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General Forestry => Tree, Plant and Wood I.D. => Topic started by: mesquite buckeye on January 09, 2013, 09:09:47 PM

Title: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: mesquite buckeye on January 09, 2013, 09:09:47 PM
What tree am I ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: WDH on January 09, 2013, 09:40:41 PM
What is the prize?
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: mesquite buckeye on January 09, 2013, 10:22:27 PM
 :snowball: :new_year: 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: mesquite buckeye on January 09, 2013, 10:26:10 PM
 

 (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/31219/catclawtabletop1wet%7E0.jpg)

Here is a bigger image to help out.



 (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/31219/AndywiththebigcatclawattheBowlin.jpg)

Even more easier with the tree, no ??? ??? ??? ;D
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: thecfarm on January 09, 2013, 10:33:19 PM
some sort of willow.  :D   I was going to guess hemlock.  :D   :D
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: clww on January 09, 2013, 10:34:43 PM
Mesquite?
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: mesquite buckeye on January 09, 2013, 10:36:17 PM
Not willow, not hemlock.

Mesquite is a relative, big clue. ::) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: LeeB on January 09, 2013, 10:42:54 PM
Huisach? sp
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: mesquite buckeye on January 09, 2013, 10:46:43 PM
It takes a Texan to get closer.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Not Huische, but very, well pretty close.

It is from Redington, Arizona.....  new clue :snowball:

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Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: WDH on January 10, 2013, 07:52:24 AM
Ebenopsis ebano.
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: mesquite buckeye on January 10, 2013, 09:09:19 AM
Less close, same family 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: LeeB on January 10, 2013, 10:09:41 AM
Honey mesquite?
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: mesquite buckeye on January 10, 2013, 11:13:34 AM
Not any Prosopis.      I have never seen a mesquite in the red range. Usually tan when fresh cut. :snowball: :snowball: :snowball: :snowball: :snowball: ;D
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: mesquite buckeye on January 10, 2013, 11:17:01 AM
Next hint: native to SW US and northern Mexico, usually not this big ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :snowball:
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: Dodgy Loner on January 10, 2013, 03:57:36 PM
Quote from: mesquite buckeye on January 09, 2013, 09:09:47 PM
What tree am I ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

I know, I know! You're a mesquite buckeye! ;D
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: Dodgy Loner on January 10, 2013, 04:00:27 PM
Just kidding. I don't know many desert plants very well. Is it some kind of acacia?
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: mesquite buckeye on January 10, 2013, 04:04:39 PM
Quote from: Dodgy Loner on January 10, 2013, 03:57:36 PM
Quote from: mesquite buckeye on January 09, 2013, 09:09:47 PM
What tree am I ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

I know, I know! You're a mesquite buckeye! ;D

Very cute, but wrong. :D :D :D :D 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: mesquite buckeye on January 10, 2013, 04:06:04 PM
Quote from: Dodgy Loner on January 10, 2013, 04:00:27 PM
Just kidding. I don't know many desert plants very well. Is it some kind of acacia?

Yes is is. Which one ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
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Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: Dodgy Loner on January 10, 2013, 04:22:12 PM
Well, since you said they don't normally get big, I'll go with smallii
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: mesquite buckeye on January 10, 2013, 05:43:09 PM
Then that would be Huisache, which it isn't. 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) :snowball:

There aren't that many Acacias here, and less that get at all big.

:snowball: :snowball: :snowball: :snowball: :snowball: 8) 8) 8) ;D
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: mesquite buckeye on January 10, 2013, 05:46:06 PM
One more clue for the forest pathologist types.

These trees normally are hollow by the time they reach maturity, usually covered with conks. 8)
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: LeeB on January 10, 2013, 06:57:54 PM
Devils claw?
The wood looks like memosa.
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: mesquite buckeye on January 10, 2013, 08:32:56 PM
Quote from: LeeB on January 10, 2013, 06:57:54 PM
Devils claw?
The wood looks like memosa.

Nope. Closer on the first try ;D

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Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: mesquite buckeye on January 10, 2013, 08:35:05 PM
New clue:

The wood in the past has been used to make doubletrees because of its strength. :P :-X
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: mesquite buckeye on January 10, 2013, 08:37:19 PM
Another clue: the wood from a related species is said to have been used to construct the Ark of the Covenant.

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Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: Dave Shepard on January 10, 2013, 08:44:43 PM
If I remember my "Evan Almighty" correctly, it's gopher wood. :D
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: mesquite buckeye on January 10, 2013, 08:47:20 PM
Quote from: Dave Shepard on January 10, 2013, 08:44:43 PM
If I remember my "Evan Almighty" correctly, it's gopher wood. :D

shittim wood, which is an acacia.

Now the question is which acacia.

I hate to just straight up give it away :( :( ;D :-X
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: WDH on January 10, 2013, 08:56:27 PM
Catclaw acacia or Devil's Claw.
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: LeeB on January 10, 2013, 09:02:04 PM
Guajillo
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: mesquite buckeye on January 10, 2013, 09:08:37 PM
Another good try, but that one, Acacia berlandieri, doesn't make it this far west. ;D ;D ;D

How big does it get for you? I've never seen that one bigger than a few inches thick. ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: LeeB on January 10, 2013, 09:15:50 PM
I don't even know that I've ever seen one. Just hoping to get lucky.  :D
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: mesquite buckeye on January 10, 2013, 09:23:46 PM
Quote from: LeeB on January 10, 2013, 09:15:50 PM
I don't even know that I've ever seen one. Just hoping to get lucky.  :D

South Texas into NE Mexico. :P
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: mesquite buckeye on January 10, 2013, 09:28:50 PM
It's much easier if you already know the answer.  :snowball::P

It sliced up my arms when we got it. Some of the prettiest wood I've seen. Pinky red with lots of sheen.

This one probably would have been like the state champion big tree for the species. Bottom log had fence through the middle, upper branches mostly center rotted. One pretty good log that produced this bookmatch, about 17 inches by a little over 4 ft each piece 8/4.
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: Dodgy Loner on January 10, 2013, 09:57:27 PM
Rigidula? Farnesia?
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: mesquite buckeye on January 10, 2013, 10:11:06 PM
Dodgy Loner is going for the gold, meanwhile, WDH had the right answer and I missed it :-[


Acacia greggii, Catclaw Acacia, Una de Gato in Spanish. Should be a tilde above the n.

Good job WDH  ;D ;D ;D ;D

I'll have to get a harder one next time.....
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: WDH on January 10, 2013, 10:12:33 PM
Actually, I believe that Lee takes the first prize  ;D.
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: Dodgy Loner on January 10, 2013, 11:07:05 PM
That would certainly have been close to a national champion. The national champion Acacia greggii is in Red Rock, NM, and measures 77" in circumference (24.5" in diameter), 49' tall, with a 46' crown spread :P.

Looks like some beautiful wood. We should swap a USPS medium flat-rate box of wood. I can send you a variety of eastern hardwoods and you can send me some of your awesome desert hardwoods. :)
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: mesquite buckeye on January 10, 2013, 11:24:02 PM
Quote from: Dodgy Loner on January 10, 2013, 11:07:05 PM
That would certainly have been close to a national champion. The national champion Acacia greggii is in Red Rock, NM, and measures 77" in circumference (24.5" in diameter), 49' tall, with a 46' crown spread :P.

Looks like some beautiful wood. We should swap a USPS medium flat-rate box of wood. I can send you a variety of eastern hardwoods and you can send me some of your awesome desert hardwoods. :)

That might be fun. Got any leadwood?

I have a farm in Missouri, so have many of the common species. Also don't have Carolina silverbells, or maybe something else weird.....

The tree was 24"DBH, growing where the tailwater from an irrigated field ran past it before dropping into the San Pedro Riverbed. Also the water table is only about 20'deep where it grew. Pretty much a use it or lose it deal when we cut it. The upper parts were already starting to break up. It actually had grown roots into the rotted interior, recyling the nutrients, I guess. :) :) :)
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: mesquite buckeye on January 10, 2013, 11:25:24 PM
Quote from: WDH on January 10, 2013, 10:12:33 PM
Actually, I believe that Lee takes the first prize  ;D.

He did call it an acacia, didn't he? :snowball: :snowball: ;D
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: LeeB on January 10, 2013, 11:32:51 PM
Actually I suggested Devil's claw and said it looked like memosa.
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: mesquite buckeye on January 10, 2013, 11:34:06 PM
This one had it's spread limited by some big Mesquites growing near it. I actually wondered about it when we cut it, just how big this one is compared to others.

There is a Condalia tree growing in a wash near the Pinacate Volcanos in Sonora just south of Arizona close to 4ft thick by something like 25ft tall by over 30 ft across. Easily national champion for the species if it were 10 miles further north.    Now that is some awsome wood, if you have ever seen anything from the Rhamnaceae. Mirrors everywhere :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Also sinks in water.

sp gr 1.3

Dry


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Wood listed in 1880 census about trees of North America

Has a map of forests by state.

Big blob in southern Idaho says ENEXPLORED

Way cool.
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: Dodgy Loner on January 11, 2013, 12:32:17 AM
Quote from: mesquite buckeye on January 10, 2013, 11:24:02 PM
Quote from: Dodgy Loner on January 10, 2013, 11:07:05 PM
That would certainly have been close to a national champion. The national champion Acacia greggii is in Red Rock, NM, and measures 77" in circumference (24.5" in diameter), 49' tall, with a 46' crown spread :P.

Looks like some beautiful wood. We should swap a USPS medium flat-rate box of wood. I can send you a variety of eastern hardwoods and you can send me some of your awesome desert hardwoods. :)

That might be fun. Got any leadwood?

I have a farm in Missouri, so have many of the common species. Also don't have Carolina silverbells, or maybe something else weird.....

If you want weird, I can get you weird ;D No leadwood, I'm afraid. I haven't spent much time in South Florida. But we have some stuff around here that you might find interesting. Besides silverbell (which I might have a sample of...I'll have to check), is there anything specifically you're interested in? I've got a few in mind already. Would you like wood of a size that could be used for any specific purpose, or just some samples for reference purposes? (I keep samples in 1/2" x 3" x 6" sizes for my wood collection)
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: 1270d on January 11, 2013, 08:25:46 AM
Is this the same catclaw I used to mutter to myself about when quail hunting?  That ruined more pairs of pants than my first 8 yrs of life?  Never I thought it never got more than 6 or 7 ft high.  We called it the barbarian growth.
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: mesquite buckeye on January 11, 2013, 08:50:20 AM
hooked spines like cats claws. Did you used to live in the SW ??? ???
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: 1270d on January 11, 2013, 07:42:15 PM
Sounds like the same stuff.  I bought a pair of brush chaps to help save the pants.

I lived in prescott arizona.  When the housing bubble burst and the construction industry slumped I came back to logging.  My wife still has family to visit there.   Good excuse to go chase quail again. 

I love the woods and logging, but I love the desert and mountains of the SW just as much
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: mesquite buckeye on January 13, 2013, 01:58:21 AM
Both have their good points. If I'm in one, I miss the other ;D
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot
Post by: 1270d on January 13, 2013, 10:11:44 AM
Yup same over