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Title: Potholes
Post by: 21incher on February 19, 2014, 06:43:20 PM
Over the past couple of weeks the roads in my area have become so full of potholes that some of them are becoming dangerous to drive on. I have never seen it this bad before and wonder if the extreme cold we have had this year is causing the asphalt to shrink and crack apart. It is getting to be a common sight to see a pothole and just ahead of it a car with a flat tire and cracked aluminum rim. Anybody else have this problem?
Title: Re: Potholes
Post by: thecfarm on February 19, 2014, 06:49:44 PM
Not yet.We need some above freezing temps first. But some are coming for the next few days. Than the pot holes will appear. But I have noticed the frost heaves are awaking from thier deep sleep. The frost heaves are not too bad if you know the roads.The other day I was on a road that I had not been on in a while. The car in front of me slows down alot for no reason. Until I saw the car go up and down,than I knew why.
Title: Re: Potholes
Post by: goose63 on February 19, 2014, 06:51:05 PM
 We are getting pot holes here to but man the frost heaves are like ski jumps >:(
Title: Re: Potholes
Post by: Den Socling on February 19, 2014, 07:31:26 PM
This morning in Pennsylvania the heaves were ice covered ski jumps.  :o
Title: Re: Potholes
Post by: celliott on February 19, 2014, 09:56:33 PM
Oh yeah, big time. VT Rt.15, 50mph speed limit in most areas, it's unsafe to drive more than 40 the potholes, and frost heaves are so bad. Not just winter either, it's bad year round.
Title: Re: Potholes
Post by: dgdrls on February 19, 2014, 10:09:38 PM
Quote from: 21incher on February 19, 2014, 06:43:20 PM
Over the past couple of weeks the roads in my area have become so full of potholes that some of them are becoming dangerous to drive on. I have never seen it this bad before and wonder if the extreme cold we have had this year is causing the asphalt to shrink and crack apart. It is getting to be a common sight to see a pothole and just ahead of it a car with a flat tire and cracked aluminum rim. Anybody else have this problem?

Right with you in Syracuse, Fulton and Oswego area.

Brutal 

DGDrls
Title: Re: Potholes
Post by: Okrafarmer on February 19, 2014, 10:36:51 PM
It could be the extreme weather, but it also has to do with how recently and how well they have been fixed / resurfaced. But that could devolve this thread into a talk about government, which I shall not do.
Title: Re: Potholes
Post by: thecfarm on February 19, 2014, 10:38:59 PM
Okrafarmer,good to see you posting. The town of Chesterville is lucky. We have a lot of gravel around here. So we have a good base without having to build it up. Not many potholes and frost heaves like some towns have.
Title: Re: Potholes
Post by: chevytaHOE5674 on February 20, 2014, 07:06:44 AM
Frost heaves are terrible this year around here. When driving at night your headlights cast a shadow off the heaves and makes them look like moguls on a ski hill. Last I heard there was 70+ inches of frost which means the roads are only going to get worse.
Title: Re: Potholes
Post by: coxy on February 20, 2014, 07:14:04 AM
they are horrible here to           70+in of frost :o  how do you keep your water from freezing
Title: Re: Potholes
Post by: Cedarman on February 20, 2014, 07:26:46 AM
Many years ago we had a stretch of road with many deep potholes that never seemed to get fixed.
One day I called the local newspaper and asked to put an ad in the lost and found section.
I told the lady I wanted it to read  "Volkswagon Rabbit lost in the bottomless pothole section of the Valeene Road."
She then asked for a phone number in case someone found it.  I said, think about it for a minute.  She did, she laughed  and the ad ran.
Don't remember if it helped get them fixed, but did get a lot of laughs.
Title: Re: Potholes
Post by: 21incher on February 20, 2014, 07:38:43 AM
Quote from: chevytaHOE5674 on February 20, 2014, 07:06:44 AM
Frost heaves are terrible this year around here. When driving at night your headlights cast a shadow off the heaves and makes them look like moguls on a ski hill. Last I heard there was 70+ inches of frost which means the roads are only going to get worse.
With 70 inches of frost you are going to be up to your knees in mud for quite some time when the spring thaw comes.
Now they are calling for 50 deg temps and a inch of rain this afternoon and then another below zero polar vortex next week. There probably will be bigger and better potholes in the future. Low profile tires and cast aluminum rims do not do well in these conditions and my F350 just about puts you through the roof.
Title: Re: Potholes
Post by: chevytaHOE5674 on February 20, 2014, 07:39:47 AM
Most of the areas with city water are having all the people leave water running 24/7 to help keep the pipes from freezing. The city and village crews have also been busy with their welders thawing out pipes.
Title: Re: Potholes
Post by: coxy on February 20, 2014, 07:25:53 PM
Quote from: chevytaHOE5674 on February 20, 2014, 07:39:47 AM
Most of the areas with city water are having all the people leave water running 24/7 to help keep the pipes from freezing. The city and village crews have also been busy with their welders thawing out pipes.
that's good for the city if you have to pay for the water  :o
Title: Re: Potholes
Post by: m wood on February 20, 2014, 07:40:05 PM
i just replaced the shackles on my rear springs (1 broke) DanG them potholes!
Title: Re: Potholes
Post by: Dave Shepard on February 20, 2014, 08:00:35 PM
I thought I was going to get stuck in one the other day, but the Smart car in front of me fell in first and I just drove right over his roof.
Title: Re: Potholes
Post by: shelbycharger400 on February 20, 2014, 08:12:42 PM
Take a. Pic of the broken rim, pothole and have a noticeable landmark in the background.  Then send the bill to the state.  It works here in MN, but most don't know bout it
Title: Re: Potholes
Post by: chevytaHOE5674 on February 20, 2014, 08:34:49 PM
Quote from: coxy on February 20, 2014, 07:25:53 PM
that's good for the city if you have to pay for the water  :o

They estimate your bill based on past usage.

I told the wife if we had city water and were on the let run program I could build an ice skating rink out back and tell them all that usage was just the faucet running. ha
Title: Re: Potholes
Post by: DaleK on February 20, 2014, 08:53:37 PM
Pothole flattened an 18.4 R 38 on the tractor delivering firewood today, turned out it hit hard enough to pop an old boot and the tire opened up and bit the tube. Fun fun. Then got to the tire shop and they had 5 new employees and only one that had been there since last year. 4 hours later...
Title: Re: Potholes
Post by: luvmexfood on February 20, 2014, 09:00:10 PM
Yep. Hate potholes and almost as bad is when they send out a new crew to fix them and hump the patch up. Then you have pothumps.
Title: Re: Potholes
Post by: Dave Shepard on February 20, 2014, 09:06:00 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Potholes
Post by: thecfarm on February 20, 2014, 10:06:31 PM
I have seen some filled with some sort of sand? for no better word,that packs down hard. Than when it's not needed it's pushed off to the side of the road.
Title: Re: Potholes
Post by: sprucebunny on February 20, 2014, 10:07:07 PM
One road that I use daily gets so bad some years that they dump gravel on it and grade it  :o It's not so much the holes but the heaves get so high. ..Or is it the dips so low ???
Title: Re: Potholes
Post by: sawguy21 on February 20, 2014, 11:06:05 PM
We call them Mother Nature's speed bumps and they breed like rabbits. ;D We just have to live with them in the north due to weather extremes but I sure hate them hitting them with the stiffly sprung pickumuptruck.
Title: Re: Potholes
Post by: coxy on February 21, 2014, 06:23:50 AM
a friend of mine hit a heave in the road so hard when the truck come down it ripped the plow frame out of the truck frame and ran over some of the plow what a mess over 2100 in damage  oil pan  tie rods  tire and frame work
Title: Re: Potholes
Post by: SPIKER on February 21, 2014, 02:20:58 PM
Last few weeks SURE has been bad here in Northern Ohio! :snowball: :snowball: >:(   Frost heaves are "un dodgeable" all way across the road and bigger than sped bumps on each side of a school!   The Pot holes are starting to show up more now and will only get worse.   The Water gets into the asphalt then freezes causing it to crumble, as water build up in the low spots it penetrates more freezing at night tearing up the road worse and worse.   Only way to stop them is to blow out the water and heat it to dry it out then fill it with hot patch.   Most places the local gov will toss cold patch into a full of water pot hole then complain the patch didn't work & be out next week to do it all over again...

Frost heave is so bad here that my low rise thunder bird car nearly drags the ground if I hit them slow. :o   Hit them at 50+ mph and then jump the middle of the car over them lol... (no that don't work but feels about like it sounds when you hit these things.)
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