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General Forestry => Tree, Plant and Wood I.D. => Topic started by: g_man on September 15, 2014, 04:34:20 PM

Title: Can't ID This Thorn Bush
Post by: g_man on September 15, 2014, 04:34:20 PM
We have an old cellar hole and I found a small clump of thorn bushes near it. I guess that means it could be anything. What ever it is it seems to be pretty shade tolerant. What is this ???  It is in northern VT.  Thanks



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Title: Re: Can't ID This Thorn Bush
Post by: CJennings on September 15, 2014, 06:38:31 PM
It could be gooseberry.
Title: Re: Can't ID This Thorn Bush
Post by: BradMarks on September 15, 2014, 07:11:53 PM
(Ribes) currant maybe?
Title: Re: Can't ID This Thorn Bush
Post by: BradMarks on September 15, 2014, 07:12:33 PM
Does it have sticky leaves?
Title: Re: Can't ID This Thorn Bush
Post by: CJennings on September 15, 2014, 07:29:10 PM
I should of added to my other post, I hope you don't have any valuable white pines close to those plants. Ribes spp. are required by the fungus responsible for white pine blister rust.
Title: Re: Can't ID This Thorn Bush
Post by: g_man on September 15, 2014, 07:49:24 PM
Quote from: CJennings on September 15, 2014, 07:29:10 PM
I should of added to my other post, I hope you don't have any valuable white pines close to those plants. Ribes spp. are required by the fungus responsible for white pine blister rust.

Hmmm............ I have a lot of pine but don't have much that is valuble because of weevil and blister rust. 

There must be more of those bushes around even though I have not noticed them. I have blister rusted pine a quarter mile in any direction from that clump of bushes.

Thank you very much for the ID guys !!!

Title: Re: Can't ID This Thorn Bush
Post by: g_man on September 15, 2014, 07:58:21 PM
I should add - What is the best way to kill it ?
Title: Re: Can't ID This Thorn Bush
Post by: curdog on September 15, 2014, 09:57:28 PM
Roundup or 2-4D would probably be the cheapest options.  I'm sure most broadleaf herbicides would work.
Title: Re: Can't ID This Thorn Bush
Post by: thecfarm on September 16, 2014, 05:22:27 AM
I have had very good luck with Pronto,Big'n'Tuff from tractor supply. Much,much cheaper.
Title: Re: Can't ID This Thorn Bush
Post by: VT_Forestry on September 16, 2014, 06:39:07 AM
Quote from: thecfarm on September 16, 2014, 05:22:27 AM
I have had very good luck with Pronto,Big'n'Tuff from tractor supply. Much,much cheaper.

That's good stuff, kills most anything and for the price you can't beat it  :)
Title: Re: Can't ID This Thorn Bush
Post by: curdog on September 16, 2014, 07:10:08 AM
Quote from: thecfarm on September 16, 2014, 05:22:27 AM
I have had very good luck with Pronto,Big'n'Tuff from tractor supply. Much,much cheaper.
Yeah you're right, I spray the generic from tractor supply as well. I can't remember the name,  but it's a 41% solution of gly.
Title: Re: Can't ID This Thorn Bush
Post by: g_man on September 16, 2014, 07:32:43 AM

This clump is small enough that I could easily pull it up. Considering the time of year is spray the best option.

I have some 25% gly, it sounds like that may not be strong enough. I'll get some of the stuff Mr C-farm suggested - Thanks
Title: Re: Can't ID This Thorn Bush
Post by: beenthere on September 16, 2014, 10:47:14 AM
Pull it up, and spray next year if any comes back. Best to spray when there are green and growing leaves. They may be dormant already this time of year. And 25% gly would likely work, just take a bit longer to see the results. IMO
Title: Re: Can't ID This Thorn Bush
Post by: thecfarm on September 16, 2014, 05:33:27 PM
I try to buy it on sale,Pronto. I brought some last year,about $40 for 2½ gallons. I do find this stuff does not work as fast as round up. But I feel it works as good. Round up takes 3-4 days to see it working,pronto takes about twice as long to see results. But even if I had to use twice as much,it would still be way cheaper. Can't even buy a ½ gallon of total vegation killer round up for $40. Last time I checked a quart was $26.
Title: Re: Can't ID This Thorn Bush
Post by: Chuck White on September 16, 2014, 09:18:34 PM
Pull it and throw it in the backyard fire-pit!
Title: Re: Can't ID This Thorn Bush
Post by: mesquite buckeye on September 17, 2014, 10:20:16 AM
Gooseberry pie is yummy. ;D
Title: Re: Can't ID This Thorn Bush
Post by: g_man on September 17, 2014, 07:13:08 PM
Quote from: Chuck White on September 16, 2014, 09:18:34 PM
Pull it and throw it in the backyard fire-pit!

That is exactly what I did yesterday. Filled the wagon I pull behind the ATV with the stuff.