I cut pecan ( smiley_devil) today, so I am a little beat up and put out. I cut one board today that even a PhD in geometry could not figure out :). I am going to either have to have a serious talk with the genus Carya, or either come to the conclusion that this genus cannot be rehabilitated :-\.
I have 6 more logs to go and not as much appetite to saw them as I had when I started. Anybody need any bowed, thick-n-thin, split, green pecan boards for a project? I will make you a deal. They are free :D.
I have some of the very same boards!
The temperature is about 30° here now. I can think of a project real fast. :D
By the way,did someone mention PIE????
Quotetell me kid....have you ever danced with the devil by the pale moonlight?
i'm sorry to hear that your dance turned so sour wdh. :'( however i believe i read that you're retired, live in georgia (where the temps are in the 70s?, and have a 200 acre woodlot. now i don't feel so sorry for you anymore. :D :) :laugh:
Quote from: mikeb1079 on February 28, 2013, 10:19:52 PM
:'( however i believe i read that you're retired, live in georgia (where the temps are in the 70s?, and have a 200 acre woodlot. now i don't feel so sorry for you anymore. :D :) :laugh:
I guess that if you put it like that, then things are not too bad at all. What is a little pecan misery in the big scheme of things ??? :D.
Ray, maybe we need to stick to the nuts :).
:D :D :D
pecan is just there to remind you of how nice it is to saw anything else. :)
The problem is that I also have three hackberry logs to saw, too :).
smiley_horserider
Quote from: WDH on February 28, 2013, 10:37:27 PM
The problem is that I also have three hackberry logs to saw, too :).
Oh, I see how it is, discriminating against the ole hackberry, and I thought I was welcome here :(
Jake,
You have a tendency to twist and warp. This can be overlooked :D.
so is there any hope for pecan wood? other than the smoker? I had always thought there must be something you can use/ build with that wood, even if its a barn / chicken coup , tho I was hoping more for flooring , interior wall, heck even some type of furniture,
WDH...cut your 3 hackberrys, stack em up and pile those pecans on top to keep everything in order. ;) :D
Quote from: Po-Jo on March 01, 2013, 08:06:36 AM
so is there any hope for pecan wood? other than the smoker? I had always thought there must be something you can use/ build with that wood, even if its a barn / chicken coup , tho I was hoping more for flooring , interior wall, heck even some type of furniture,
Yep,There is if you know how to work with it,Look here.https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php/topic,62883.0.html
WDH, I'm wondering, if you deliver I would take it of your hands.(just saying) I would like to meet this smiley_devil wood you talk about. Remember I'm new and (like a teenager) nothing is impossible! Keith
Why do you guys have such a problem with pecan? Put a 10 degree blade on and crank your tensioner as far as it will go and have at it. I also found a diesel/bar oil lube works really well.
Quote from: WDH on February 28, 2013, 09:59:36 PM
I cut pecan ( smiley_devil) today, so I am a little beat up and put out. I cut one board today that even a PhD in geometry could not figure out :). I am going to either have to have a serious talk with the genus Carya, or either come to the conclusion that this genus cannot be rehabilitated :-\.
I have 6 more logs to go and not as much appetite to saw them as I had when I started. Anybody need any bowed, thick-n-thin, split, green pecan boards for a project? I will make you a deal. They are free :D.
Just keep flippin that log till they don't curl no mo.
Do what I do with Hickory. Make 4 cuts, call it a cross tie and cut the slabs into firewood.
If anybody wants anything else out of Hickory, the price goes up enough to cover the nerve pills. ;D
Quote from: CalebL on March 01, 2013, 09:45:21 AM
Why do you guys have such a problem with pecan? Put a 10 degree blade on and crank your tensioner as far as it will go and have at it. I also found a diesel/bar oil lube works really well.
Or a 9, or maybe a 7. I don't get what all the hubub is about. Can't imagine the slabs curl up more than 6 or 8 inches during the cut. Big deal. Once you get the tension out, should be no problemo. Try some big, curvy lateral branches on a mesquite or a cottonwood if you want to see some drama.
Danny, this is but a test from the wood god.
Your task, or trial if you prefer, is to accept the shenanigans of those logs and make something beautiful and useful out of them.
It can be done and you are just the man to do it :D
I think those little sticks used to impart flavor to cooked meats are a true thing of beauty! :)
For us northerners who only saw Pecan's cousin the Hickory as I understand,
is this true?
"Clever as the Devil and twice as pretty."
― Holly Black
anyone care to share some Pecan pics?
DGDrls
heres one
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/25938/pecan.jpg)
hahahah........Nice. I have some pics of some 24" wide pecan slabs though......to be continued........
I had some 2" yellow birch sawed some time ago, just part of a whack that I wanted random thickness and width from some logs. There was 2 or 3 of those that twisted like a spiral staircase. I never looked close at them to see what was going on with the grain. But they came from nice logs. At least they was nice when I hauled them in to mill. Never know sometimes. Maybe I got traded. :D
Not a blade or a lube issue, but a tension in the log issue. Did not matter if you flipped the log after each and every cut. Nothing you can do about some logs except cut the lumber thick like was mentioned. Maybe the other logs will behave better :).
I have seen smaller Pecan logs that could/would not be sawed. My experience has been that the larger the log is, better it behaves.
Quote from: mikeb1079 on February 28, 2013, 10:34:49 PM
:D :D :D
pecan is just there to remind you of how nice it is to saw anything else. :)
And then you get something like this:
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10074/wbdangbrds02.jpg)
Thats some
pecan smiley_devil that Woodbowl milled for DanG several years back...
If I could get wood like that I'd be pleased to say "The smiley_devil made me do it!"
Herb
Danny some logs are meant to burn.
Danny,
Does the W in WDH stand for WHINE ? Retired, new building, upgraded saw, nice wife, host of friends and admirers, position of responsibility on the Forum and living in wonderful Georgia....Seems like that would warrant an attitude of gratitude,not whining about some @#$%^ pecan pos logs. Say your prayers...
Even with all that, I still admire you..............
Maybe you missed it but it was all in jest fat old elf.
Danny isn't a whiner. Pure man, and a good one at that. :)
sometimes a sawmill is really a firewood machine
I was gonna ask how much shrinkage he had anticipated, but I didn't want to start noth'n. ;D
I cooked some chicken over chunks of pecan and charcoal this afternoon in my pit.
Got quite a few compliments from the crew. Some of them complimented twice. ;)
Quote from: hackberry jake on February 28, 2013, 11:11:32 PM
Quote from: WDH on February 28, 2013, 10:37:27 PM
The problem is that I also have three hackberry logs to saw, too :).
Oh, I see how it is, discriminating against the ole hackberry, and I thought I was welcome here :(
OK Jake,
Here is a pic of some of the hackberry lumber. I want to be sure and give hackberry equal time on a thread dealing with the devil :D.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/14370/011.JPG)
Looks like super nice stuff to me... Would make some nice bookmatches. ;D
Mmmm hackberry. ;D
See, I was thinking about you ;D.
Quote from: Magicman on March 01, 2013, 10:49:06 PM
I have seen smaller Pecan logs that could/would not be sawed. My experience has been that the larger the log is, better it behaves.
Isn't that pretty much true of all species? I've found that the big old sweetgum logs around here (over 20") mill up pretty well with few problems. From what I've seen most of the tension issues from logs comes from milling saplings instead of mature trees. Any insights, or am I all wet on that?
I think it depends on age more than it depends on size. I cut up a cherry tree that was about 22" dbh and it dried flawlessly. It was over 100 years old. A couple years later I cut up a 38" cherry tree that was 58 years old and it has cupped and split more than I ever would've expected.
Danny, I will suggest that you burn it now before it get too hot out. :)
I have had the same experience on tension prone species where the small ones act the worst.
Marcell, we could have a whack of a bonfire ;D.
move_it fire_smiley smiley_sweat_drop :D
That about sums it up :D.