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Title: Anyone logging with a winch truck?
Post by: Pine Ridge on May 06, 2014, 08:51:14 PM
New member, wondering if anyone else is using a winch truck to skid logs? The one I own is a 1979 chevy 3/4ton with 4 wheel drive, dual rear wheels, and a garwood pto winch. She's not fast or pretty, but its what I use. Runs good and dependable!
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Post by: Firewoodjoe on May 06, 2014, 09:05:06 PM
Welcome! And can't say that I have. How's it work? Just personal use?
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Post by: thecfarm on May 06, 2014, 09:05:55 PM
If it works for you,that is all that matters. My land is a challenge to work on,uneven places and rocks are the worse of it.
Get any pictures? Seem like a member put a engine hoist in the back of a truck to get logs out.
Title: Re: Anyone logging with a winch truck?
Post by: Pine Ridge on May 06, 2014, 09:27:58 PM
Thanks for the welcome! yes its just for personal use,on the weekends. It works pretty good, just not real fast. I cut oak mostly, small woodlots that the owners realize I have another job during the week,and log on the weekends.I cut to length in the woods, 8 feet 8 inches, and skid out what it will handle at a time. i'll see if i can get a picture posted, I'm  not real computer savvy!
Title: Re: Anyone logging with a winch truck?
Post by: Pine Ridge on May 06, 2014, 09:35:47 PM
 

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Title: Re: Anyone logging with a winch truck?
Post by: thecfarm on May 06, 2014, 09:38:14 PM
Was that a before you put it in the woods picture??
Like that arch. Don't need chains?
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Post by: Pine Ridge on May 06, 2014, 10:04:42 PM
That picture was taken last week, I've been using it about two years now,I do touch up the paint every now and then th  ough.I don't know what the arch was made from, I didn't build it, I bought the truck from a friend.It is stout made! The top of the boom is about 9 feet, with a snatch block and about 300 feet of 9/16 cable. I've got a set of chains for the rear duals, I don't use them much unless it's real steep or muddy. I really try to leave a light footprint, sometimes carrying them instead of skidding if I'm in a sensitive area. enjoy the heck out of reading and seeing different methods and machines on the forestry forum!
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Post by: bigred1951 on May 06, 2014, 10:19:01 PM
love the truck. Any more pics of it? 4 speed or auto
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Post by: thecfarm on May 06, 2014, 10:26:08 PM
Not even a big dent in it,the bumper looks good. I'm just rough on stuff.
Title: Re: Anyone logging with a winch truck?
Post by: Pine Ridge on May 06, 2014, 10:43:51 PM
Thanks for the good words, I've got some more pictures i'll post soon. It's a 4 speed transmission with a 350 engine. She's got some dents and rough spots, I always cut out a skid trail and don't run over anything very big. I baby it around, if It is spinning I look for another option. It does get around pretty good, and the winch will sure pickup more than the truck will handle.
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Post by: MikeON on May 07, 2014, 06:04:34 AM
I've used the front winch on a deuce and a half to pull some pretty big logs out of the woods.  It has 200' of 1/2" cable and I carry a few additional lengths.  I like to aim the truck toward a nearby tree and put a snatch block on that tree with a tree-saver strap.  This keeps the cable feeding into the winch at the correct angle that it doesn't bunch up one side.  Also handy for pulling down leaning trees after making the cuts.
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Post by: Redbark on May 07, 2014, 06:25:22 AM
Use my 1950 Dodge Power Wagon with it's factory 10 ton winch with snatch blocks.
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Post by: ridge logger on May 07, 2014, 08:23:32 AM
Used 1941 GMC 6x6 for couple of years till I bought a skidder. I still use the old truck around the farm and for a backup  when needed
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Post by: chester_tree _farmah on May 07, 2014, 09:53:48 AM
Nice. I had a friend - haven't seen him for years - who built a nice skiddah out of one of those old small Army trucks. I think it was a power wagon. Took the bed off and mounted a PTO winch and arch. Cut the fenders off. Put some big old tires on it. I think he even shortened the frame a bit. Welded nerf bars and skid plates here and there. Dropped a small block Chevy in it. Was pretty cool. He used it on his farm. All from stuff laying around his farm pretty much.  8)
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Post by: celliott on May 07, 2014, 05:47:19 PM
Is it road legal?
I'd love to drive that down the road (or see it coming down the road)  8)
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Post by: Reddog on May 07, 2014, 06:18:33 PM
There was a FF member in the Yukon territories that used a winch truck. Don't think he has posted in a while.

Can't remember his user name now.   :-[
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Post by: celliott on May 07, 2014, 06:31:41 PM
Quote from: Reddog on May 07, 2014, 06:18:33 PM
There was a FF member in the Yukon territories that used a winch truck. Don't think he has posted in a while.

Can't remember his user name now.   :-[

That would be fuzzybear.

Quote from: fuzzybear on January 30, 2013, 12:45:08 PM

  I got tired of packing wood so I built this monster to haul the whole tree out to the landing.  I can pull out a little over 1 cord at a time in tree length.
FB



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Title: Re: Anyone logging with a winch truck?
Post by: ozarkgem on May 07, 2014, 07:18:42 PM
when I was a kid back in the 60's all they used around here anyway were old winch trucks. Beat to H&%$, no brakes , no glass, bald tires and thats all they had. Never saw a skidder till I got older. I think they must have used it for loading the logs also. Had pretty tall gin poles.
Title: Re: Anyone logging with a winch truck?
Post by: ozarkgem on May 07, 2014, 07:20:04 PM
Quote from: Pine Ridge on May 06, 2014, 09:35:47 PM


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Love the truck. Custom seat cover I see.
Title: Re: Anyone logging with a winch truck?
Post by: Pine Ridge on May 07, 2014, 08:47:51 PM
A few more pictures. She's not street legal, everything that's not necessary I've done away with, I put a trash sack over the seat when I'm done running for the day. Ridge logger I live on the other side of the creek from you, we talked at Jims mill about a year ago.

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Title: Re: Anyone logging with a winch truck?
Post by: ozarkgem on May 08, 2014, 04:50:41 AM
Quote from: Pine Ridge on May 07, 2014, 08:47:51 PM
A few more pictures. She's not street legal, everything that's not necessary I've done away with, I put a trash sack over the seat when I'm done running for the day. Ridge logger I live on the other side of the creek from you, we talked at Jims mill about a year ago.

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Where do you live? Can't be too far from me.
Title: Re: Anyone logging with a winch truck?
Post by: ridge logger on May 08, 2014, 08:18:21 AM
yes we visted at the mill a while back. thats a good looking truck . we will have to get together and cut  oneday whe both our schuedules will let us.
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Post by: enigmaT120 on May 08, 2014, 02:13:05 PM
That's a cool truck.  I've pulled a couple of hung-up trees out to my skid road with the Warn winch on my '81 Toyota, but it's an electric winch and I don't intend to make a regular practice of that.  I have a Koenig PTO winch to put on my '58 Chevy Napco pickup that will probably see similar use.  I don't expect to do much if any of my own logging except PC thinning, unless I wind up with a tractor with a winch.

Title: Re: Anyone logging with a winch truck?
Post by: Pine Ridge on May 08, 2014, 04:53:06 PM
Ozarkgem I live in Chadwick, I've saw some of your posts and I'll bet we either know each other or some of the same people. The yellow International dumptruck I saw in one of your posts may be one we had at the county road department a few years back, the county had bought it from Modot. If it is I've put several miles on it myself,good truck. Ridge logger we'll have to do that one of these days! enigmat120 that pto winch will be plenty strong,I have to really pay attention because they will lift way more than my truck will handle.

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Post by: ozarkgem on May 08, 2014, 07:26:30 PM
I went through there Sunday. I may be buying a place in Ava. Will know in a couple of weeks. Love that country. what kind of winch do you have on your truck. PTO or Hydraulic.
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Post by: RayMO on May 08, 2014, 08:01:34 PM
I used a 1-1/2 and 2 ton winch trucks for a few years to skid with. I have a 440 Deere now but wish I had a winch truck now and then for those extra long drags. You can pull a big tree fast enough to make the bark smoke on a good skid trail/road.
Title: Re: Anyone logging with a winch truck?
Post by: Pine Ridge on May 08, 2014, 08:10:39 PM
Ozarkgem it has a Garwood winch that is pto driven, The winch is old, either a 15 or 20 ton. I figure it started out on a military truck. Raymo that is FUNNY! I can drive this one 50 mph on the road, but it's not street legal. I'd have to put a spark arrestor on it to skid that fast! I'm still about to die laughing!
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Post by: HuZzEy on May 09, 2014, 01:21:30 AM
we used this for about 10 years 

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Title: Re: Anyone logging with a winch truck?
Post by: ridge logger on May 09, 2014, 08:37:05 AM
 My  winch truck has a garwood winch on it pulls good and not had any trouble out of it in 8 years of use. Is yours a 2 speed , mine has high, low and reverse. I also put some bars from the front to the top of the cab to keep branches from slapping me in the head since window aren't a option. ;D
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Post by: chester_tree _farmah on May 09, 2014, 12:10:38 PM
Quote from: HuZzEy on May 09, 2014, 01:21:30 AM
we used this for about 10 years 

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Very cool. A friend of mine built one similar. :-)
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Post by: bigred1951 on May 13, 2014, 01:34:45 PM
got any pics of the truck in the woods skidding logs and working
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Post by: ely on May 13, 2014, 02:42:29 PM
those are cool pics, I like the last one the best, is it a power wagon?
I would drive the first truck on the road it is better than what I drive now.

we used to log with a winch truck, but on the back we would run taller mud grip tires on the outside duals, then shorter tires with a set of chains on the inside duals for when the mud grips got too deep the chains would get after it.
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Post by: Pine Ridge on May 13, 2014, 09:47:27 PM
Heres  a  few  pictures  last  year  when  mine  still  had  doors  and  a  windshield.

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Title: Re: Anyone logging with a winch truck?
Post by: bigred1951 on May 13, 2014, 09:58:00 PM
how well does it do in the woods. I been thinking about building a truck just like that to skid logs with but im worried it wont do so well in the woods unless the ground is flat and open
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Post by: luvmexfood on May 13, 2014, 10:14:00 PM
It's amazing to see some of the things that are homebuilt. No blueprints to go by but they work. Lot of talent. Few weeks back I was at a fastmart and some guy who looked like he stared in Deliverence was gassing up a truck he had made. Old pick-up around 30ish that had been lowered, hotrod motor etc.

Anyway, I asked him if I could take a picture. His face beemed and he said sure. I would say he had a big smile on his face but you have to have all your teeth for that. Not making fun of him but the man had skills that would probably put him with the best Nascar builders.
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Post by: Pine Ridge on May 13, 2014, 10:55:14 PM
bigred 1951  it  does  ok  in  the  woods,  but  they  do  have  limits.  you  need  to  cut  a  skid  trail  usually,  you  can't  run  over  a  lot  of  brush  and  limbs  or  you'll  be  replacing  radiators,  brake  lines  and  battery  cables. They  will  surprise  you  where  they'll  go,  and  sometimes  where  they  won't.  they  will  go  better  carrying  an  8 footer  than  skidding  a  tree  2 or 3  cuts  long. I  have  a lot  of  cable  on  mine,  and  in  really  steep  places  I  might  do  alot  of  winching.  they  aren't  for  high  production,  but  they  will  work.  The  more  you  run  one  the  better  you'll  get  at  knowing  what  you  can  and  can't  do  with  them. A  2 ton  4x4  would  be  good  to  build  one  from.  on  the  plus  side  they  are  usually  cheap  to  work  on.  luvmexfood  I  bought  this  truck  pretty  much  complete  from  a  friend,  he  had  bought  it  from  someone  else.  it  has  metal  welded  on  it  from  everything  imaginable,  they  just  used  whatever  was  laying  around.
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Post by: ely on May 14, 2014, 10:33:23 AM
lovemexfood, those are generally refered to as ratrods... they are cool machines. my 17 year old is gathering parts for his as we speak. you think sawmillers are crazy get around a group of the rat rodders. I know there has to be a few amoung us.
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Post by: BargeMonkey on May 14, 2014, 11:58:01 AM
 That is pretty cool looking.  8)

Anyone who thinks that Appalachian Americans arent skilled needs their heads checked. Our long time dozer operator could not read or write, but could pull off grade and dirt work that I couldnt hope for.
This country has unfortunately gotten away from skilled blue collar trades, promoting obscure phony diploma's for people who end up flipping burgers. My brother has 6 years as an "historic art history" major and teacher. He runs a bar/restaurant now. I have some college and a decent job.
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Post by: mike_belben on December 31, 2020, 02:03:34 AM
Bump for a new round of woods trucks i hope.  




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I think ive found a much more roadworthy dually chassis to put the dump bed on for firewood delivery which frees up the tan F250.  Its welded front and rear and hates tar but loves woods.  



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Im contemplating putting this twinline challenger telescoping boom on it, without the wheel lift.  I has 10k hydraulic winches with freespool and will go up nearly 20 feet.  I think itd work good for twitching shortwood to the trail where bobcat can load on the trailer.



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Truck was my daily driver for a bit and could road itself as needed.  Initially i thought i was gonna articulate a nissan frontier crawler ive had but the 351 will outpull it and is turn key already.  Has great heat and can fit chains on all 4. 





I see this guy pretty often. Not sure what he uses it for.

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Title: Re: Anyone logging with a winch truck?
Post by: barbender on December 31, 2020, 02:38:06 AM
I've heard of guys back in the day using the cable jammer loader trucks to cut short skid jobs with. Some of them could be spooled up with a decent amount of cable, they would drag cable out and winch everything back in to the truck. Buck it upn at the end of the day, load the truck with wood and head it home👍
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Post by: Walnut Beast on December 31, 2020, 04:20:34 AM
Looking forward to see that beast setup Mike 👍