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General Forestry => Ask The Forester => Topic started by: Den Socling on August 27, 2014, 11:36:39 AM

Title: This is making me sick
Post by: Den Socling on August 27, 2014, 11:36:39 AM
I'm going to lose the Ash in the near future.



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Can it be saved or is it too late? Does anybody have any experience with Imidacloprid or Dinotefuran? I assume it's EAB's that are killing it. A small one a few feet away looks sick, too.
Title: Re: This is making me sick
Post by: mesquite buckeye on August 27, 2014, 12:25:11 PM
I think it is probably too far gone. Looks like a lumber project to me.
Title: Re: This is making me sick
Post by: Den Socling on August 27, 2014, 12:54:28 PM
Not what I wanted to hear but it's what I expected. Maybe I can get a pile baseball bat billets out of it. They would be worth more than lumber, I believe. If we ever get our grandsons back, they sure are going to be disappointed to see their swing gone.  :(
Title: Re: This is making me sick
Post by: mesquite buckeye on August 27, 2014, 03:39:34 PM
You can plant a new tree, hopefully a tough, long lived one without a deadly exotic pest. It will be ready when their kids are old enough. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: This is making me sick
Post by: Ianab on August 27, 2014, 03:59:33 PM
It might be worth more cut into bats, but I'd be looking at getting it sawn and made into something that could be kept in the family for generations. 

(Then plant a new tree)

Ian
Title: Re: This is making me sick
Post by: Silvanus on August 28, 2014, 08:49:45 AM
Quote from: Den Socling on August 27, 2014, 11:36:39 AM
Can it be saved or is it too late? Does anybody have any experience with Imidacloprid or Dinotefuran?

You can only save the portion of crown that is still living.  If that portion is too small to sustain the whole tree, there is no point in trying to save it.  Ememectin benzoate is the gold standard here in MI.  Gets 99.9% control, good for 2-3 years.
Title: Re: This is making me sick
Post by: Den Socling on May 07, 2015, 07:02:25 PM
I was talking to a PA DCNR guy the other day. They discovered an Ash plantation that they are spraying. They hope that, after the EAB dies out, they will be able to reintroduce Ash. A major ambition!
Title: Re: This is making me sick
Post by: CJennings on May 07, 2015, 07:29:06 PM
That is ambitious but I hope it can be done. I worry about the EAB turning to other trees when it runs out of ash. There are many nice ash trees at home that will be dead before long when the EAB is in VT. This problem isn't going to go away I think, global trade will keep bringing in more pests and fungi so long as it's as unrestricted as it is. The trees we plant to replace ash could be victims in 50 years of another problem. It's ironic many ash trees were planted for shade trees decades ago in my home town to replace elm killed by DED because they were then so pest-free.