I had not flown in over 30 years and certainly knew about the "no knife on an airplane" rule/restriction, so none of my knives were allowed to go to Hawaii. This thread is not about the reasons for/against, but about being "without a knife".
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My knives have changed dramatically over the years and will certainly change more in time, but for now, at least two of the above are always with me. They are simply tools and very useful in my daily activities. Pat carries a small locking folder in her purse.
I was already out of my comfort zone by having empty pockets, but having nothing to cut with. :o I split and packaged my daily meds, but Pat forgot the splitting part. How the heck do you split a pill without something sharp??
Those plastic things that secure the tags to clothing. Some can be pulled apart, but some are really a chore. Several of the stores had scissors and ask if you wanted them snipped, but some did not.
A fingernail needed attention and my Leatherman Micra has scissors and a fingernail file but it was 4600 miles away.
I had clearly exceeded my comfort level by being without a knife. :-\
I always take my Swiss Army knife. It just goes in my checked luggage.
As Den mentioned, you can always carry one in your checked bag. If you are going to another country, you need to check the local laws. Some countries won't let you bring one in and some limit the type you can bring.
MM
I believe you can put them in your checked luggage, just not your carry-on.
But then, some touristy places have scanners that one has to go through, and a knife might set it off.
Sorry state of affairs we have experienced over the changing years.
Yup, but we had no checked luggage. Everything was "carry on". That plus boarding the ship had the same security checks that the airport has.
How does one exist without a knife. They even carried a sharp rock in the stone age. ;D
Yep, know how you feel. lost my swiss army knife to the friendly TSA folks, totally forgot it was in my pocket. I don't even feel it, because its always there. I'd had that knife for a long time, of course they don't make that model anymore.. I'd like to see some of these people today try to live without their "smart" phones.
I carry a Leatherman Wingman, a folding boxcutter (mainly for baling twine) and my 4" cresent EVERYWHERE that I go and would be at a total loss without any of the 3. I'm not sure what I'll do when I have to go to California this summer.
About 20 years ago I was going to a county fair in Yuba City, Ca. and they had wand scanners and were taking everyones knives. If not for my girlfriend and 3 kids I certainly would have turned around and left.
Allan
Our county courthouse does not allow knives inside and has a metal detector to insure one does not come in. They make you take it back to your car.
As luck would have it I had courthouse business to do a few years ago. The courthouse garage was closed for construction so I had to park miles away on a day when it was over 100 degrees. When I got to the door, I remembered my little knife was still in my pocket...not a problem. I snuck behind some bushes and hid my knife intending to retrieve it when I finished my business. When I walked out the courthouse door, I was surrounded by the SWAT team...well maybe two over aged fat security guards, wanting to know as to what I hid in the bushes. Interrogation lasted for 10 minutes until I convinced them I was not a terrorist. They probably put my name on the no fly list from that trick. ;D
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I'm lost without my Leatherman Kick. I left it in the processor yesterday afternoon and missed it all last evening. It got clipped to my pocket as soon as I climbed in cab and before I sat in the seat this morning. When I was kid and used to fly to Fla in the winter to see my grandparents my Old Timer went in the checked bags. Went to a concert once upon a time and the security guard told me to throw it in the trash can along with cameras, booze, and other stuff that was prohibited then that others had tossed. I told him what he could do and walked back out to the truck and put it in cab. Pretty hard to ban cameras from anywhere now that everybody has one in their phone.
I've always carried a knife, not a big one but none the less, a knife.
Now, with the sawmill, I would be lost without it!
With Seven Billion Wacko's to deal with, who can you really trust! The people that are respondible for this are not the working man such as farmers, stevadors,commercial
fisherman, lumber jacks, or anyone else using his hands and mind. I'll change this to,
too lazy to work and on the DOLE! TSA got one of mine once, I now make sure to be
clean. Joke, now in New York State if you have ten quart pressure cooker your breaking the law if you put more than seven quarts in it!??????
Always have my swiss army farmer in one pocket and my old timer stockman (20 years old, from when they were carbon steel and made in the USA) in the other pocket. Luckily I dont ever go anywhere my tools cant go.
I have knives as well, but I never carry one. I have one in the car and in drawers at the house. But I never carry. ;D ;)
I always (!!) have a knife in my pocket. I have several 'every day carries', and if you can catch me without a knife in my pocket, it will be a rare occasion. I also collect knives and I am a life member of the Case Collectors Club. I like working knives, rather than a show knife, but I do have a number of show knives too. I do have a number of different brands in my collection. Your life can depend on having a knife. I'll always be prepared. ;D
Norm
I hear you TLS!
Dumb laws. ::)
Not long ago there was another post simalar to this one, everyone loves knives. Some are gifts some are thier grandpappy's etc. Coinscidence? We are headed to the smokey mts. this summer, so my better half calls the chamber of commerce for some info, the next thing ya know I get a catalog of knives " Smokey mtn.knife co." I think. A knife for every occassion, and a thick Catalog. There is one post was from a guy, I can"t remember employer or employee but if you carried a knife you would make 10 cents more per hr. because you were worth more. I have been carrying A knife since I was 10. Have bucks, gerber, case, leathermans, cheapo's, cheapee's. For the last 5 yrs. I have the Smith and wesson special ops, I thought ," this ain't gonna last week" Guess I was wrong. Lazerdan Knife Connoissueur
I suppose I've had some form of pocket knife since I was 9 or 10 .It's just a tool not a weapon . My favorite is a stockman style 3 blade carbon steel .
I've also stowed it in the stowed baggage on air plane flights ,no problem .
My knives I have are Gerber, Frost and something else I can't recall. But I only use one once or twice a year. One use is making a stylus pen out of a piece of rock maple stem for the touch screen on the GPS. I lost those company styluses years ago. A good rock maple stylus I never loose. :D :D I just don't have much need for a knife since I don't hunt or fish anymore. My saws have files, screw drivers wrenches, I cut weed whacker line with trimmers. Really never need one. I don't live in fear and I'm not too scared of bears and moose. Which a knife may or may not do much good if the bear slaps ya one with a paw before he bites. ;)
I was wondering if that guy with the knife and his 10 cent raise meant that the guy with a smoke in his hand lost his 10 cents standing outside the building for 15 minutes an hour for a drag? Same logic. ;)
I think it should be a law that everyone has to have a knife to get on the airplane. Because when one person threatens the lives of others on a airplane, watch what instincts do.
I would like to know where they put the trash can out at the end of a shift at the airport. Now that would be a dumpster dive worth taking!!! ;D
I am pretty sure the gov't puts them all in big bins and sells them off. I have seen big triwall pallets full of them up for sale.
In the Orlando airport and they have a handy box where you could package up your non-permitted item, weigh it, add postage, and ship it to yourself.
They installed this handy box on the "secure" side of TSA checkpoint. Just past the bench you sit on to put your shoes back on. Well past the point where your knife is confiscated.
The TSA recently announced that small knifes would be permitted, however they just rescinded that announcement.
If you are skilled enough to take down an airplane with nail clippers, then you do not need the nail clippers to take down the plane.
MM, To be without a knife I think is a Southern thing. I don't fly anymore. Corse I will not be going anywhere but where I can drive. I know, I'm dull. Cruise Ships, told wife, it won't happen least while I'm alive. Ya'll find out she took me after I'm dead, know I will haunt her till her dying day! :D :D :D
I don't think a day goes by that I don't use my Leatherman several times' I would be lost without it.
A knife is a tool for me I'm never without one .I'm an electrician so it's kind of a neccessary item unless I skin wire with my teeth . I'm tough but I'm not that tough .
If you look on flea bay every so often you can find job lots of knives all stuff from the airlines .A lot of Swiss Army style knives probabley made in China like everything else .
Now this arises a good question .How pray tell would Swampish clean under his finger nails before he picked his nose without a knife? ???
I think MagicMan had this problem once in CO once
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When I get up in the morning and put my pants on the wallet/knife/phone go in their pockets first thing. I find myself using my little knife all the time for opening packages, cutting twine, scraping at things, prying stuff, cleaning under my nails, etc. I would be lost without that simple tool.
Quote from: Al_Smith on April 24, 2013, 08:36:15 PM
Now this arises a good question .How pray tell would Swampish clean under his finger nails before he picked his nose without a knife? ???
Finger nail on his other hand. 8)
A Buck for coarse , risky work. An Old Timer muskrat for fine, sharp work ( and occaisional self surgery) and a brass Zippo.
Doesn't feel right to not have them all on me. Wonder what the shrinks say why we're like that?
Quote from: Compensation on April 24, 2013, 07:22:17 PM
I think it should be a law that everyone has to have a knife to get on the airplane. Because when one person threatens the lives of others on a airplane, watch what instincts do.
I have a friend who is a lifelong harley davidson rider, is in a club and lives the life of a biker, he goes to all the rallies
and say they are very safe. the reason why? everyone there has a gun or knife on them. no one starts any trouble
Quote from: Lud on April 25, 2013, 07:08:27 AM
A Buck for coarse , risky work. An Old Timer muskrat for fine, sharp work ( and occaisional self surgery) and a brass Zippo.
I had to give up on those Zippos years ago .They always seemed to leak just enough to about burn my leg off .
I've got a 4" engraved rosewood Buck folding hunter the apprenticeship class of 1982 gave to me a token of appriciation for being their instructor .My every day knife is also an Old Timer. I'm not even sure you can get carbon steel any more .People have a thing for 410 stainless but I personally think good carbon steel makes a much better blade --old school ;)
Quote from: Al_Smith on April 24, 2013, 08:31:24 PM
A knife is a tool for me I'm never without one .I'm an electrician so it's kind of a neccessary item unless I skin wire with my teeth . I'm tough but I'm not that tough .
If you look on flea bay every so often you can find job lots of knives all stuff from the airlines .A lot of Swiss Army style knives probabley made in China like everything else .
I tried stripping wire with my teeth. Didn't get a good clean edge and my dentist said floss would work better... :D
Utility knife in the toolbox and a wire stripper for other times. Works fine. I just fixed the wiring on an old lamp, no knife required. ;)
Flashlight, lighter and knife in right front pocket most of the time. For polite society I will leave the knife in the vehicle, if I think there may be a search. Make light, make fire, make dead, although with the size of knife I carry it would have to be a very small thing that needed to be dead. Maybe it should be " make light, make fire, make irritated."
I had to make a visit to a state office yesterday. I left the knives at home just in case they had a guard and "basket". Thankfully, there was neither. If you visit our local Social Security office, they have a guard but no basket. The knife has to stay in the car.
I think any more just about any governmental establishments are rather picky on what they consider a weapon .
Although I might add I did have my knife with me years ago in a state prison of which I was preforming work not incarcerated in case anyone wondered .
I think I am more likely to forget pants than a knife... I use a Swiss Army knife, of the forestry style that has the saw on it. I swear, I use the saw more than anything else.
But the awl is incredibly useful, and so is the screwdriver attachment.
I will say though, I have had better knives for sharpening, I tend to have to use a diamond whet stone, or nothing happens.
My Swiss army knife is like the American Express Card, I don't leave home without it.
Took it to the Carrier dome in Syracuse NY to a basketball game, the wand picked it up and I had to surrender it, but was able to get it back after the game.
Had to be accompanied by a staff person to the reclaim area and then to the outside.
they only started this after the Newtown tragedy.
I hate flying and since being retired I drive as much as I can. I've been carrying a pocket knife since 6th grade and am lost without my knife. Since '76 I've carried a Case peanut. I also carry either a Buck 110 lockback or a Leatherman depending on where I'm going and what I plan to do, but I'm rarely without my knife. In fact, I don't understand why someone wouldn't carry a knife. It's a tool and can cut string, slice tape, open boxes, sharpen a stick, cut cable ties and much more. 8)
You can even make a spoon when needed. ;)
To tell you how long it's been, the last time I flew was in '99, I think. I always have my Gerber Multi-tool on my belt. I was out in Oregon and had to fly home to Arkansas because my mom went into the hospital. I was in the metal detector line in Portland and took it off, along with my belt, wallet on a chain and emptied my pockets. The TSA guy took it out of the case, looked at it, put it back in the case and handed it back to me. I put it back on my belt and went to the plane. He didn't look at it twice... Those were the days of more intelligence (common sense).
LeeB, that made me chuckle. And my knife could've done that, but it didn't. When I asked if there was a spoon for me, Tom tossed me his Case Trapper and said, "You'll have to make yourself one." :)
Quote from: CHARLIE on April 29, 2013, 12:27:22 AMIt's a tool and can cut string, slice tape, open boxes, sharpen a stick, cut cable ties and much more. 8)
Stuff needs cutting. ;D
Quote from: CHARLIE on May 02, 2013, 12:39:30 AM
LeeB, that made me chuckle. And my knife could've done that, but it didn't. When I asked if there was a spoon for me, Tom tossed me his Case Trapper and said, "You'll have to make yourself one." :)
I'm glad you got a laugh. I hesitated to post it. Sometimes memories can be painful.
I love to talk about and share any of the memories that I have of my only Brother. I lost Sam 29 years ago.
Losing a sibling is hard. Hardest loss I have ever dealt with.