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Title: Flintlock Muzzleloaders
Post by: BCCrouch on April 12, 2004, 06:37:46 PM
They've been on my mind, so I thought I might tap into the collective knowledge of the forum.  These websites caught my eye:

http://www.avsia.com/tvm/

http://gggodwin.com/

http://www.flintlocks.com/default.asp

I despise the idea of modern, in-line, scope-tapped, synthetic-stocked muzzleloaders designed to dance on the very edge of legality for muzzleloading season.  Arms at home in "The Last of the Mohicans", "The Patriot", or "The Alamo" alone are worthy of my attention.  Simply put, historical pieces have soul that their modern cousins lack.

Now, what information might you offer this prospective buyer of a flintlock muzzleloader?

Title: Re: Flintlock Muzzleloaders
Post by: Bro. Noble on April 13, 2004, 12:04:54 PM
BC,

I agree with you on the style of muzzle loaders.  My son bought a Hawkins style percussion rifle from Cabellas.  They sell the same in flintlock.  It is well made, attractive,  authentic accurate,  and reasonably priced.  If I were buying one,  that's what I'd get.
Title: Re: Flintlock Muzzleloaders
Post by: BCCrouch on April 13, 2004, 06:51:35 PM


LINK (http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/horizontal-item.jhtm%20l?id=0006567210054a&navAction=push&navCount=3&indexId=cat20815&podId=0006567&catalogCode=XD&parentId=cat20815&parentType=index&rid=&_DARGS=%2Fcabelas%2Fen%2Fcommon%2Fcatalog%2Fitem-link.jhtml_A&_DAV=MainCatcat20712&hasJS=true)

Quite a difference in price...
Title: Re: Flintlock Muzzleloaders
Post by: beenthere on April 13, 2004, 09:23:09 PM
That's interesting. Thanks
Title: Re: Flintlock Muzzleloaders
Post by: BCCrouch on April 14, 2004, 04:19:38 PM
QuoteThat's interesting. Thanks

You're welcome.  Might anyone else have anything to add?  
Title: Re: Flintlock Muzzleloaders
Post by: Frickman on April 14, 2004, 06:40:53 PM
I've done a little muzzle loader hunting myself. I have a Thompson Center Hawkin, .50 caliber, flintlock. Beautiful gun, gorgeous walnut stock, shoots reasonably well, heaviest thing you ever carried up a mountainside. The lock isn't the best, I've had alot of misfires at all the wrong times. This gun was purchased from a fellow who had built it from a kit. I guess he didn't like carrying it over the mountains either.

Someday I'm going to get a custom or semi custom-made Pennsylvania-style flintlock. I'm not to concerned with looks, just fit and reliability. I've shot a few Pennsylvania-style rifles in the past, and have found them the easiest and most accurate guns I've ever shot offhand with open sights. That includes modern firearms. There just seems to be something in their proportions and balance that makes them very comfortable to shoot. That's my next project after I get an LT70 mizer.
Title: Re: Flintlock Muzzleloaders
Post by: Tobacco Plug on April 24, 2004, 10:38:57 AM
Well, it all depends on what you want to use the flintlock for.  A rifle is of course great for deer and squirrels.  A smoothbore fowler would be just perfect for upland game.  Do you have an interest in historical reenacting?  Perhaps a Brown Bess musket would be in order.  Yes, it is a smoothbore, but a buckshot and ball load is deadly on deer, and with a lot of experimenting on loads, it would be a usable gun for upland game or waterfowl when loaded with shot.  There are many good gunmakers out there who will build you a fine rifle or fowler, just be prepared to pay the price.  Fowlers made by larger manufacturers are not all that common, though.  One good place to look is Muzzleloader magazine.  Plenty of good information there.
Title: Re: Flintlock Muzzleloaders
Post by: Fla._Deadheader on April 25, 2004, 12:21:18 PM
  If yer into re-enactment, I got started making Spanish MatchLock "Sporting Rifles", a while back. The original was found in a well in St. Augustine. Dated back to the 1500's. This model was shorter and lighter than a Musket.

  Made the tapered octagon barrel and bored it to 50 caliber, round ball. Has a scope and front blade sight. Every part is hand made.

(https://forestryforum.com/images/03_21_04/match3.jpg)

(https://forestryforum.com/images/03_21_04/match4.jpg)

Title: Re: Flintlock Muzzleloaders
Post by: Frickman on April 25, 2004, 07:03:00 PM
Good looking gun FlaDead. What kind of wood is the stock? It looks like cherry to me. I don't see any worm holes. Don't you use your salvaged treasure, or do you just sell it?
Title: Re: Flintlock Muzzleloaders
Post by: Fla._Deadheader on April 25, 2004, 08:24:37 PM
Cherry it is. We get Pine and Cypress. Sell it. Don'T get GOOD Cherry down here. It's Wild Black Cherry, and won't usually get very big.