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Title: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: MRowsh on December 02, 2013, 09:58:36 AM
Just wow!  What a massive saw mill.  At last I got my Saw Mill LogMaster LM2 delivered late yesterday afternoon.  Herman Gibson himself delivered it. He tow it from Texas with his wife. He spend few hours teaching me few things about the mill, specially all the safety issues to consider. He asked me to do few things without loading log on the top and give me few tips.  My ground was not level so my first priority is to level a long patch of ground for it before putting it to use. We had to get few 6X6 to place under few of the jacks to level it off in order to do some practice. One side tires were off the ground and he mentioned that the tires should stay on the ground to provide some support. There are 8 5000 lbs jacks, 4 on each side of it.
I could not believe how long this rig is. I asked him, this suppose to cut 21.5 feet longs, but it seams much longer.
He explained that the 3X6 quarter inch thick steel beems he used for frame comes this long when he gets them, and he prefer to give it free of charge to his customers than cutting it and selling it as scrap metal for 8 cents per pound. So, my saw will cut almost 26 feet logs as it came. Wow, what a deal!! Now that is a good human being and decent American. He could have cut it out, but he choose to be good.
The saw wheels are so massive, they are much bigger than any saw mill I had seen, of course I never has seen Log Master saws before yesterday afternoon. I have to get few pictures and post them here, when I make it home after work today.

I think I got a good saw mill.
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: thecfarm on December 02, 2013, 10:01:23 AM
Oh what a feeling. Watch them log stops.  :o
You will be able to put a 16 footer anyways on that mill. Gives you more room to get the head out of the way.
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: dboyt on December 02, 2013, 10:27:16 AM
Now, you just need some 26' trees, a way to handle the logs & lumber, and a customer!  Beams and trailer decking might keep you busy.  I bet you can set yourself up a niche market for long timbers.  Not many people can cut that long.  Looking forward to the photos!
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: scsmith42 on December 02, 2013, 01:36:25 PM
Mehdi, congrats on your new mill!  I'm going to have to make it a point to stop by and drool over it!

Scott
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: MRowsh on December 02, 2013, 01:42:21 PM
Yes, I highly recommend you stop by. That way, I just can hand you the seasoning.
I think it is good for you to see it, because you have seen few of them and I would like to see what you think of this.
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: hunz on December 02, 2013, 01:53:00 PM
Would love to see some pictures, congrats on the new mill!
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: drobertson on December 02, 2013, 01:55:55 PM
Good mill you have!  Congrats!    david
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Post by: Chuck White on December 02, 2013, 01:59:22 PM
Congratulations on the new mill!
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: m wood on December 02, 2013, 04:09:37 PM
congratulations mrowsh.  I remember when you first posted about the logmaster you ordered.  I think I looked it up and was amazed at how burrrrly it looked.  way to go!
mark
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 02, 2013, 06:26:14 PM
Good for you , now some pics  8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: MRowsh on December 02, 2013, 07:34:55 PM
Thanks much for all the good notes.  Here are few pictures I took for your vie

 (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/33328/LM2__1.jpg) 

 (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/33328/LM2__2.jpg) 

 (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/33328/LM2__5.jpg) 

 (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/33328/LM2__9.jpg) 

 (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/33328/LM2__6.jpg) 

 (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/33328/LM2__14.jpg) 

 (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/33328/LM2__12.jpg) 

 (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/33328/LM2__17.jpg) 

 (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/33328/LM2__16.jpg) 

 (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/33328/LM2__13.jpg) wing.
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: MRowsh on December 02, 2013, 07:39:15 PM
A couple of more pictures.


 (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/33328/LM2__4.jpg) 

 (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/33328/LM2__11.jpg) 

 (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/33328/LM2__15.jpg)
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: Magicman on December 02, 2013, 07:43:43 PM
Congratulations my Friend.  I am anxious to see the next pictures covered with sawdust.   ;D
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: MRowsh on December 02, 2013, 08:03:26 PM
As of now, I have no clue where to make a level area for it. It is about 38 feet long!  I have to drop down the trees in that area that I had planed to build a shed for it. Not a small task at hand!!  As of now in order to have it level to practice the functions without log on it, all four tires are up in the air. Therefore, I am not going to load it with a heavy log.  There is a lot for me to learn first before my first cutting time, but I am going to enjoy it.
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: Dave Shepard on December 02, 2013, 08:08:08 PM
Be careful when planning your new flat spot for your mill. So far, for my flat spot, I have moved 400 yards of overburden (with another 300 to go in the spring), 1,035 yards of gravel, and 20 yards of crushed stone, not to mention a fair number of stumps and largish rocks. :D

Congrats on your new mill.  8)
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: thecfarm on December 02, 2013, 08:15:50 PM
I brought in 2-3-4 loads of gravel for my mill. I put mine at a bottom of a small hill. the uphill side is level,for stacking lumber,the downhill side drops off and that is my log side. I built a place to put a few logs on.



 (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10436/thecfarm2012sawmill.jpg)

You can't see but past those logs in waiting,it drops off a few feet. But does keep me out of the water in the time of year this picture was taken. The flat stock is laid across and I roll the logs on to the mill. I know you won't be rolling many logs on your mill with a peavey.   ;D



Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: m wood on December 02, 2013, 08:21:23 PM
saweeet!  even though your not in the pics...I can see your mile wide smile from here.
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: WDH on December 02, 2013, 09:21:42 PM
That is a fine looking mill. 
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: arnold113 on December 02, 2013, 10:02:05 PM
Congratulations mrowsh  Looks like a keeper.  Good luck
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: Furu on December 03, 2013, 12:12:30 AM
Nice looking mill.  That will be a lot of fun running.
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: customsawyer on December 03, 2013, 03:36:27 AM
That is a nice looking mill. How long is the blade on it?
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 03, 2013, 06:02:32 AM
Nice, and thanks for the pics
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: Seaman on December 03, 2013, 06:21:53 AM
That is awesome!
Frank
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: MRowsh on December 03, 2013, 08:20:13 AM
Length of the blade is 229 inches, which is 1-1/4″ bandsaw blade by 19'1″ long.
I also got 4 boxes of 6 each blades for it with it. I thought 24 extra blades should cover all my incoming mistakes.
I did also bought a metal detector. Tested it on my shooting range and notices it sure can pick up smallest pieces of metalic objects.

About making a flat area; just thinking about it , my shoulders pain much  more.
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: Deese on December 03, 2013, 09:39:47 AM
HOLY MOLEY!!!
THAT MILL LOOKS BAD TO THE BONE :o :o :o :o
CONGRATS ON THE NEW MILL AND GOOD LUCK :) :) :)
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: GDinMaine on December 03, 2013, 01:04:29 PM
If you don't have a tractor the best thing you could do is to rent/hire and excavator.  It will make very quick work of pulling out stumps and leveling ground.  Then buy gravel as needed to fill in the areas where mill, truck, trailer and other equipment might go.  I would suggest to leave enough room on both sides for moving logs/lumber/slabs.  You will quickly run out of room anyway and will think of expanding the area. 

This first picture was taken in October of 2012 before I started clearing for my mill site.
Luckily there were no big trees in the area and the one you still see in second picture I wanted to keep.



 (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/24706/Mill1sm%7E0.jpg)


The photo below was taken in October of 2013. 
I have about 8" of gravel under the mill and where you can see the trailer on the left.  There is a lane of gravel under the area where the tractor is, so a truck and trailer can come down there with logs, unload and back out.  There is no gravel between the tractor and the mill, just skids under the the logs.  All the work was done with the tractor you see in the pictures. I don't take on large jobs at my house, so this is big enough for me.  A shed is coming in the next couple of years. 



 (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/24706/Mill_site4sm.jpg)
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: rmack on December 03, 2013, 01:28:10 PM
Fine looking machine  8)

how many horsepower?
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: m wood on December 03, 2013, 03:56:29 PM
if that is your deere i see in the pictures, it will do the job for ya
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: Sixacresand on December 03, 2013, 04:55:45 PM
Congrats, MRowsh.  Have fun. 
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: MRowsh on December 03, 2013, 07:09:28 PM
Thanks much for all the good wishes and good comments.

Engine =  38 HP Kohler 2 cylinder air cooled gas engine.

Yes, the backhoe will do the job.

Gravel or washed stone #5 is what I have to use. Possibly about 5 truck loads of it. $350 per truck load delivered.
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: JSwigga on December 03, 2013, 07:42:26 PM
Whats the throat size between the guides on the LM2?  I'm in the market for a mill
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: MRowsh on December 03, 2013, 08:35:39 PM
JSwigga
I have to measure it tomorrow, but it is about 29 inches if I recall correctly.
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: JSwigga on December 03, 2013, 08:39:13 PM
It's a fine looking mill. 8)  I'm going to call Logmaster tomorrow.
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: Dad2FourWI on December 03, 2013, 08:49:51 PM
Very nice looking mill!!!!

As for the size of the clearing for the mill, etc..... you are far better with too big of a space than too tight!!!

I keep going back and making my working area larger and larger!!!! LOL!!!

I look forward to seeing your progress!

-Dad2FourWI
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: MRowsh on December 04, 2013, 07:42:56 AM
This morning before heading out, I took 3 feet straight edge and measured the maximum cutting width, it is 30 inches wide. But it can handle 36 inch logs. So, biggest possible cant should possible be 30 inches wide.

Dad2four :  Yes, I will make as big an area as my land allows me. I am thinking of 50 feet by 70 feet area. Have to drop about 20 trees first. Taking the pine stumps out is not that fast. I took one out, and I had to ding around it at least 5 feet deep to break it off. The tap root was so deep in there!!  I had no idea.
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: MRowsh on December 04, 2013, 05:57:55 PM
I measured between the saw blade rollers for maximum possible cut width. It is 29.5 inches.

 (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/33328/LM2_29_5_inches_cut.jpg)

And the arm can be moved all the way to 15 inches as seen here.


 (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/33328/LM2_18.jpg)
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: Dave Shepard on December 04, 2013, 06:45:59 PM
Being able to cut long stuff without having to squeeze it on just right will be nice.  :) Until someone asks you to cut something 27' long. :D
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: Delawhere Jack on December 04, 2013, 06:55:41 PM
I'm a fan of the Orange mills myself.......... but that is one Mack Daddy of a sawmill!  ;D

Happy Milling!
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: LaneC on December 04, 2013, 07:03:26 PM
Congrats on the new mill. Is this your first one? That looks like one mean machine.
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: MRowsh on December 04, 2013, 07:31:25 PM
I am color blind !! Just an old school engineer who says bigger and stronger will do just fine.  I am one of those that when few have asked why I carry 45ACP, my answer is = because there is no 46ACP!!
If I could have dished another $5k, this would include a Diesel engine on it too.

And yes, this is my first saw mill. Hope to finish my projects within 5 years and also make few Dollars with it too.
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: beenthere on December 04, 2013, 07:35:40 PM
We'll hope that it handles what it looks like it ought to handle. Time will tell, and hope you keep us posted.
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: reswire on December 04, 2013, 08:33:52 PM
Awesome mill!  Hope you have many fun filled days ahead! 8) 8)
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: MAI on December 06, 2013, 09:56:31 AM
MRowsh,
Nice looking mill.  Herman is a great guy and always a phone call away.
Have fun!
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: manoverboard on December 06, 2013, 05:22:27 PM
Awesome! Many happy years of sawing ahead!!! 8)
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: MRowsh on December 09, 2013, 09:42:22 AM
Could not work on land to start clearing a flat area for the saw work area due to weather conditions, but I did started it up without a log on it and worked with levers for a while to get the hang of it. Did the best I could with the clip here one handed. It is better than nothing for those of you who are interested.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJD5CxP7v3g&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: kensfarm on December 09, 2013, 10:33:13 AM
Hope Santa brings you some nice logs to go w/ it!  Very nice!
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: backwoods sawyer on December 09, 2013, 07:38:41 PM
The only thing I see wrong ??? is that the log supply will run out about the time you get the feel for it :-\
Looks like a good solid machine caplable of having some good production days 8) Once you get the first ding in it  :snowball: you will have quite a work horse ;D and then the logging begins :new_year:
Enjoy your sawmill 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: Migal on December 10, 2013, 09:44:23 PM
 8) MRowsh I'm a proud fellow owner of a LM 2 LogMaster as well. I love mine. Herman is a great guy as well. I visited Him in at the factory in Nacogdoches Texas. 1/2 day I was sold. Migal
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: MRowsh on December 11, 2013, 11:56:24 AM
Glad to see I am not the only one with LM2!!

How long have you have been using your LM2?  How long is your rig?
Any issues?
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: Migal on December 11, 2013, 08:26:42 PM
Next Feb will be 2 yr.'s It will saw a 24' pretty easy it will go more but why LOL I did get the 34 CAT upgrade You follow what Herman and Ed have taught You and just start out slow and steady speed will come. I use ear plugs and can hear the saw let that be a good judge as how its doing took me 6 band's to find out when they got dull LOL but they will let you know some times real fast and yes the breaking sound LOL but you'll learn watching the saw dust coming off the blade. No major issues I bought some wheel scrapper's because I didn't like how they were wearing but then I learned not to adjust them till the blade has the 6000 psi applied and the In is In and Out is Out is correct. That will be a LM owner thing. I could go on but heck just ask I'm here often.
        Migal
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: NCDiesel on December 18, 2013, 12:14:39 PM
Any of you guys that recently had LogMasters delivered:  Was there anything in your experience that, in hindsight, foreshadowed the fall of LogMaster?   Might be instructive for future buyers of mills as warning signs to look out for.

Just curious,
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: schmism on December 18, 2013, 05:50:13 PM
Quote from: JSwigga on December 03, 2013, 08:39:13 PM
It's a fine looking mill. 8)  I'm going to call Logmaster tomorrow.

did you call?   were they still taking orders at that date (dec 2?)
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: JSwigga on December 18, 2013, 07:23:05 PM
I called but no one answered and no one called back
Title: Re: Late yesterday I got my Saw Mill delivered
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on December 18, 2013, 07:34:21 PM
Quote from: JSwigga on December 18, 2013, 07:23:05 PM
I called but no one answered and no one called back

You may have been on the Christmas Contest and used "phone a friend".  :)