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General Forestry => Forestry and Logging => Topic started by: Lnewman on May 10, 2013, 06:45:23 AM

Title: Log rules
Post by: Lnewman on May 10, 2013, 06:45:23 AM
I have some White Pine to sell --about 10 logs.  In estimating the board feet what log rule should I use?
Title: Re: Log rules
Post by: Ron Wenrich on May 10, 2013, 06:49:41 AM
Depends on who you send it to.  Most guys in my area of PA use the Doyle rule.  I do know of a few that use the Scribner rule, and they tend to be in areas with logs that are smaller than what we generally cut. 
Title: Re: Log rules
Post by: Corley5 on May 10, 2013, 07:54:32 AM
Sell on Scribner.  Buy on Doyle.  That's the old saying around here anyway.  Most feel International is the fairest but it is seldom used in transactions except for State timber sales.
Title: Re: Log rules
Post by: thecfarm on May 10, 2013, 08:05:14 AM
International was used when I sold logs about 15 years ago here in Maine. I see things are differant in other states.
Title: Re: Log rules
Post by: rooster 58 on May 10, 2013, 08:20:52 AM
    As Ron said, around here just about everyone uses Doyle, even the U.S.F.S.
Title: Re: Log rules
Post by: thenorthman on May 10, 2013, 10:01:53 AM
Call the mill, ask what they are using, there the ones buying it
Title: Re: Log rules
Post by: LeakyBoot on May 14, 2013, 04:26:47 PM
I always bought on International.  I just didn't feel right cheating a guy on small logs on Doyle.    I knew what they would saw and it was closer to International even if you hit a bad one now and then.  LB
Title: Re: Log rules
Post by: MEloggah on May 14, 2013, 04:33:49 PM
its ben international here my whole life.
Title: Re: Log rules
Post by: GAB on May 15, 2013, 09:54:25 PM
In Vermont, I was told that it is recommended that all transactions be done using either the Vermont log rule or the International 1/4" rule, and that the Doyle scale is frowned upon in all the New England states.
The statement that I heard was "Buy on Doyle and sell on boardfootage".
I sawed a stack of logs for a fellow and measured all the logs as they were loaded on the mill.  No allowances were made for sweep or other defects.  I'm going from memory but if I remember correctly using the Doyle scale there was like 5200 board feet of lumber.  Using the Int 1/4 scale there were like 7800 board feet, and I sawed 9200+ boardfeet of lumber.  Note there were quite a few small logs. 
Hope this helps.  Gerald