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Title: Sawing
Post by: ladylake on October 07, 2014, 04:49:21 PM

  Anyone interested in sawing green treated poles into lumber located at Lake Charles LA give me a PM, should be a good sized job for a bridge builder.  Steve
Title: Re: Sawing
Post by: Neil Campbell on May 20, 2021, 07:39:25 PM
Did you find anyone to cut those green poles?
I'm interested to find out how they cut.
Neil
Title: Re: Sawing
Post by: Southside on May 20, 2021, 10:51:57 PM
You really don't want anything to do with cutting treated wood.  
Title: Re: Sawing
Post by: jpassardi on May 21, 2021, 06:38:28 AM
Quote from: Southside on May 20, 2021, 10:51:57 PM
You really don't want anything to do with cutting treated wood.  
You must be speaking from experience. Is it tough on blades? Getting rid of the slabs is one issue.
Title: Re: Sawing
Post by: KenMac on May 21, 2021, 09:42:38 PM
Quote from: jpassardi on May 21, 2021, 06:38:28 AM
Quote from: Southside on May 20, 2021, 10:51:57 PM
You really don't want anything to do with cutting treated wood.  
You must be speaking from experience. Is it tough on blades? Getting rid of the slabs is one issue.
I haven't sawn any poles but I've heard horror stories about the experience. Health issues trump any other problems you might encounter. I have refused to saw power poles for one Power Company employee at my church. It hurt his feelings that I wouldn't accommodate him. I said "oh well".
Title: Re: Sawing
Post by: Magicman on May 21, 2021, 10:43:47 PM
I have one answer and it matters not whether it is utility poles, bridge timbers, pressure/chemical, or creosote.....NO.
Title: Re: Sawing
Post by: Southside on May 21, 2021, 10:59:14 PM
Quote from: jpassardi on May 21, 2021, 06:38:28 AM
Quote from: Southside on May 20, 2021, 10:51:57 PM
You really don't want anything to do with cutting treated wood.  
You must be speaking from experience. Is it tough on blades? Getting rid of the slabs is one issue.
Never done it and NEVER will.  Get calls often to saw old RR ties, treated poles, etc.  Has nothing to do with how tough they are on bands, and everything to do with making an aerosol out of known carcinogenics.  Everything becomes Haz-mat / toxic waste, slabs, sawdust, you, the mill, etc.  
Title: Re: Sawing
Post by: Walnut Beast on May 22, 2021, 12:40:34 AM
Quote from: KenMac on May 21, 2021, 09:42:38 PM
Quote from: jpassardi on May 21, 2021, 06:38:28 AM
Quote from: Southside on May 20, 2021, 10:51:57 PM
You really don't want anything to do with cutting treated wood.  
You must be speaking from experience. Is it tough on blades? Getting rid of the slabs is one issue.
I haven't sawn any poles but I've heard horror stories about the experience. Health issues trump any other problems you might encounter. I have refused to saw power poles for one Power Company employee at my church. It hurt his feelings that I wouldn't accommodate him. I said "oh well".
Just tell him next time he just needs to understand that the health risks, waste and the nasty stuff all over your equipment is not worth it 🤷‍♂️
Title: Re: Sawing
Post by: DPatton on May 23, 2021, 06:51:59 PM
I have turned down at least 6 calls already this year to saw power poles. I hate to turn em down but it's just not worth the risk.
Title: Re: Sawing
Post by: Magicman on May 23, 2021, 09:40:38 PM
If you do you can post about it here:  Did something dumb today (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=105351.0)
Title: Re: Sawing
Post by: backwoodsdave on May 23, 2021, 11:56:47 PM
For many years, the only real choice of pressure-treated (green) lumber, was wood treated with Chromated Copper Arsenate (CCA). As the name would indicate, it did contain arsenic,
Now imagine this airborne in tiny particles of sawdust getting in your lungs, eyes, on your skin, your property etc, the black poles and railroad ties are just as bad I would imagine, I have a hard enough time not having red boogers from sawing the occasional cedar tree, I wouldn't trust a mask to keep poison out of my body, but I saw for enjoyment though.
Title: Re: Sawing
Post by: terrifictimbersllc on May 24, 2021, 04:07:33 AM
Quote from: backwoodsdave on May 23, 2021, 11:56:47 PM
For many years, the only real choice of pressure-treated (green) lumber, was wood treated with Chromated Copper Arsenate (CCA). As the name would indicate, it did contain arsenic,
Now imagine this airborne in tiny particles of sawdust getting in your lungs, eyes, on your skin, your property etc, the black poles and railroad ties are just as bad I would imagine, I have a hard enough time not having red boogers from sawing the occasional cedar tree, I wouldn't trust a mask to keep poison out of my body, but I saw for enjoyment though.
I learned on Forensic Files that they can analyze samples of your hair to determine exactly when you were sawing treated poles.  :P
Title: Re: Sawing
Post by: Ianab on May 24, 2021, 06:29:05 AM
Quote from: backwoodsdave on May 23, 2021, 11:56:47 PMChromated Copper Arsenate (CCA). As the name would indicate, it did contain arsenic,


Also the Chromate and Copper salts aren't much better for you....