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Title: Another question for the WM guys
Post by: delvis on October 03, 2014, 08:00:33 PM
I thought of another question for the WM guys.  This is for anyone that has a mill with the stationary command control.  Have you come up with a better tool to help support the caterpillar while travelling than the tray device thing that WM gives you?  We're looking at building something but I like to check here for ideas first.  Thanks again folks.
Title: Re: Another question for the WM guys
Post by: backwoods sawyer on October 03, 2014, 10:52:24 PM
 

 (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/17725/0126131057.jpg)

father time has allowed it to sag a bit.
Also known as Agis track.
Title: Re: Another question for the WM guys
Post by: drobertson on October 04, 2014, 05:43:53 AM
Did not see the need, I like the simple things that work.
Title: Re: Another question for the WM guys
Post by: terrifictimbersllc on October 04, 2014, 12:15:19 PM
The thing woodmizer clips to the main rail and holds the track up there during travel, so it doesn't sag down in the middle like in the picture.
Title: Re: Another question for the WM guys
Post by: backwoods sawyer on October 04, 2014, 12:56:08 PM
After they get run up and down the rail for a few 1,000 hrs they do get a bit loose. This is the second track on this mill.
This mill came without a track track suport and the lower track suports it after it wears enough to sag. If I stuck the suport in it now it would still droop down to the lower rail on both sides of it from wear ::)

I keep a spair 3' section in the truck as when the plastic wears out they fall apart. That is a stop right now situation as you don't want to pull wires apart. I have gone thru and drilled holes in the center at the pivot point and added a short bolt with washers and locknut to each side of the first few closest to the control box as that is the stress point on them.

sticks getting in the track is something to watch for, if the head catches a 1x2 that is sticking out of it it will pop apart. A pair of chanel locks works real good to snap it back together.

We were doing some up grades in the production mill and about a dozen tracks of verious sizes arrived on a pallet unassembled with no paper work other than bill of sale.
The electrition and I got called to machine shop where three millwrights had not been able to agree on how these puzzels went together they had several boxes of different sizes dumped out on a welding table and parts were about to start flying.
They all prefered the old bolt together metal style.
Chanel locks was the key as it gives you the leverage to snap them together.

 




Title: Re: Another question for the WM guys
Post by: Dave Shepard on October 04, 2014, 02:34:16 PM
Is this style still in use on the new LT70, or have all of the remote stations gone to the joysticks?
Title: Re: Another question for the WM guys
Post by: delvis on October 04, 2014, 05:21:02 PM
Quote from: drobertson on October 04, 2014, 05:43:53 AM
Did not see the need, I like the simple things that work.

I like simple things that work too but that support is just not doing it for me.  I think we can use a piece of channel iron that lays on one of the bed rails with a pin through the off bearing side to hold it in place when we are travelling.  It would pop on and off in seconds and work as well or better then the factory support. 
Title: Re: Another question for the WM guys
Post by: terrifictimbersllc on October 04, 2014, 05:47:17 PM
I don't get it.   In the travel mode, I use the yellow metal support plate that one screws onto the top rail, it goes under the cat track, with a rubber bungee over the track around to the plate.  It supports the track fine in travel,  and has never caused any problems.   And I've added in my track three 1/0 welding cables for carrying positive and ground from the head to hydraulic box ("hydraulics everywhere" modification), which makes it heavier. 
Title: Re: Another question for the WM guys
Post by: scully on October 04, 2014, 08:34:05 PM
I don't realy care for the stock track support . It is kind of a pain in the butt to use . It is a good idea to use it though because while travleing the track bounces and this will really speed up ware and may even cause wire damage . I have a few ideas on how to do it better but my welding machine is down so it's on the back burner .  As for the positive lead mod ,that will be comeing very soon ! I am about done with short leash hydraulics !
Title: Re: Another question for the WM guys
Post by: terrifictimbersllc on October 05, 2014, 05:13:42 PM
I like it because it makes me feel good when I put it on.  Means the job is over and I'm about to head home.  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Another question for the WM guys
Post by: backwoods sawyer on October 05, 2014, 05:45:18 PM
They make 20' hot rails ::)

Title: Re: Another question for the WM guys
Post by: Dave Shepard on October 05, 2014, 05:48:47 PM
You can get but email corn here to Ohio, if you want.  :D We had 80' of three phase hot rail for a travelling bridge crane at one place I used to work. I think it was 480. :o