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Title: Batteries
Post by: Magicman on October 26, 2014, 04:10:46 PM
OK so I know that they are correctly termed "cells" but we refer to them as "batteries. 

I am not having the best of luck with them.  Whether "coppertop", Ray O Vac", or "bunny", I seem to have too many of them to fail and leak and the date on them doesn't matter.  I put 8 coppertop AA's with a 2016 date in my game camera before we left on our vacation trip.  Over 200 pictures were taken before they failed and spewed.  I put 2 bunny AAA's in my doorbell at about the same time.  Failed.  I have changed the AA's in my outside temperature thermometer sending unit several times this year.

Maybe batteries are made from Sweetgum and I hates them too.   :-\



Title: Re: Batteries
Post by: Autocar on October 26, 2014, 05:02:03 PM
How did you ever figure that out battery's were made out of Sweetgum tree now you let the cat out of the bag ! :D  :D  :D
Title: Re: Batteries
Post by: moosehunter on October 26, 2014, 05:18:29 PM
The "copper top" folks replaced a Mag Lite for me when one of their batteries failed and ruined it. That was 15 years ago, have not had one of any brand go bad sense.
Title: Re: Batteries
Post by: red oaks lumber on October 26, 2014, 06:02:46 PM
zero problems with c.top even worked last winter with minus 40 deg.
Title: Re: Batteries
Post by: Shotgun on October 26, 2014, 06:21:41 PM
I've had two mini-mag (2AA) flash lights and one (2 D cell) light ruined with copper tops within the last 8 years. One 2AA light was replaced and the other two were so set up that I couldn't get the batteries out, period.  I'm taking the batteries out now if any mag light will not be used for a while. It's a nuisance, but due to the cost of the lights, I'm not taking any chances.  You have to mail the damaged lights back to mag-light or to the battery manufacturer, and the cost of mailing a loaded two D cell light isn't worth it to me. Plus the hassle of it all.  Something is different in the last few years.  Not certain what.
Title: Re: Batteries
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on October 26, 2014, 08:24:16 PM
I use Duracell in all my game cams, flashlights, computer mouse, remote controls, etc.......
I've never had any problems.

Would you like to schedule a service call?  ;D
Title: Re: Batteries
Post by: drobertson on October 26, 2014, 08:56:17 PM
I've had good luck with all the ones,, I believe it has to be shelf life,
Title: Re: Batteries
Post by: jwilly3879 on October 26, 2014, 09:21:40 PM
We sell Fuji batteries in the wife's store. They work well for me.
Title: Re: Batteries
Post by: hackberry jake on October 26, 2014, 09:23:40 PM
 It's probably because they are triple C batteries. Cheapo Cheapo Chinese.
Title: Re: Batteries
Post by: Magicman on October 26, 2014, 09:38:07 PM
Quote from: hackberry jake on October 26, 2014, 09:23:40 PM
It's probably because they are triple C batteries. Cheapo Cheapo Chinese.
No, I stated in the OP that I have used only the three major producers.

The ones that I put in the game cam were copper top Duracell with a 2016 date.  It took over 200 pictures before the batteries spewed.  I opened the game cam up this afternoon, washed the corrosion out, and soldered the wire back on the back of the terminal.
Title: Re: Batteries
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on October 26, 2014, 09:54:58 PM
Maybe a batch of bad batteries. I have left Duracells in my game cam all season. 1000's of pics.
I hate it when they start leaking....ruins everything.
Title: Re: Batteries
Post by: Magicman on October 26, 2014, 10:04:09 PM
I wasn't worried about those with a 2016 date.  The ones that I just bought are dated 2023.

I just hate to trust something, and get ripped off.   :-\
Title: Re: Batteries
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on October 26, 2014, 10:29:22 PM
Quote from: Magicman on October 26, 2014, 10:04:09 PM


I just hate to trust something, and get ripped off.   :-\

:D :D :D
Title: Re: Batteries
Post by: Ianab on October 26, 2014, 11:00:59 PM
I wonder if someone has gotten into the cheap knock-off battery business? Seems like every other sort of manufacturing has?

They might be labelled as Duracell, but who actually made them?

They counterfeit chainsaws and cant hooks, why not batteries?

I'd send them back to the manufacturer just for that reason. So they know they are either selling crap, or crap is being sold under their name.
Title: Re: Batteries
Post by: Compensation on October 27, 2014, 12:30:33 AM
We use to pour baking soda all over the golf carts at my last job. The corrosion seemed to slow down after that. I don't know if that will help save anything you have but figured I would toss it out there.
Title: Re: Batteries
Post by: Magicman on October 27, 2014, 08:33:26 AM
Golf cart/auto batteries are acid filled and yes, baking soda is the remedy to neutralize the acid.  These are alkaline, so I guess vinegar would be the neutralize.

I buy my batteries from Home Depot which carries all three major brands and has the best price, especially when you get the large packages.
Title: Re: Batteries
Post by: terrifictimbersllc on October 27, 2014, 08:50:15 AM
They just sells 'um, and leaves 'um.   :)
Title: Re: Batteries
Post by: Magicman on October 27, 2014, 09:34:14 AM
You got me there.   :D
Title: Re: Batteries
Post by: Raider Bill on October 27, 2014, 01:59:25 PM
I've got a box of old remotes some are 10-15 years old still with batteries. Just checked them not a leaker in any of them.

I did have a solar led light power pack a couple weeks ago that the rechargeable battery was leaking.
Title: Re: Batteries
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on October 27, 2014, 04:20:56 PM
 say_what What kind of batteries do they put in pacemakers?
Title: Re: Batteries
Post by: Ianab on October 27, 2014, 04:34:05 PM
Quote from: POSTONLT40HD on October 27, 2014, 04:20:56 PM
say_what What kind of batteries do they put in pacemakers?

I would assume they aren't your regular made in Taiwan "NEverreadys"
Title: Re: Batteries
Post by: LaneC on October 27, 2014, 05:34:34 PM
I did not know that they would replace a flashlight. I just threw away a mini mag 2 days ago because the Everready coppertop batteries in it leaked out very bad and destroyed the flash light. Just a FYI, if you look at the warranty on a pelican flash light, it says they are guaranteed from everything except shark bites, bear attacks and children under 5 :D :D :D :D (seriously) that is what the old warranties used to say. I do not know if they still say it or not. I guess it is hit and miss with the batteries, but I do know it is aggravating to have a good device ruined because of this.
Title: Re: Batteries
Post by: hackberry jake on October 27, 2014, 07:55:21 PM
Quote from: Magicman on October 26, 2014, 09:38:07 PM
Quote from: hackberry jake on October 26, 2014, 09:23:40 PM
It's probably because they are triple C batteries. Cheapo Cheapo Chinese.
No, I stated in the OP that I have used only the three major producers.

The ones that I put in the game cam were copper top Duracell with a 2016 date.  It took over 200 pictures before the batteries spewed.  I opened the game cam up this afternoon, washed the corrosion out, and soldered the wire back on the back of the terminal.
I know most of the major manufactures of batteries now have lines outside the U.S. Including Duracell.
Title: Re: Batteries
Post by: Magicman on October 27, 2014, 07:58:09 PM
Quote from: POSTONLT40HD on October 27, 2014, 04:20:56 PM
say_what What kind of batteries do they put in pacemakers?
The general use today is lithium iodine battery, but battery technologies since the inception of cardiac pacemaker presents the alternative to lithium iodine battery for the near future.  Lithium / carbon monofluoride and/or Lithium-polycarbon fluoride will probably be the batteries of choice for pacemakers in the future.
Title: Re: Batteries
Post by: Magicman on October 27, 2014, 08:09:00 PM
Quote from: hackberry jake on October 27, 2014, 07:55:21 PMI know most of the major manufactures of batteries now have lines outside the U.S. Including Duracell.
Yup Jake, I highly suspect that you are very correct.  I just looked at some from the 3 major manufacturers and one said China.

I have had very good success in the past with batteries not leaking and yes, they had a warranty written on the side.  Now there is only a "warning".
Title: Re: Batteries
Post by: 36 coupe on November 10, 2014, 05:23:48 AM
TSC sells some poor AA batteries ,label says Jobsmart.Put 4 in a devise,2 will drop to .4 volts in a short time.The other pair will read 1.5 volt.
Title: Re: Batteries
Post by: Magicman on November 10, 2014, 07:10:41 AM
I just bought some Everyready "Bunny" batteries that has; "Powerseal which protects your devices" printed on the side.  If that means what it says, maybe they are making a much needed improvement.  Hope so.
Title: Re: Batteries
Post by: Gary_C on November 10, 2014, 11:22:52 AM
Quote from: POSTONLT40HD on October 27, 2014, 04:20:56 PM
say_what What kind of batteries do they put in pacemakers?

I sure hope they are dry cell. Those wet cells could sure cause heart burn.  ;D

In the last year I've started losing flashlights to ruptured batteries. I use mostly Rayovac and they just sent me a check for a 3-cell Mag Lite led flashlight that I couldn't get the batteries out. The battery manufacturers must be doing something different.
Title: Re: Batteries
Post by: Larry on November 10, 2014, 11:52:50 AM
I got tired of paying premium prices for not so premium batteries.  Switched to Harbor Freight or Sams Club  batteries three years ago and as of yet, no leakers.  I do use them hard and they can changed out often.  Camera goes through 4 to 8 a month.  I fish at night a lot and Mag-Lites also are changed often.
Title: Re: Batteries
Post by: Clark on November 11, 2014, 11:13:04 AM
I switched to higher quality rechargeable batteries about a year ago and have been very satisfied with them. The problem is that only AA and AAA rechargeable batteries are readily available. I've used the "Eneloop" brand which claims to hold their charge for 2 years when not being used and they have a life expectancy of 1500 charges...if my memory serves me well. I also upgraded my charger to one that tells me how much charge each battery is getting at how many volts which allows me to find the not-so-healthy batteries and take them out of service.

Clark
Title: Re: Batteries
Post by: Woodcutter_Mo on November 13, 2014, 09:25:17 PM
 I generally have best luck with the Duracell's. I have had all 3 of the main brands leak. I lost a 3 cell AA led mag-lite to leakage, though it was my fault. I ran out of AA Duracell's for my 2 cell mag and put some cheapo Sunbeam batteries in it for now, time will tell.
Title: Re: Batteries
Post by: beenthere on November 13, 2014, 10:05:42 PM
Knock on wood, but I haven't had a RayoVac Alkaline leak in more years than I can remember. And don't recall if it was a RayOVac but think they replaced the old flashlight  when it happened. Would guess it was at least 40 years ago..