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Title: Baton Strips
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on August 19, 2014, 06:43:22 PM
What are you guys charging for Baton Strips?

I sawed 600 today and charged 75 cents each. 3/4" x 2" x 10 foot.

My Poplar logs.

Just wondering. Thanks!
Title: Re: Baton Strips
Post by: Ga Mtn Man on August 19, 2014, 07:30:27 PM
Every time my eyes scan over the subject line of this thread I see "Bacon Strips" :D.  Hmmm...I wonder what's fer dinner?
Title: Re: Baton Strips
Post by: goose63 on August 19, 2014, 07:36:44 PM
Do Goats eat bacon? digin_2 musteat_1
Title: Re: Baton Strips
Post by: Ga Mtn Man on August 19, 2014, 07:40:43 PM
Goats will eat almost anything but at 75 cents a strip it gets pricey in a hurry.
Title: Re: Baton Strips
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on August 19, 2014, 08:12:54 PM
Quote from: Ga Mtn Man on August 19, 2014, 07:40:43 PM
Goats will eat almost anything but at 75 cents a strip it gets pricey in a hurry.

May your clutch smoke and smell like fresh cooked Bacon.  :D
Title: Re: Baton Strips
Post by: redbeard on August 19, 2014, 08:14:52 PM
Curious when your milling 1x10" or 12" siding out of your popular logs dose the sap wood hold up as well as the heart wood. Reason Iam asking is the Doug fir we mill the sap wood in the bats will get soft years later. So I can't get too many out of the side lumber. So I will saw the (example) 12" can't  down to 1" or so from center then flip it and saw down till I get my bat width then I can get nice flat sawn bats that are all heartwood. I charge same bf price that I sell siding for.  Knots are a problem keeping constant lengths. Its kind of a pain getting the customer quality bats at a low price.
Title: Re: Baton Strips
Post by: WoodenHead on August 19, 2014, 08:32:22 PM
For pine battens (1" x 2") I charge $0.20/linear foot.  That is my price for green material or re-cut dried boards.  Most people want re-sawn dried battens.  1" x 2.5" and 1" x 3" is $0.25/linear foot and 1"x4" is $0.30/linear foot.  Particularly in pine, knots can be a problem.  There is often a quite a bit of waste.  So far people are happy with the price.
Title: Re: Baton Strips
Post by: Dave Shepard on August 19, 2014, 08:34:38 PM
3/4"x2"x10' is really 1"x2" x10' which is 1.66 board feet, or about $0.45/foot. That's a lot of work for the money, especially considering the quality of board needed, or conversely, the amount of culls needed to achieve the desired total number.

No sapwood is rot resistant. I always try to use only heartwood in exterior applications.
Title: Re: Baton Strips
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on August 19, 2014, 08:39:28 PM
All my customers know when they get bats from me.....the bats are guaranteed.
What do I mean by this?
I had a 28 diameter Poplar log I sawed to a big cant. Then I sawed 2 inches down from the top to the bottom. Flipped it and sawed down 3/4" bats from top to bottom with the last bats being at least 1 inch. Could not go any lower.
Then I bundled the whole stack and moved it off the mill with the forks and laid it on the trailer in one bundle.

When it comes to Poplar.....if there's a bad spot in the middle, the bats gonna break into.
I always give the customer more bats than he ask for and let him know if ANY bats break due to a bad knot.....I will replace them for free.

I do not inspect every bat......saw the cant, saw extra, bundle and ship......they are mostly heart wood.
Title: Re: Baton Strips
Post by: Magicman on August 19, 2014, 08:58:20 PM
My prediction is that someone will have a stickering nightmare.   :o

My preference for battens would be to saw and sticker 1" boards. (could be ¾" if that is what the customer wants.  After they dry, then stand them up and drop 2" after each cut.

Strange thing here is that my customers want 1X12's & 1X10's for boards and 1X4's for battens.

Title: Re: Baton Strips
Post by: Peter Drouin on August 19, 2014, 09:11:43 PM
I sold some today, I had been saving some of the egging from cutting lumber that did not have to much wane on them 1x2 [ going on my mill barn]
A customer came today, saw them and wanted some . Sold them for .50 each 8' and 10'
Title: Re: Baton Strips
Post by: Ga Mtn Man on August 19, 2014, 09:32:21 PM
Quote from: POSTONLT40HD on August 19, 2014, 08:12:54 PM
Quote from: Ga Mtn Man on August 19, 2014, 07:40:43 PM
Goats will eat almost anything but at 75 cents a strip it gets pricey in a hurry.

May your clutch smoke and smell like fresh cooked Bacon.  :D

To smell and yet not to taste, perchance to dream of BACON!
                                                                         --W. Shakespeare

Title: Re: Baton Strips
Post by: mesquite buckeye on August 21, 2014, 12:01:35 PM
Who is that old goat anyway. ???

;D :snowball: :snowball: :snowball:
Title: Re: Baton Strips
Post by: Magicman on August 21, 2014, 12:07:59 PM
I do not want any "goat bacon" !!!   :o
Title: Re: Baton Strips
Post by: beenthere on August 21, 2014, 12:20:13 PM
What is a baton strip? 

Directing a band or orchestra, or is it a batten for board and batten siding?   Just curious...
Title: Re: Baton Strips
Post by: petefrom bearswamp on August 21, 2014, 12:25:04 PM
Most of the battens i sell are 1x3 hemlock sawed at 1" on my accuset 2.
These come from the shaky boards and i have quite a bit of waste.
I charge .15 per linear foot for these.
Dont know anything about goat bacon.
Title: Re: Baton Strips
Post by: thecfarm on August 21, 2014, 01:05:32 PM
Magicman,I saw a shed that someone built. I passed it every day to the way to work. Fianlly I saw someone outside. They used 10 inch boards and 4 inch battens. The reason they did that,the sawmill had a specical on 10" and 4" boards.  ;D  I built a horse run in like that. I really like the wide battens. I have seen many board and battens jobs,but the 10" and 4' really caught my attention.
Title: Re: Baton Strips
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on August 21, 2014, 03:00:55 PM
Quote from: beenthere on August 21, 2014, 12:20:13 PM
What is a baton strip? 

Directing a band or orchestra, or is it a batten for board and batten siding?   Just curious...

Kiss my Grits BT.....you nose I cat spell!  :D
Title: Re: Baton Strips
Post by: beenthere on August 21, 2014, 03:09:49 PM
QuoteKiss my Grits BT...

Only if you will correct it..  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Baton Strips
Post by: Larry on August 21, 2014, 03:15:36 PM
Pay no attention, that's just noise from an old goat that didn't get his morning bacon.

Title: Re: Baton Strips
Post by: Ernie on August 21, 2014, 03:28:58 PM
Quote from: Magicman on August 21, 2014, 12:07:59 PM
I do not want any "goat bacon" !!!   :o

Mutton ham is quite nice and is a good use for old cull ewes but I have never tried it as bacon.
Title: Re: Baton Strips
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on August 21, 2014, 03:35:57 PM
Quote from: Larry on August 21, 2014, 03:15:36 PM
Pay no attention, that's just noise from an old goat that didn't get his morning bacon.

:D :D :D
Title: Re: Baton Strips
Post by: thecfarm on August 21, 2014, 05:56:51 PM
Quote from: Larry on August 21, 2014, 03:15:36 PM
Pay no attention, that's just noise from an old goat,with a skirt on, pretending he knows how to play golf,that didn't get his morning grits.

I fixed it!!!!
Title: Re: Baton Strips
Post by: Dave Shepard on August 21, 2014, 06:00:17 PM
Well, if a goat will eat grits, then I guess it's true that they will eat anything.  :o
Title: Re: Baton Strips
Post by: ely on August 21, 2014, 06:37:24 PM
I used random width boards on my house and after they have dried I will need 3 or 4 inch to cover some of the gaps. 2" would get most of them but not all.
if a goat had bacon I would eat it.
Title: Re: Baton Strips
Post by: Nomad on August 21, 2014, 06:54:37 PM
     I might be willing to try goat bacon, but it would depend on the goat it was coming from. :laugh:
Title: Re: Baton Strips
Post by: barbender on August 21, 2014, 11:11:17 PM
Well, I don't think a rendering truck would even pick up the old goat in question ;D He would make for some gnarly smelling bacon :o