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Title: iveco rebuild
Post by: snowstorm on April 07, 2014, 03:49:18 PM
i am doing an inframe on the motor in the rottne. its apart head is off the pistons are out. it looks to be a very well built motor. 6 head bolts for each cylinder oil cooled pistons. keystone top rings with iron insert. it may be a bit of a mutt tho. the pistons say ford on them the rods iveco and the bearings have the new Holland logo on them. i was told of someone that works for iveco fpt marine. i called him and he says he can get the parts. he is coming here in the am. it is the 7.5l genesis motor. this machine was a repo and it sat for quite a few yrs. some of the cylinders look like they had a little water and a bit of rust. looks like it will clean up ok. and 1 piston was too clean so maybe 1 injector was over fueling and washing that cylinder down. the injectors were a night mare to get out
Title: Re: iveco rebuild
Post by: craigc on April 07, 2014, 06:48:44 PM
I have this same motor in my SMV.  I have had it rebuilt twice. I would recommend taking the motor out to do the rebuild.  The first one they did on mine was not a take out so it got rebuilt 3000 hrs later because of this.  This time it is right.   Did you buy this machine out of Indiana?
Title: Re: iveco rebuild
Post by: snowstorm on April 07, 2014, 06:59:12 PM
Quote from: craigc on April 07, 2014, 06:48:44 PM
I have this same motor in my SMV.  I have had it rebuilt twice. I would recommend taking the motor out to do the rebuild.  The first one they did on mine was not a take out so it got rebuilt 3000 hrs later because of this.  This time it is right.   Did you buy this machine out of Indiana?
where did you get the parts? the new holland called saying they cant get parts or cant be sure of getting the right ones. the only thing you cant do inframe is cam bearings and the rear seal. i have done a lot of inframes since 1975 this one is staying in
Title: Re: iveco rebuild
Post by: snowstorm on April 07, 2014, 07:02:28 PM
Quote from: craigc on April 07, 2014, 06:48:44 PM
I have this same motor in my SMV.  I have had it rebuilt twice. I would recommend taking the motor out to do the rebuild.  The first one they did on mine was not a take out so it got rebuilt 3000 hrs later because of this.  This time it is right.   Did you buy this machine out of Indiana?
on the engine vin tag dose it say ford nh or iveco? 7.5l or 6.6?
Title: Re: iveco rebuild
Post by: Dom on April 07, 2014, 07:57:46 PM
Rottne Canada still had engine parts for these a few years ago, but the engine has been out of production for quite some years now. ROCAN had bought the last lot of engines in 2007.
some people would replace the main bearings every few years just to be safe as it was easy to do. Many of those engines made it over 30,000 hrs. Keep it going!
Title: Re: iveco rebuild
Post by: snowstorm on April 07, 2014, 08:50:34 PM
Quote from: Dom on April 07, 2014, 07:57:46 PM
Rottne Canada still had engine parts for these a few years ago, but the engine has been out of production for quite some years now. ROCAN had bought the last lot of engines in 2007.
some people would replace the main bearings every few years just to be safe as it was easy to do. Many of those engines made it over 30,000 hrs. Keep it going!
the rod bearings show a little wear but not a lot. i will roll a set of mains in
Title: Re: iveco rebuild
Post by: snowstorm on April 08, 2014, 04:56:39 PM
the iveco guy was here today. he thought the motor looked real good for having 18000hrs. pistons looked good and will be reused. it dose need valve guides as they are out of spec. the boatyard is looking for the parts hopefully they can find them on this side of the Atlantic. after new holland telling its dealer to not even try to get the parts. dont think i wood buy a blue tractor. the nh dealer told me they once waited 3 months for a transmission. bet that framer wasnt happy
Title: Re: iveco rebuild
Post by: chevytaHOE5674 on April 08, 2014, 06:56:00 PM
Sounds like you need a better NH dealer. Helped a neighbor of mine rebuild a Genesis motor last hay season and our local dealer was able to get everything we needed. We did an out of frame and put in all new bearings, new crank, rods, pistons, had the head rebuilt. Machine went down on a Friday AM, by Saturday we had it torn down and parts ordered, and by the following Monday it was back in the field.
Title: Re: iveco rebuild
Post by: rick f on April 08, 2014, 07:15:55 PM
Snowstorm was that the dealer on Rt. 17 or the one on the river road headed toward Waterville ? Just cuirous, the one on rt. 17 I found to be hard to deal with. good luck on the rebuild.
Title: Re: iveco rebuild
Post by: snowstorm on April 08, 2014, 08:02:17 PM
Quote from: rick f on April 08, 2014, 07:15:55 PM
Snowstorm was that the dealer on Rt. 17 or the one on the river road headed toward Waterville ? Just cuirous, the one on rt. 17 I found to be hard to deal with. good luck on the rebuild.
you mean the friendly folks [ as they call then selves ] on 17. they are useless. the parts guy in knox tried. he called the new holland head office they told him it could have been built just for rottne. and they told him to tell me i was out of luck. they wanted nothing to do with it. a lot of the iveco part # are the same as nh # 
Title: Re: iveco rebuild
Post by: snowstorm on April 08, 2014, 08:17:20 PM
Quote from: chevytaHOE5674 on April 08, 2014, 06:56:00 PM
Sounds like you need a better NH dealer. Helped a neighbor of mine rebuild a Genesis motor last hay season and our local dealer was able to get everything we needed. We did an out of frame and put in all new bearings, new crank, rods, pistons, had the head rebuilt. Machine went down on a Friday AM, by Saturday we had it torn down and parts ordered, and by the following Monday it was back in the field.
the way there parts system works they cant look it up by engine # only tractor model
Title: Re: iveco rebuild
Post by: snowstorm on April 09, 2014, 08:44:40 PM
the parts are on there way finally. i toke the injectors in to have them rebuilt. $1000 for parts to rebuild 6 injectors. seems like plenty