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Title: entry level bandmill
Post by: DDobbs on December 05, 2012, 10:39:04 AM
I have been trying to add apples to apples for sometime on a couple bandmills.

The EZ Boardwalk both the Jr & 40 an the Wood-Mizer LT15 GO

When you come down to dollars there is a very clear winner.

I have seen all 3 in person the WM was a very low hour saw it wasn't new like 16 or 17 hours in a shed. It was very nice but even used way higher than the EZ's.
   Give me some thoughts.....

They are both on the list to the left hope it is ok to ask this.

I have a CMS now saw mostly urban wood that would be in a landfill if not taken other wise but having a time keeping up.
So it is not like I need to saw 1500 ft a day a manual mill will do me fine

Just putting this out here to get thoughts

Thanks
Dave
Title: Re: entry level bandmill
Post by: beenthere on December 05, 2012, 11:31:00 AM
It's your money so it is your call.
If it were my money, I know which it would be but it is not.

If your choice doesn't work out for some reason, I wouldn't want to be blamed. ;)

And look at what it might be worth when you decide to sell it. There are reasons used prices are higher on some equipment for some brands. If it were green, it would be even more expensive, so I hear.  ;D
Title: Re: entry level bandmill
Post by: Magicman on December 05, 2012, 11:59:54 AM
While we may favor the FF sponsors, any question about any sawmill brand/manufacturer is OK.  I saw one non-sponsor sawmill brand get discussed on here which later became a sponsor, probably due to that discussion.

Non favored would be a Chinese knockoff trying to duplicate a sponsor's product.   smiley_thumbsdown smiley_thumbsdown
Title: Re: entry level bandmill
Post by: Fil-Dill on December 05, 2012, 12:04:28 PM
I have owned both EZ mills. If you are going to buy a manual mill, they are as good as it gets.
Title: Re: entry level bandmill
Post by: tomkat001 on December 05, 2012, 01:24:48 PM
My Boardwalk JR does everything I ask it to. Last weekend I cut a 30" Maple. It was a lot of work getting everything linned up, but the saw performed perfectly.

Ed is a great guy to work with, he delivered the mill and went thru everything with me.

I am a limited weekend sawyer only, so it's not like I run it hard all day long everyday, I don't think I'm man enough for that :)
Title: Re: entry level bandmill
Post by: DDobbs on December 05, 2012, 02:10:54 PM
 If it were green, it would be even more expensive, so I hear.  ;D
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I have 3 older green ones an that is right!

I am leaning to the EZ just cause the dollars an how they are built. I can't come up for a reason to spend the extra $3500 to $4500.

I understand the resale point that was made. But every used of either one that comes up for sale are not on the market long.

Thanks for everyones input

Dave
Title: Re: entry level bandmill
Post by: Magicman on December 05, 2012, 02:23:13 PM
Member Paul Case, had a very favorable experience with a Boardwalk.  He is also an expert with the PCM, ballast, auditory comprehension, chicken, and bungee belts.   ;D
Title: Re: entry level bandmill
Post by: Fil-Dill on December 05, 2012, 05:13:49 PM
Can you buy the boardwalk 40 for the same price as a LT15 GO?
Title: Re: entry level bandmill
Post by: MotorSeven on December 05, 2012, 06:47:25 PM
Quote from: DDobbs on December 05, 2012, 02:10:54 PM


I am leaning to the EZ just cause the dollars an how they are built. I can't come up for a reason to spend the extra $3500 to $4500.

Dave

Dave, $3500-4500 difference?

EZ Boardwalk Jr- $4000
EZ model 40-      $6900

Woodmizer LT10- $3275
Woodmizer LT15- $6895

I understand these mills are not equal, but they are similar.

Title: Re: entry level bandmill
Post by: Ianab on December 05, 2012, 07:14:18 PM
Dunno, I'd think the Boardwalk Jr would be more comparable to the LT15. It's much more mill than an LT10, maybe in between?

The Boardwalk 40 is probably closer to a LT28? A little less power, but actually a bigger log capacity. Either way it's much more mill than a LT15.

Nothing wrong with any of the machines, but I think the EZ comes out ahead on amount of mill for your $$.

Ian
Title: Re: entry level bandmill
Post by: hackberry jake on December 05, 2012, 08:19:06 PM
+1 on the ez boardwalk. I would go with the jr again in a heartbeat. I have only had 4 logs in two years that were out of its size capabilities. One I halved with a chainsaw and sawd the halves, one I had a chainsaw mill cut for me, and the other two I "bibbyed" with a chainsaw to get the carriage to pass. The boardwalk 40 will handle logs bigger than I want to turn by hand. It's a beast. I have heard very good things about the wm mills as well so which ever path you choose I'm sure you'll be in good hands.
Title: Re: entry level bandmill
Post by: Kingcha on December 05, 2012, 08:41:28 PM
What size blade is on the Jr. I see it is 1.25" but what lenght
Title: Re: entry level bandmill
Post by: WDH on December 05, 2012, 08:53:14 PM
Jake makes a good point.  Without hydraulics, you can't handle the really big logs anyway, so it does not matter as much.  The really big logs will about kill you and tear everything up. 
Title: Re: entry level bandmill
Post by: DDobbs on December 05, 2012, 09:09:07 PM
Quote from: MotorSeven on December 05, 2012, 06:47:25 PM
Quote from: DDobbs on December 05, 2012, 02:10:54 PM


I am leaning to the EZ just cause the dollars an how they are built. I can't come up for a reason to spend the extra $3500 to $4500.

Dave

Dave, $3500-4500 difference?

EZ Boardwalk Jr- $4000
EZ model 40-      $6900

Woodmizer LT10- $3275
Woodmizer LT15- $6895

I understand these mills are not equal, but they are similar.

the WM has a 18hp on the $6895 the LT15 the EZ has 24hp for $6900 the trailer kit is $600 for the EZ so I was calling it $7500. The LT15go-g18 on sale is $9890 I belive it is a $800 upgrade to a 25hp that takes it to $10690 . So that is where I came up with them numbers
The Jr with the trailer kit is $4400 the  LT10 doesn't have a trailer kit that I have found.

Just keeping in the apple to apples as close as I can with the units. the axle does stay under the LT 15 go so there is a bit more cost there with all the jacks.
I built them on the WM web site this AM .but now the build button is no longer there
I am just going by the last sales flyer I got from them tonight.

Thanks
Dave
Title: Re: entry level bandmill
Post by: beenthere on December 05, 2012, 09:36:04 PM
Quote from: DDobbs on December 05, 2012, 09:09:07 PM
Quote from: MotorSeven on December 05, 2012, 06:47:25 PM
Quote from: DDobbs on December 05, 2012, 02:10:54 PM


I am leaning to the EZ just cause the dollars an how they are built. I can't come up for a reason to spend the extra $3500 to $4500.

Dave

Dave, $3500-4500 difference?

EZ Boardwalk Jr- $4000
EZ model 40-      $6900

Woodmizer LT10- $3275
Woodmizer LT15- $6895

I understand these mills are not equal, but they are similar.

Quote
the WM has a 18hp on the $6895 the LT15 the EZ has 24hp for $6900 the trailer kit is $600 for the EZ so I was calling it $7500. The LT15go-g18 on sale is $9890 I belive it is a $800 upgrade to a 25hp that takes it to $10690 . So that is where I came up with them numbers
The Jr with the trailer kit is $4400 the  LT10 doesn't have a trailer kit that I have found.

Just keeping in the apple to apples as close as I can with the units. the axle does stay under the LT 15 go so there is a bit more cost there with all the jacks.
I built them on the WM web site this AM .but now the build button is no longer there
I am just going by the last sales flyer I got from them tonight.

Thanks
Dave

Dave
Couldn't tell where your post started, when it was within the quote brackets. ;)
Title: Re: entry level bandmill
Post by: MotorSeven on December 05, 2012, 09:54:57 PM
Ok, Dave you didn't mention in the original post about a trailer & your right $2k for a trailer pkg is a lot. I didn't compare then mills option-wise, like I said, similar and not apples to apples. Don't get me wrong I am not knocking the Boardwalks, just trying to stimulate the synapses :)
Title: Re: entry level bandmill
Post by: MMann on December 05, 2012, 10:00:37 PM
DDobbs, I'm new to the scene as well, and went through the same delima as you are now.  In the end I went with the EZ 40.  It's not on the website, but Edward has a 27hp Honda GX690 that you can upgrade to for an additional $200.  I have only used mine once to saw a dead red oak, and it cut through it with ease.  Removing the axle when setting up is a little nerve racking, but once you get comfortable with the process, it's not a problem.  Very happy with mine.
Title: Re: entry level bandmill
Post by: hackberry jake on December 05, 2012, 11:01:10 PM
If you wanted to be more mobile then the lt15go would prolly take he cake. My mill is set up stationary and I love it that way. You can run a lot more options with grid tied power. But if it were up to me I would still get the jr and modify it to leave the axle under when sawing.... Course I'm a little partial.
Title: Re: entry level bandmill
Post by: paul case on December 06, 2012, 09:15:17 AM
Yes, I have had a serveral very favorable experiences with EZ Boardwalk.

The model 40 I had was a 20 hp Honda and did everything I asked it to. I miss being able to saw 36'' wide slabs without doing much trimming. I bought it new and used it for more than 3 years, putting about 550 hours on the motor. It made me a living and cut out all the parts for my house as well. When I sold it I got right at 75% of my money back. Try doing that with a new pick up truck.

Both companies you are looking at have excellent service.

As for my experience with the PCM, ballast, auditory comprehension ( that was DonK's term), chicken, and bungee cords Iwill let the facts speak for themselves. I know there are pictures so they must have happened.  ;D

PC