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General Forestry => Tree, Plant and Wood I.D. => Topic started by: mesquite buckeye on December 16, 2013, 10:00:34 PM

Title: Quickie Quiz Jackpot #17
Post by: mesquite buckeye on December 16, 2013, 10:00:34 PM
Found this in the woods. Any ideas? ;D



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BTW Here is the listing of Jackpot plants and winners so far:

#1 Catclaw Acacia Acacia greggii  by WDH
#2 Giant Saguaro Carnegiea gigantea by ljohnsaw
#3 Alligator Juniper Juniperus deppeana by Jay C. White Cloud
#4 Kidneywood Eysenhardtia orthocarpa by Jay C. White Cloud
#5 Velvet Mesquite Prosopis velutina by Giant Splinter
#6 Ocotillo Fouquieria splendens by Jay C. White Cloud
#7 Sweet Acacia Acacia farnesiana by Jay C. White Cloud
#8 Red Gum Eucalyptus Eucalyptus camaldulensis by Giant Splinter
#9 American Persimmon Diospyros virginiana by WDH
#10 Arizona Madrone Arbutus arizonica by Giant Splinter
#11 Salt Cedar Tamarix pentandra by Giant Splinter
#12 Deodar Cedar Cedrus deodora by okrafarmer
#13 Mountain mahogany Cercocarpus montana by Giant Splinter
#14 Desert Ironwood Olneya tesota  by Giant Splinter
#15 Holly Leafed Buckthorn Rhamnus crocea by pabst79
#16 Hackberry Celtis occidentalis by WDH
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot #17
Post by: beenthere on December 16, 2013, 11:36:52 PM
Other than it is petrified wood, need a good pic of the end grain to go further. I have some petrified white pine that looks similar.
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot #17
Post by: giant splinter on December 17, 2013, 12:11:32 AM
I bet that would wipe out a blade very quickly.
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot #17
Post by: mesquite buckeye on December 17, 2013, 10:50:53 AM
Clue #1. Not petrified, just old. :snowball:
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot #17
Post by: mesquite buckeye on December 17, 2013, 07:38:43 PM
Clue #2, the highly sought after end grain. ;D

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The image is magnified. The vertical distance is about 1/4" wide.

Let the guessing begin. ;D 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) smiley_bounce :snowfight1: smiley_gossip smiley_eek_dropjaw smiley_eek_dropjaw smiley_eek_dropjaw smiley_eek_dropjaw smiley_eek_dropjaw dadgum you, Charlie! popcorn_smiley
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot #17
Post by: ancjr on December 17, 2013, 09:43:37 PM
Bog oak.

:D
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot #17
Post by: WDH on December 17, 2013, 09:44:18 PM
Maybe a juniper of some type. 
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot #17
Post by: mesquite buckeye on December 17, 2013, 09:57:11 PM
Quote from: ancjr on December 17, 2013, 09:43:37 PM
Bog oak.

:D

Not that. dadgum you, Charlie!
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot #17
Post by: mesquite buckeye on December 17, 2013, 09:58:05 PM
Quote from: WDH on December 17, 2013, 09:44:18 PM
Maybe a juniper of some type.

Nor that. ;D dadgum you, Charlie! dadgum you, Charlie! 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) :snowfight1:
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot #17
Post by: WDH on December 17, 2013, 10:15:21 PM
It is probably some rare desert bush that only grows at one elevation in only a handful of counties at the place where the rainbow ends  :D. 
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot #17
Post by: mesquite buckeye on December 17, 2013, 10:32:42 PM
Not that either. ;D dadgum you, Charlie! dadgum you, Charlie! dadgum you, Charlie! smiley_eek_dropjaw smiley_eek_dropjaw smiley_eek_dropjaw smiley_eek_dropjaw popcorn_smiley


That is where the burn barrel lives. ;D 8) 8) 8)



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Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot #17
Post by: mesquite buckeye on December 17, 2013, 10:33:42 PM
I'm having fun now. ;D 8) 8) 8) :snowball:
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot #17
Post by: pabst79 on December 18, 2013, 08:54:13 PM
Found in the woods? In what part of the the U.S?  :snowball:
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot #17
Post by: giant splinter on December 18, 2013, 09:16:21 PM
Tamarisk
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot #17
Post by: mesquite buckeye on December 18, 2013, 09:34:09 PM
It was indeed in the US. ;D
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot #17
Post by: mesquite buckeye on December 18, 2013, 09:36:04 PM
Quote from: giant splinter on December 18, 2013, 09:16:21 PM
Tamarisk

Sadly, it is not that. :(  no_no smiley_eek_dropjaw dadgum you, Charlie! dadgum you, Charlie! dadgum you, Charlie! dadgum you, Charlie! dadgum you, Charlie! logrite_cool popcorn_smiley
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot #17
Post by: mesquite buckeye on December 18, 2013, 09:42:17 PM
Clue #3: Look again just below Clue #2. ;D laugh_at  :snowfight1: dadgum you, Charlie! popcorn_smiley
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot #17
Post by: giant splinter on December 18, 2013, 09:51:43 PM
by the looks of the way it dried out it must be a Mesquite
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot #17
Post by: mesquite buckeye on December 18, 2013, 09:54:57 PM
Even more sadly, it is not that one also. :'(
dadgum you, Charlie! dadgum you, Charlie! dadgum you, Charlie! dadgum you, Charlie! dadgum you, Charlie! dadgum you, Charlie! dadgum you, Charlie! dadgum you, Charlie! popcorn_smiley
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot #17
Post by: mesquite buckeye on December 18, 2013, 09:58:48 PM
Being the unbelievably generous person that I am and in light of the season upon us, I am granting yet another fabulous clue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Clue #4: Not a member of the rogue's gallery of previous plants nor.......(drum roll)
Clue #5: a member of any of the previous genera. ;D
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot #17
Post by: pabst79 on December 18, 2013, 10:22:28 PM
How about Prunus pensylvanica, my preferred smell of pipe tobacco as well?  bat_smailey
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot #17
Post by: mesquite buckeye on December 18, 2013, 10:32:42 PM
Nice try dude. No way Jose! ;D

dadgum you, Charlie! smiley_eek_dropjaw smiley_eek_dropjaw smiley_eek_dropjaw smiley_eek_dropjaw boxingsmiley boxingsmiley boxingsmiley boxingsmiley smiley_biggrin01
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot #17
Post by: giant splinter on December 18, 2013, 11:40:45 PM
looks like it may be a non-resinouse type perhaps, cedar is out as it was one of the already chosen and redwood might not exist in Arizona.
      scratching head say_what
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot #17
Post by: giant splinter on December 18, 2013, 11:53:27 PM
could this be one of the Pines, Bristlecone Pine?
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot #17
Post by: pasbuild on December 19, 2013, 12:33:29 AM
cactus
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot #17
Post by: mesquite buckeye on December 19, 2013, 09:12:13 AM
Quote from: giant splinter on December 18, 2013, 11:53:27 PM
could this be one of the Pines, Bristlecone Pine?

Not that...... ;D dadgum you, Charlie!
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot #17
Post by: mesquite buckeye on December 19, 2013, 10:04:02 AM
Quote from: pasbuild on December 19, 2013, 12:33:29 AM
cactus

Not any of them. :( :o 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot #17
Post by: mesquite buckeye on December 19, 2013, 10:06:06 AM
Clue #5: I did not say the woods was in Arizona. ;D ;D ;D ;D :snowball:
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot #17
Post by: giant splinter on December 19, 2013, 10:31:41 AM
Redwood old growth (giant sequoia)
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot #17
Post by: ancjr on December 19, 2013, 11:08:57 AM
Kingsford(tm) Chunk Charcoal!
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot #17
Post by: mesquite buckeye on December 19, 2013, 11:25:51 AM
You a very bad guy, GS. smiley_eek_dropjaw  smiley_eek_dropjaw smiley_eek_dropjaw smiley_eek_dropjaw smiley_eek_dropjaw smiley_eek_dropjaw smiley_eek_dropjaw smiley_eek_dropjaw whiteflag_smiley whiteflag_smiley whiteflag_smiley


We have a winner. smiley_bounce smiley_bounce smiley_bouncing_pinky smiley_bouncing_pinky smiley_blue_bounce smiley_bouncing_pinky smiley_bounce smiley_bounce   smiley_clapping smiley_clapping smiley_clapping

Giant Sequoia, Sierra Redwood Sequoiadendron giganteum
Found this piece laying in a pile of rejects from an old shingle making operation in the national forest while walking to see the Boole Tree in 1996, probably from trees cut down between 1908 and 1912. The big clue is that there are about 70-80 rings/inch if you count them. Another clue would have been this is not a cut surface, but a shatter fracture, probably from when the tree was felled, very typical of sequoias, which had to be featherbedded when they were dropped to keep them from exploding when they landed. An old building in Sequoia Natl Park that  was built on the original timber claim in the 1850's or 60's (can't remember) has sequoia shakes still in good condition well over 100 years later. Too bad they don't seem to plant sequoias in the old forest. Almost all pines planted there now. Near the Boole Tree, lots of second growth sequoias seeded in, already 2-3 ft thick and 100 ft tall. I think they should be managing for sequoias there.
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot #17
Post by: giant splinter on December 20, 2013, 06:17:22 PM
Your cross cut view showed the growth rings and I counted 19-20 in a quarter inch .... the growth rings where a very good clue and the typical fractures at the ring transitions helped give it away and are confirmed by the original photo :christmas: :new_year:
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot #17
Post by: ancjr on December 20, 2013, 07:33:42 PM
That was pretty quick.  Congratulations, GS  :D
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot #17
Post by: mesquite buckeye on December 20, 2013, 08:11:26 PM
Dude is like a rat terrier in a corn crib. He has nailed it many a time. ;D 8) 8) 8) :snowball:
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot #17
Post by: giant splinter on December 20, 2013, 09:59:22 PM
Its always a worthwhile quiz and a challenge that I wish more members would join in on.

Thanks Mesquite Buckeye, Ancjr and everyone involved.
Title: Re: Quickie Quiz Jackpot #17
Post by: mesquite buckeye on December 20, 2013, 10:22:35 PM
 ;D