A couple years ago was vacationing in southern Oregon ran across a logging muesum on Highway 97 about 30 miles north of Klamath Falls. Very interesting place. Think I found the first portable sawmill on the west coast. :D
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Think it was two horse power and burned hay. :D
ive seen some like the first pic but have no idea about the second one haha..great pics
I think what you see there is a bucking saw. A mechanical replacement for the crosscut and used just as set to buck the felled tree into logs.
That's an example of what's called a drag saw .I have never seen it being powered by a horse or mule though but have seen old hit and miss engines or PTO types .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scNb1bvzvis&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Here is one (not same one) being powered by hit and miss engine.
I've never seen a drag saw powered that way, but I watched a mule-powered hay baler in action that worked the same way. The mule just walked in a circle, stepping over the connecting rod while his bossman forked loose hay into the box. When the bale was complete, he would tell the mule to stop while he tied the bale and removed it. If memory serves, it took about five minutes to make a bale.
:D My father told me stories about drag saws ran from the PTO of a John -Deere B .The danged saw would get hung up and the JD would shake like dog wagging its' tail .Actually he said he and his younger brother could out cut one with a sharp two man cross cut but they couldn't out last it .
Those are great pics. Thanks for sharing them.
Quote from: Al_Smith on February 14, 2013, 08:28:51 AM
:D My father told me stories about drag saws ran from the PTO of a John -Deere B .The danged saw would get hung up and the JD would shake like dog wagging its' tail .
Exactly my thought while watching that video Bibby posted. If that blade got hung up due to tension or pitch you could really have a mess on your hands.
Maybe they were designed to cut only on the pull stroke?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flOrcL4b4xM
Poor Horse. :) I'll bet he stays in shape.
I've never seen a mill like this.
Good vid. Jeff smiley_thumbsup
QuoteI've never seen a mill like this.
That's because it is a dragsaw. ;)
I've not got any mechanized drag saws any longer. just a human powered one, my folding drag saw, however I have several drag saw blades. Come to thing of it, I think I even have one hanging in Chet's sawshed. :D
I believe those were used a lot out west cutting wood for the "Donkey engines", they ate a bunch of wood and kept guys busy bucking and splitting for those beasts!! Jeff ,i got one of those folding dragsaws also!!! just like brand new ,this tells me they were not very successful. ;D ;D I just got a factory brochure for it last week. Heres a picture in the Mini museum. Don
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Don, I'll try to get the literature I have for the folding saw scanned. I was lucky enough to get a bunch of stuff from the daughter of one of the salesmen from the company. I have all kinds of stuff, including a several hand written testimonials sent to the company by customers.
I spent about 4 hours this morning scanning stuff because you inspired me to do so with your Mini-Museum photos. :D I have not however scanned the folding drag saw stuff, but I did dig out and scanned the photo below, that relates to the original post. :)
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Jeff, that is a very interesting photograph. It's something what people can come up with to save their backs. Guess that would be classified as a one-horse power plant. ;D
When my great-grandfather was little, just after 1900, there was somebody going around sawing firewood with a two-sheep treadmill. That's all I know about that story, unfortunately. I wonder how many sheep per cord they got on that thing? And how did they get the sheep to cooperate? I think they'd sooner die than cooperate. :D
Quote from: Jeff on February 14, 2013, 04:15:18 PM
I've not got any mechanized drag saws any longer. just a human powered one, my folding drag saw, however I have several drag saw blades. Come to thing of it, I think I even have one hanging in Chet's sawshed. :D
:o you remembered :D :D :D
You was hoping I didn't! :D It's in a good home. ;)
I've got just a ton of dragsaw stuff from back when I actually had some dragsaws. This is a pretty cool Postcard. I scanned front and back
Maybe better off calling it a salescard? early 1900's junk mail? :)
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The phone number was only 4 numbers. :)
Nice piece of history.......yesterdays days junk, todays treasures. smiley_thumbsup
Hey Poston, Jeff just posted you a new avatar look......see it? :D
Just kiddin!
KTF
I stop there every time I pass through there.Great logging museum.
That old horsepower treadmill is pretty neat,theres a ox mill about 4 miles from here. i have part of a dragsaw ,but dont know what make it is. I would like to find one nice one sometime ,maybe a witte ,or Ottawa. I was thinking about the original picture of the museum saw ,they probably were used in cutting shingle bolts also. Don
It looks like you have an early folding saw like mine is. The later ones were painted. I've seen mostly red, but I did see one that was a yellow color as well. Still had the label on it, so I'm sure it had always been yellow.
Quote from: Bibbyman on February 14, 2013, 06:54:47 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scNb1bvzvis&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Here is one (not same one) being powered by hit and miss engine.
I think that if I was showing off this tool, I would of used the edit button!
Jeff, you can see most of the label is still on mine also. Don
I was thinking the face on the end of that "really tough log" bore an uncanny resemblance to Poston :D