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Title: Cedar Cookies
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on October 24, 2013, 07:41:39 PM
I sawed a few Cedar cookies from an old dried log yesterday. MC in the center of the cookies are 11%.
I sanded a cookie down last night and added 3 legs for a foot stole.

In the picture, you see Poly that has just been brushed on the cookie.

Problem to me.....this wood is sucking up Poly F A S T ! I have put on 8 coats and it keeps soaking in.
How long will this go on before I can get a shiny finish? Is there something I can apply to seal the wood and THEN add more Poly.


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Here is are pics just before I applied the first coat of Poly.


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Title: Re: Cedar Cookies
Post by: mmartone on October 24, 2013, 08:46:46 PM
More poly
Title: Re: Cedar Cookies
Post by: goose63 on October 24, 2013, 09:07:51 PM
don't know what you can put on it but I think it would look mighty good in front of my recliner  8) :snowball:
Title: Re: Cedar Cookies
Post by: jueston on October 24, 2013, 09:12:24 PM
Quote from: mmartone on October 24, 2013, 08:46:46 PM
More poly

X2
If the poly won't seal it. Nothing will.
Title: Re: Cedar Cookies
Post by: Axe Handle Hound on October 24, 2013, 10:17:51 PM
Glue size.  Mix ordinary white glue with water at about a 1:10 ratio, maybe a bit higher for something as porous as that cedar you're working on.  Brush it on, let it dry, and then sand lightly to smooth the surface.  If you sand aggressively you'll end up sanding off all your sealer and you'll likely melt the glue from the heat generated by the friction and clog up your sandpaper.   If you prefer stinky, smelly epoxy (I have a thing about epoxy) you could try smearing some across the face and then sand in a similar fashion when it cures, but it's likely going to require a lot of elbow grease to smooth out.
Title: Re: Cedar Cookies
Post by: Magicman on October 24, 2013, 10:30:31 PM
Sanding Sealer.  It should have gone on first, but I think that you will be OK between coats.   Next time, Sanding Sealer first.
Title: Re: Cedar Cookies
Post by: WDH on October 24, 2013, 11:38:17 PM
If you sand it very fine, going thru the grits from 80 to 150 to 220, then buff with 0000 steel wool, that should do it.  More work, though.
Title: Re: Cedar Cookies
Post by: downsouth on October 25, 2013, 01:32:13 PM
That cookie sure would have made a nice looking clock!
The stool looks good also.
Title: Re: Cedar Cookies
Post by: Wick on October 25, 2013, 04:11:50 PM
That poly cookie stool looks great. But I'm in the market for some wide devil wood mantles.
Title: Re: Cedar Cookies
Post by: Lud on October 25, 2013, 05:25:05 PM
You might have used CA but I think the white glue wash was the most economical option. 8)
Title: Re: Cedar Cookies
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on October 25, 2013, 08:35:14 PM
Quote from: Wick on October 25, 2013, 04:11:50 PM
...... But I'm in the market for some wide devil wood mantles.

I hear ya Wick. I picked up on ya. You been doing some reading.  smiley_thumbsup
Title: Re: Cedar Cookies
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on October 27, 2013, 07:12:01 PM
Quote from: Magicman on October 24, 2013, 10:30:31 PM
Sanding Sealer.  It should have gone on first, but I think that you will be OK between coats.   Next time, Sanding Sealer first.

Took your advice Magic.
I finished up ANOTHER stool this afternoon.
After completing the sanding on the Cedar cookie, I applied 2 coats in 2 hours of "CABOT" sanding sealer. I'm applying Poly now without any problems.
That sanding sealer cured the problem of that thirsty, Poly drinking Cookie.  smiley_thumbsup
Title: Re: Cedar Cookies
Post by: lowpolyjoe on October 27, 2013, 08:34:57 PM
Wow... beautiful color  :o
Title: Re: Cedar Cookies
Post by: Wick on October 28, 2013, 09:08:43 AM
 :D Can't get nothing by you  whiteflag_smiley
Title: Re: Cedar Cookies
Post by: grweldon on October 28, 2013, 11:07:20 AM
In case you might want to try it, shellac is also a sealer and any topcoat can be sprayed over it.  The nice thing about it is that you can thin it to almost any consistance (with denatured alcohol) and it will still work!
Title: Re: Cedar Cookies
Post by: Axe Handle Hound on October 28, 2013, 02:31:25 PM
Very true provided it's dewaxed shellac.  The amber shellac typically found at home centers is not dewaxed and topcoats won't bond properly to it. 
Title: Re: Cedar Cookies
Post by: grweldon on October 29, 2013, 03:14:00 PM
Yep... forgot about that...  I usually use blonde...
Title: Re: Cedar Cookies
Post by: m wood on October 31, 2013, 02:32:41 AM
Oh David, seems we got the poly thirst solved.  Any chance of a closer look at the legs and under side?  I see tenons coming clear through.  They look like some "cool" crookedy sticks under there.
Title: Re: Cedar Cookies
Post by: epiphoneprs on January 08, 2014, 12:05:45 AM
Would you mind telling me how you attach those legs?
Title: Re: Cedar Cookies
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on January 08, 2014, 09:38:05 AM
Quote from: epiphoneprs on January 08, 2014, 12:05:45 AM
Would you mind telling me how you attach those legs?

Be glad to.
I first turn the seat upside down.
I then use GORILLA GLUE (the gooey stuff) to glue each leg in place.
Later after the glue dries......I will angle 2 small wood screws (about 3 inches long) through the side of each leg in to the bottom of the seat. This just firmly holds each leg in place and gives more stability.
I then turn the stool up right and pre-drill holes over each leg through the seat only. I want to counter sink the bolt heads.
Then I just screw the lag bolts through the seat down into each leg.

I make sure the pre-drilled hole through the seat is a little larger that the lag bolt so it won't crack the Cedar Cookie.
When this is done, just plug each hole where the bolt went in and sand it down flush.

If need be, you can also pre-drill down into the leg also if you think your leg may split also.

Then take the stool to the mill.....turn it upside down and clamp it.....then saw the legs off flush.
The stool will set true then.
Title: Re: Cedar Cookies
Post by: grweldon on January 08, 2014, 10:24:15 AM
Those legs aren't going ANYWHERE!  Very nice!
Title: Re: Cedar Cookies
Post by: Andy White on January 08, 2014, 10:42:24 AM
David
That is some really good looking Cedar Cookies!! I gotta find me some of that to attack! I also like your freestyle methods. I have trouble envisioning anything that is not square and flat. Outstanding job!    Andy
Title: Re: Cedar Cookies
Post by: WDH on January 08, 2014, 09:16:43 PM
For a man who has broomsedge growing on his fireplace mantle, he does pretty good. 
Title: Re: Cedar Cookies
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on January 08, 2014, 09:20:31 PM
Quote from: WDH on January 08, 2014, 09:16:43 PM
For a man who has broomsedge growing on his fireplace mantle, he does pretty good.

The wife said I used to have broom sedge on my face too.  :D
Title: Re: Cedar Cookies
Post by: WDH on January 08, 2014, 09:44:26 PM
I have some stuff that will kill it.  I could send you some.
Title: Re: Cedar Cookies
Post by: Magicman on January 08, 2014, 09:50:27 PM
Quote from: WDH on January 08, 2014, 09:44:26 PM
I have some stuff that will kill it.  I could send you some.
You sure that it will not blister his face.   :o
Title: Re: Cedar Cookies
Post by: WDH on January 08, 2014, 09:51:18 PM
What are a few blisters to worry about  ???. 
Title: Re: Cedar Cookies
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on January 08, 2014, 09:53:03 PM
Quote from: Magicman on January 08, 2014, 09:50:27 PM
Quote from: WDH on January 08, 2014, 09:44:26 PM
I have some stuff that will kill it.  I could send you some.
You sure that it will not blister his face.   :o

My face has been blistered for the past 3 days. And my jugs are now bricks.  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Cedar Cookies
Post by: Magicman on January 08, 2014, 09:57:02 PM
We are talking about your mug.  What you do with your jugs is your business.   :o
Title: Re: Cedar Cookies
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on January 08, 2014, 09:58:04 PM
Quote from: Magicman on January 08, 2014, 09:57:02 PM
We are talking about your mug.  What you do with your jugs is your business.   :o

:D :D :D :D :D