjoyed my post about milling some 43' timbers. In this post I'll document the rest of the project.
My initial post showed the milling process up to the point where two faces had been milled on a log. The milling process changes somewhat for the second two faces, due to the fact that taper in the log no longer has to be factored into consideration and also the process to turn the logs for subsequent cuts is different.
When we milled the first two faces, we picked up the log and swung it over onto a couple of bunks, and used a backhoe bucket to turn it.
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For faces 3 and 4, we have to turn the log in steps, because the sharp edge resists turning and will slide on the bunk if we use the backhoe. So instead, we offset the log on some blocks to facilitate turning.
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We then set it back up in the bunks on the sawmill, but this time we have adjusted all bunks to be equidistant from the sawmill blade, as opposed to the different depths that there were originally set to allow for log taper. This will allow our cuts on opposing faces to be parallel to the opposite face
Here we are set up and ready to mill the third face:
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And milling now commences.
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You can see in the photo one pix back that the butt end of the log is significantly larger in diameter than the opposite end. I have taken advantage of this extra material to mill some special corner guards with my sawmill. Swing-blade mills are unique in that they allow the operator to cut a 90 degree corner boards, similar to a piece of angle iron. I needed to make something that we could attach to the sides of the beams to prevent the cable chokers from the crane from gouging into the corners of the beam, and some 90 degree corner boards would be perfect for this application. We call them "sling guards".
Because a swing blade sawmill allows the operator to swing the blade from horizontal to vertical, initial cuts going down the log are typically made with the blade in the horizontal position, and the return cuts are made with the blade in the vertical position. A single pass down and back usually produces a finished board. In the next photo I am making some of the corner boards, and I have milled out the inner portion of the corner, and am about to make my second pass in the vertical position.
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And the corner boards installed on the log and rigged for picking:
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The sawmill blade has replaceable carbide tips that are silver soldered in place. I retip my own blades, which not only saves me time and money but also allows me to adjust the tip placement for varied effects. Normally I center the tips, to minimize the milling pattern and reduce friction while milling. However, the customer for these beams wanted to accentuate the milling marks in order to add to the visual impact of the beams. After experimenting with several different positions for the tips, I settled on one that produces this pattern:
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After completing the third face, we picked the log/beam back up, moved it out of the mill and wedged it over to the fourth face, and then set it back in the mill in preparation for milling the fourth face:
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Many logs, especially oak, have a tension present in the log that is released during the milling process. This tension causes the log and/or boards to move (I have actually seen boards lift themselves off of the log while being milled due to tension). Because the scarcity of large logs suitable for this project (as well as the expense), I opted for a conservative approach and milled two of the log faces twice, instead of just once. The initial milling resulted in a beam that was around 1" thicker and wider than needed. We then subsequently turned the beam back to the initial faces for the final cuts. Because 90% of the outer wood had already been removed, the bulk of the tension had been released in the logs/ beams and we could now safely mill to the final dimensions. The tension was clearly evident, as the slim boards now being removed from the beam faces tended to vary slightly in thickness. We also accounted for the location of the pith in the log when milling, so as to achieve the best balance between milling needs and center pith (to minimize future beam movement due to unequal stresses on the different beam faces).
This photo shows the progression of milling the final inch out of the last face:
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The beams are now complete! Here is a photo of the finished narrow and wide faces on the beams:
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When complete, the differences in width and thickness from end to end was around 1/8" – 3/16"; which is a reasonable tolerance for something this size.
The last step was to crane the finished beams out of the sawmill and onto one of my trailers for subsequent transportation up to a drying barn.
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They will stay in the barn out of the direct sunlight until we are ready to deliver them to the jobsite in Washington, DC.
I hope that everybody has enjoyed this post; it was certainly a fun and interesting project!
Scott
Wow!! I call them "John Wayne Size! And I felt good cutting a twenty footer on my little manual mill. :D :D :D
That is some outstanding milling. Really great looking beams.
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Charles sling_shot
Awesome job Scott. Thanks for taking us along on the journey. :)
Awesome job indeed. I have milled 26' beams and know about the stress's in mine but 43' long it would be easy to mess up. Looks great.
I just learned a thing or 2 from all the great pic's ! Never new there was a circle saw mill configured like that !
Good job there Scott. I have had some of my timbers rise as much as 6" off of the bed rails.
Quote from: Ironwood on December 02, 2012, 01:21:48 PM
Yes, standard (with modifications ;)) my buddies fab shop in Ohio custom built that for me. Neat set up. Dont use it that often.....
Ironwood
Reid, that sure is a slick setup you have on your mill. I remember back when I visited you in '06 you described your design concept to me and showed me the trusses. It really came out nice!
Nice job :)
Scott, that's just awesome! I think Peterson has some new marketing material. ;) :)
JM
very very impressive scott. professional job and detailed post....doesn't get any better than that. :)
so how did you offload those monsters? tie em to a tree and drive away? :D :D
Thank you for posting and documenting this amazing project.
Interesting to say the least! This is how a Pro does things.
scoot you do your own saw teeth how do do deal with the blade tension
tj
Quote from: tjhammer on December 10, 2012, 09:06:59 AM
scoot you do your own saw teeth how do do deal with the blade tension
tj
TJ, I'm pretty careful to keep the brazing heat localized to the area where the carbide tips are, and also to keep my water jug full and flowing while milling. Thus far, blade tension has not been a problem.
Quote from: mikeb1079 on December 09, 2012, 09:32:47 PM
very very impressive scott. professional job and detailed post....doesn't get any better than that. :)
so how did you offload those monsters? tie em to a tree and drive away? :D :D
:D Nah, I can pick them up with the forks on my backhoe. We just have to be careful to pad the forks so that there is no metal to red oak contact, else we'll get some black stains on the beams.
scully,I went to a small show once,it was raining that day. No more than 20 there,there was only 3-4 mills and one was a swinger. I spent more time with him than the others. never saw or heard of one. I tried to explain it to some guy at work that use to work at a pallet mill and he thought I was lying to him. ;D
Looks like Scott has done this a couple times. :D
scsmith,
Really nice job cutting those beams. They look great from here.
Does the saw pull the motor more when you use a saw that leaves those''desired'' marks on the cant like that?
I have to admit I have made some marks like that with my bandsaw,but never on purpose.
I especially like your corner boards. I have had some folks come by wanting me to make benches out of logs that look like a bigger version of your corner covers, except with bark on the bottom and back. I cant do that with the bandmill but I could have with a chainsaw.
PC
Quote from: paul case on December 10, 2012, 10:42:10 AM
scsmith,
Does the saw pull the motor more when you use a saw that leaves those''desired'' marks on the cant like that?
PC
Paul, it sure does. Probably added 30% or so to the milling time.
Incredible. And I thought the willow oak that we sawed up over Thanksgiving was big. My little 4" x 24" x 10' bench slab is cowering in embarrassment at the sight of those beams :D
Yeah, and you do not have a backhoe to move it with, either :D.
Scott, that is some seriously pro sawing...absolutely outstanding.
Very cool thread, thanks for sharing!
Is there anyway to see some pictures of the timberframe building that these timbers were used in? I would love to see the finished product.
After reading this, I am going to have a hard time going back to milling my 2 x 4s tomorrow.
Truly impressive, Scott.
Bob
That is truly neat!!!!!
Thank you for sharing those pics.
I don't even want to think about moving those beasts around!!!! :)
I liked your comment on the bug treatment.... we used some of our own logs in our cabin, after they sat around during the construction..... well, after the timbers were up and the roof was on, we started to see some nasty buggers hanging around inside the cabin...
Yup! Bark beetles... there was no structural damage... just lots of pencil sized holes and lots of ugly buggars to squish for a while... Hmmm, I guess I should have seen that one coming! :) :)
Here he is...
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I bet those beams will look great when they are up!!!
Great job.
-Dad2FourWI
Umm, changed my mind about the saw marks. Can you just run it through a surface planer?
Seriously, I've been looking for a 1x6x42'. Do you still have it? :D
I cut a couple of clear 5/4x10"x42' boards last year. They're 10' now. :(
I do that too :D :D :D :D :D :D
Quote from: biker250 on November 21, 2013, 11:27:17 AM
Very cool thread, thanks for sharing!
Is there anyway to see some pictures of the timberframe building that these timbers were used in? I would love to see the finished product.
You're welcome!
Here is a photo of the finished interior:
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The restaurant is open in Falls Church, VA. It is called the "Open Road".
Quote from: NH4000 on November 21, 2013, 10:25:48 PM
Umm, changed my mind about the saw marks. Can you just run it through a surface planer?
Seriously, I've been looking for a 1x6x42'. Do you still have it? :D
Yeah, but the shipping costs might be a deal breaker! :D
Awesome Scott. You are the man!
Quote from: MRowsh on November 22, 2013, 08:00:15 PM
Awesome Scott. You are the man!
Thanks Mehdi! We still need to figure out a time for you to stop by.
Scott - my oldest daughter with her boys will be moving to Falls Church right after the first of the year. We may need to do a close inspection of your work. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :D
Bruce
I'll have to check it out too. I'm only 30 min away.
Scott,
That place looks hot with all the fans. Probably some tobacco spitting going on, too.
OMG !! North Carolina is home to a real wood wizard.............
Sure nice to see those beams at their final destination. Gives perspective to some of the work the old-timers did.......Makes me think your tolerances are tighter! Work to be proud of, fer sure!!! 8) 8)
Quote from: SAWMILL BUDDY on November 22, 2013, 08:59:18 PM
I'll have to check it out too. I'm only 30 min away.
Quote from: submarinesailor on November 22, 2013, 08:50:42 PM
Scott - my oldest daughter with her boys will be moving to Falls Church right after the first of the year. We may need to do a close inspection of your work. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :D
Bruce
The restaurant is right on the old Leesburg Highway, just outside of the beltline. I need to get up there myself to check out the finished installation. There is an Italian restaurant owned by the same group on the other end of the building (The Trio Grill)
Quote from: scsmith42 on November 25, 2013, 05:39:51 AM
The restaurant is right on the old Leesburg Highway, just outside of the beltline. I need to get up there myself to check out the finished installation. There is an Italian restaurant owned by the same group on the other end of the building (The Trio Grill)
Scott - Let me know if you do plan on coming up and checking it out. I'll buy you a beer.
Bruce
Quote from: submarinesailor on November 25, 2013, 05:49:43 AM
Quote from: scsmith42 on November 25, 2013, 05:39:51 AM
The restaurant is right on the old Leesburg Highway, just outside of the beltline. I need to get up there myself to check out the finished installation. There is an Italian restaurant owned by the same group on the other end of the building (The Trio Grill)
Scott - Let me know if you do plan on coming up and checking it out. I'll buy you a beer.
Bruce
Bruce, I'll definitely take you up on that offer!
Scott, you mentioned putting the beams in a drying barn. Just how extensively have they been dried? If the MC is not uniform throughout the beam, won't the beam move upon further drying over the years?
Bob
Bob, they are not going to dry very much in 6 months; it will take a decade or more for them to fully dry.
Since they were milled heart center (and also because the logs had few defects), they should retain their basic shape during drying.
OK. makes sense. I guess that's why so many large old beams are still straight today.