This weekend I was sawing a customer's pecan log and after the customary "No, there can't be any metal in it" I got down to about the third board and the saw blade started zinging with the sound we all know and hate. There were so many nails that I could have sold the log for scrap iron.
So I called the customer to describe how many nails were in his log and all I could come up with were a few technically accurate but certainly socially incorrect terms. ;D. So I checked the FF dictionary and came up empty (or at least I couldn't find anything).
Questions is: what is the technically correct and socially acceptable nomenclature for a large quantity of nails in a log? Not just one or two nails, but so many nails it looks like somebody was given a hammer for their birthday?
Herd? School? Flock? Gaggle? Nest? Bucket full? Junkyard?
Thanks for your help,
YH
Too DanG many. :D
It depends on who owns the nails. If they belong to your customer, you have found "An Inconvenience" of nails. If they belong to you, they are "An Aggravation" of nails. :)
"too many to count"
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"New Blade" came to my mind. ;D
KEG !!! ;)
YH Maybe an old school carpenter,"if one nail is good, then a bunch would be better!" So put on a new blade and saw saw saw. Andy
It it was a butt log you could indicate a butt load of nails!
You could bet a barrel of nails that is was a "Butt Load of Nails"! david
Barrel? Keg?
All these nails could drive a man to drink :D.
A "hardware store ". ?
sounds like some walnut logs i sawed awhile back....they were absolutely infested with nails. ::) :D
If I found that many nails, I would forget about the "Socially Correct" part.
Nails are bad enough, but nails and Pecan ( smiley_devil), that is just not fair :'( >:(
An infestation? I like it!
There was definitely ;D some socially unacceptable cussing going on, as this log topped off an otherwise bad day. Bama had just lost THE game and I had been wanting to get this little bitty nasty looking pecan log done for a customer, so figured I'd do something productive and work my frustrations out. I put a new blade on, cut the very first slab and it popped sideways out of the board return and dismounted the running blade in a screech of metal. Put a new blade on, made a couple of cuts and then ran into the "____" of nails. One log, two blades, 3 boards and I was done for the day...
YH
I'm afraid I don't have a suitable adjective. However ... sometimes a phrase will convey a concept much better than an adjective. When a customer asked why I hadn't sawn her log, I told her I ran my metal detector over it and "it sounded like a geiger counter at Three Mile Island". (substitute Chernobyl or Fukushimi, depending on the customer's age ;D)
Not to add salt to the wound, but seriously want to know whether you ran a metal detector over it first? If so, did it pick up the metal or not. I don't have much experience here, so I'm just trying to find out.
Timber from the mountain has it's benefits :)
Pecan does not grow in your mountains :D.
Quote from: terrifictimbersllc on December 02, 2013, 09:48:53 PM
A "hardware store ". ?
I like this one, ^^^^
"that log has more nails than a hardware store"
Quote from: Brad_bb on December 03, 2013, 12:44:43 AM
Not to add salt to the wound, but seriously want to know whether you ran a metal detector over it first? If so, did it pick up the metal or not.
Well, to add a little more snakebite to the day, I have two metal detectors, a wand and a coil. When I got ready to saw the log I checked it with the wand but found the battery was dead. So I grabbed the coil and swept it and came up with nothing. My wife commented that I had remarked earlier that I didn't trust the coil detector so why not wait until we went to the store to buy a battery for the wand? Well, me being impatient, said the famous last words "I don't want to wait, how bad can it be?' I suppose I found out.
YH
YH--If you would have taken an "extra second" to go get those batteries, you could have avoided the frustration ;D
Sorry I couldn't help myself ;D ;D
WAR EAGLE!
YH,
Now let me get this straight...
You tried to scan with a wand which works well when it has fresh batteries but found the batteries were dead, so...
You scanned with a coil, which you had previously informed your wife was in your opinion untrustworthy...
And the coil said it was clean...
And your wife (being the intelligent creature she must be to have married you...) asked if it wouldn't be a good idea to wait until you could get fresh batteries for the wand because you said you didn't trust the coil...
And you said, to misquote one of my Naval heros: "DanG the nails, full speed ahead!" since after all, how bad could it be?
Boy, I be you've been ate up with "I told you so"s from that intelligent lady.
:D :D :D :D
Herb
Quote from: Deese on December 03, 2013, 09:31:01 AM
Sorry I couldn't help myself ;D ;D
WAR EAGLE!
Mr. Moderator - we shouldn't have to tolerate actions such as this! This poster needs ban_smiley....
;)
Quote from: YellowHammer on December 03, 2013, 08:47:42 AM
I have two metal detectors, a wand and a coil...
...I had remarked earlier that I didn't trust the coil detector
I've read differing opinions on each. Is the lack of trust due to something related to your particular coil detector or would you prefer the wand regardless?
CC
It would be tempting to just say "you owe the cost of a band if it can't be sharpened". As Postonlt40hd posted recently, you will find more metal with a blade than with a metal detector.
PC- Guilty on all counts. :D All I can say was it seemed like a good idea at the time :D
CC - I prefer the wand for several reasons. The coil is a budget model that is untrustworthy, unwieldy, and a little too delicate for me. The wand is more durable, portable and generally easier and faster to use, but in all honesty, neither penetrates deep into a log so doesn't catch the deep hidden stuff. Also, the problem is that once the log is on the mill both are of limited use because there is so much metal on the mill causing false signals.
The wand would have picked up the nails in this log if it had a fresh battery.
YH
YH,
Thanks for the details. I have "shopped" for a detector for a few months now. It doesn't seem as needful now as it did then - even though I found my first nail last week. Funny thing...it was a brand new experience but I was 99% sure what it was immediately. Customer was shocked because the tree was cut in an area that had never been fenced or any reason to be concerned. We turned 180* and carefully sawed down to a couple inches without further incident. yikes_smiley
CC
A "plurality" of nails ::)
Quote from: chickenchaser on December 03, 2013, 10:02:32 PM
Customer was shocked because the tree was cut in an area that had never been fenced or any reason to be concerned.
I cut an old chestnut oak last summer that was easily half a mile deep into the woods, several miles from the nearest farm, and atop a ridge crest. No way would I ever have thought there would be metal, but sure enough it had three rows of fence in it. Nobody in the family remembers a time when it wasn't forest, but obviously at some point there was a fence up there. I quarter sawed the butt log & got the most beautiful blue/purple/black oak I have ever seen, and to ease the pain of spending 3 blades to do it, the log was curly. Still cost me 3 blades on a deep forest oak that nobody believed could have metal.
Ya know - I just thought of something:
I'm 51. Born in 1962. Skip ahead 10-12 years = 1974
I recall building a "fort" in my Dad's pine thicket. I chopped maybe 3" diameter pines and NAILED them horizontally into at least four separate "corner" pines 6" diameter - maybe larger. The structure eventually rotted over the next 5 - 10 years. Did I go back and pull the nails? smiley_angel01_halo...NOT!
February 2000 ice storm severely damaged the largest pines and somewhere around 2003 it was logged. I wonder how large those 6" pines were after another 30 years? I wonder how deep those 20d nails were embedded? Maybe those logs went for pulp... ::)
I feel so ashamed.
CC
You check the log before you put it on the mill. ::) and buy a good metal detector. You will be happier in the long run ;D
Quote from: YellowHammer on December 03, 2013, 08:47:42 AM
Well, me being impatient, said the famous last words "I don't want to wait, how bad can it be?' I suppose I found out.
YH
Well there's your problem right there!! ;)
For the record, I'm going with "a cornucopia of nails".
Cut down a box elder cut spilt for my sister in law was tree in town if I had to buy that many nail's I would have to take out a very large loan dangle_smiley
How about a "manicure" That's 10 nails, if you grew up next to a nuke plant, maybe more.
How about "plethora"? I've always liked saying that word.
Losing a blade or two is one thing, letting your wife win one once in a while is important ...... Take her out for a chicken dinner and tell her you love her!, pick up some batteries then get back to sawing and never look back. ;D
There very well may not be any term that could be socially acceptable when trying to hang a name on hitting that many nails < GRIN >, the cost of the replacement blades added to the invoice might make everyone feel better in this situation and you can always blow off some steam ..... once the mill is in the cut, put a dust mask on and yell every bad word you know at the top of your lungs till you get to the end of the log then call it good.
Old word I have heard that would relate would be a pastle or passle(not sure of that spelling) of nails.
Quotepastle or passle(not sure of that spelling) of nails
Maybe "passel"