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Title: four side planer
Post by: Deerlope on May 05, 2014, 03:02:20 PM
 Hey guys where do I go to start looking for a four side planer that can also do T&G. I do not have any 3PH power so anything would either have to be small or can be run by an engine.
Title: Re: four side planer
Post by: woodman58 on May 05, 2014, 05:51:56 PM
Logosol PH260 Single phase will work. Look at this page on the top right.
Title: Re: four side planer
Post by: Dewey on May 05, 2014, 06:16:41 PM
You can either Buy or build a Phase Convertor.... I am almost set to start planning with my 4 sider....( I need to build my shavings building.. )
I had a fellow build a convertor out of a 20 HP electric motor.... It will start 75 hp of 3 phase motors.... But.... I have'nt run any lumber through it yet ..
Title: Re: four side planer
Post by: Larry on May 05, 2014, 07:16:21 PM
You might look for Smithway XL's.  A lot of them had 2 hp on the side heads, 5 hp for the top and bottom, and 1/2 hp for the feed.  Years ago they were a common machine used in thousands of door and window shops.  I just sold one to a neighbor sawmill a couple of months ago.

Title: Re: four side planer
Post by: Birchwood Logging on May 08, 2014, 07:48:43 PM
Let me sell you my Newman 8b its a 4 sided planer its a little big though lol about 5 tons and has a 50hp 3 phase motor. Boy will it chew through the wood
Title: Re: four side planer
Post by: DGK on May 09, 2014, 09:26:41 AM
I have the Logosol PH260 in the 3 phase version using a phase converter. The machine does a very good job and makes money.
Title: Re: four side planer
Post by: scsmith42 on May 10, 2014, 04:37:43 AM
A Baker M412 is another option to the logosol. You will need a high suction /volume dust collection system too. Between the Baker and the dust collection I have around 40hp of load when I run mine, which is a tad much for a phase converter. I run mine off of a 3-phase generator.
Title: Re: four side planer
Post by: ozarkgem on May 10, 2014, 06:13:46 AM
Quote from: Dewey on May 05, 2014, 06:16:41 PM
You can either Buy or build a Phase Convertor.... I am almost set to start planning with my 4 sider....( I need to build my shavings building.. )
I had a fellow build a convertor out of a 20 HP electric motor.... It will start 75 hp of 3 phase motors.... But.... I have'nt run any lumber through it yet ..
I always heard the phase converter motor had to be twice as big and the motor you are starting. a 20 hp converter will start a 10 hp motor. Have you started a 75 hp motor with yours? I would like to see some pics of that because I need to build one for my mill to do away with my gen set.
Title: Re: four side planer
Post by: petefrom bearswamp on May 10, 2014, 06:54:37 AM
Ozarkgem, that is what I was told regarding creating the phantom leg.
Mine is a 20 running a 10 on my spiral head planer.
Title: Re: four side planer
Post by: ozarkgem on May 10, 2014, 07:53:09 AM
Quote from: petefrom bearswamp on May 10, 2014, 06:54:37 AM
Ozarkgem, that is what I was told regarding creating the phantom leg.
Mine is a 20 running a 10 on my spiral head planer.
I've looked at some factory ones and seems 30 hp 3 phase is all you can run on a 200 amp single phase system. But someone may have figured out a way. Lots of people smarter than me.