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General Forestry => Chainsaws => Topic started by: Lorenzo on November 03, 2014, 04:26:36 PM

Title: Round files for sharpening
Post by: Lorenzo on November 03, 2014, 04:26:36 PM
Well after plenty of practice I have finally gotten good at sharpening my own chains.
Now I am finding that the files don't last very long for me.

I see in the latest Bailey's flyer they are offering a dozen files for 12.99,  Brand is  ( SAVE EDGE )
I haven't used these.
Any advice


What are the best ones to buy if not these?????
Title: Re: Round files for sharpening
Post by: celliott on November 03, 2014, 06:09:00 PM
I've heard save edge are a good file. I use the Pferd files from Baileys, they're fairly aggressive. When they stop cutting good, I toss them. I haven't paid much attention to how long they last.
Title: Re: Round files for sharpening
Post by: beenthere on November 03, 2014, 06:47:33 PM
Lorenzo
We have a new sponsor http://www.shopcomstocklogging.com/ that carries files.  See left column.
Bailey's bowed out of forum support a while back.

What kind of files didn't last very long? I get good results from Stihl files.
Title: Re: Round files for sharpening
Post by: clww on November 03, 2014, 07:28:10 PM
I usually use only Stihl files.
I think I normally get between a week to ten days out of one. It always makes me shake my head when I start with a new one. I never knew just how worn out the old one was until I grabbed the new one.
Title: Re: Round files for sharpening
Post by: luvmexfood on November 03, 2014, 08:58:57 PM
Lorenzo. I just ordered last week from Comstock. Got 5 files for $1.50 each. Don't remember the brand. Same bar for saw was right at $7.00 cheaper than Bailey's and a chain (20 inch Oregon) was $12.95. And the best thing was I had it in two days instead of waiting 7 or 8 days for it to come from the west coast. They have a website but very few of their products are shown on it.
Title: Re: Round files for sharpening
Post by: Lorenzo on November 03, 2014, 09:28:25 PM
Thanks guys,  I will call Comstock in the AM.
Title: Re: Round files for sharpening
Post by: CTYank on November 04, 2014, 01:16:04 AM
Last files I got were Swiss-made "Chipmaster" by Oregon. Something less than $1.40 each by the dozen. I'm still working on the first of each 5/32" & 7/32" since back sometime in last winter.

IME, one of the strengths of the Granberg filing guide is the extreme longevity of lfiles used in it. Of course, I wipe off the chips from the file after doing each tooth. That seems to help.
Title: Re: Round files for sharpening
Post by: Andyshine77 on November 04, 2014, 01:20:47 AM
A common mistake people make is dragging the file on the back stroke. This will dull the file quickly. If you keep the file clean and dot dragging it on the back stroke, a file should last quite a while.
Title: Re: Round files for sharpening
Post by: CR888 on November 04, 2014, 06:36:22 AM
I agree with Andy, if used correctly you should not be going through files quickly...a dozen should last the average Joe years. I use Pferd, Save edge & Vallorbe(still). They are all good files but if l really want to hand file a chain sharp l start with a Pferd coarse and finish with a Pferd smooth cut. IMO a file is only as good as the person using it.
Title: Re: Round files for sharpening
Post by: WUDPIRAT on November 04, 2014, 01:03:54 PM
I have been ordering from Constock for several years and I find the prices and service amoung the best.
I don't know who packs but you need a razor knife to open the packages. They must of heard of the 800# gorilla package handelers. :D
Title: Re: Round files for sharpening
Post by: Reddog on November 04, 2014, 04:32:19 PM
My Stihl dealers price by the box for Stihl files has always been more than fare.
They seem to hold up as well or better than other brands.
So I just keep my business local.
Title: Re: Round files for sharpening
Post by: HolmenTree on November 04, 2014, 07:46:14 PM
Husqvarna (Oregon) and Stihl files for me.
Support your dealer, I go through  3 dozen each year in 3 different sizes.
Title: Re: Round files for sharpening
Post by: Al_Smith on November 04, 2014, 09:09:29 PM
I have no idea how long a file lasts .Best guess is until it gets dull .
Title: Re: Round files for sharpening
Post by: thecfarm on November 04, 2014, 09:30:53 PM
I have never kept track. Kinda like how long it takes for me to saw through a 12 inch hemlock with my mill. I have no idea. I just use one until I feel it's not doing the job and then I grab another one. I buy mine by the dozen.
Title: Re: Round files for sharpening
Post by: sablatnic on November 05, 2014, 11:51:14 AM
I buy my files at the local Stihl / Husqvarna dealer. Use 3 - 4 files to wear out a chain.
Title: Re: Round files for sharpening
Post by: HiTech on November 06, 2014, 09:03:39 PM
Like any file if you clean them they last longer. Metal filings will fill them in.
Title: Re: Round files for sharpening
Post by: Little Al on November 07, 2014, 04:59:55 AM
I use files for sharpening chains for a commercial set up, in my time I guess Iv'e sampled most brands in the time Iv'e been doing it ( except Save Edge ), the problem Iv'e found with branded Stihl, Oregon, Husky,etc.is they are not consistant I think this is because they tender out for supplys so although the box/pack says Oregon they could have been manufactured by one of several company's so differences in quality & time they last, the best 2 I have used have been Vallorbe & Sandvick the quality of these seems to be better & they are consistent.
Title: Re: Round files for sharpening
Post by: sablatnic on November 07, 2014, 09:26:46 AM
It is worse than that, they are not even consistent within the same box!
Title: Re: Round files for sharpening
Post by: Husky562 on November 09, 2014, 10:51:14 PM
For about the last three months I started to use a roto zip with a round Oregon stone I had allways used a round file but I'll never go back, they are the sharpest chains I had ever had. But befor then I used a husqvarna file it worked pretty good and I pack it in my chainsaw box for a quick touch up in the field.
Title: Re: Round files for sharpening
Post by: David-L on November 11, 2014, 06:09:23 AM
I have been finding that in the right scenario that a cleaning with the non-chlorinated brake clean will make them go a little longer. Read this on the forum awhile back and I believe it to be true. I cut a milk jug in 1/2 and spray into it and you can see the filing's.

                                      David l
Title: Re: Round files for sharpening
Post by: jwilly3879 on November 11, 2014, 07:03:29 AM
The worst thing for files is letting the bounce around in the tool box. I have been using files from Forester, we sell them for $10 per dozen and they hold up pretty well. Given the cost of other logging supplies files are a minor expense. Unless a dull file causes a slip and then stitches.
Title: Re: Round files for sharpening
Post by: HiTech on November 17, 2014, 08:17:02 AM
Quote from: jwilly3879 on November 11, 2014, 07:03:29 AM
The worst thing for files is letting the bounce around in the tool box. I have been using files from Forester, we sell them for $10 per dozen and they hold up pretty well. Given the cost of other logging supplies files are a minor expense. Unless a dull file causes a slip and then stitches.
One reason to always wear at least one glove while sharpening. lol Sharpening the right tooth from the left side has gotten me a few times. It will slice you right to the bone. Normally it only happens while holding the bar with one hand and pushing the file with the other. We put a vise on the log loader truck and that helps. I have done it most while touching up in the woods.
Title: Re: Round files for sharpening
Post by: clww on November 17, 2014, 08:31:33 AM
Another reason I wear gloves while sharpening is to keep all that metal dust from getting on my hands. The filings can get under the skin, literally.
Title: Re: Round files for sharpening
Post by: Cedar Savage on November 17, 2014, 09:16:57 AM
I always carry a can of starting fluid with my saw tools, I use it mostly to clean air filters, & files, sometimes the chain before filing. Also put my files in plastic straws, to separate them, & keep them sharp in the tool box. Although there's nothing better than a new file.....
Title: Re: Round files for sharpening
Post by: sablatnic on November 17, 2014, 10:22:26 AM
Why didn't I think of keeping them in straws?!? Will do that from now, colour coded by size!
Title: Re: Round files for sharpening
Post by: John Mc on November 18, 2014, 05:52:41 PM
Plastic straws! It's so obvious once you mention it, but I never would have thought of that,
Title: Re: Round files for sharpening
Post by: HolmenTree on November 18, 2014, 06:04:46 PM
Soft drink straws a little too small for a 7/32" file, but a milkshake straw works fine. :D
Title: Re: Round files for sharpening
Post by: WUDPIRAT on November 19, 2014, 12:41:47 PM
  I thought soda sraws as file holders was common knowledge.
Just as mustard goes on hotdogs and ketchup is for hamburger, if you like ketchup.  I'd rather mustard on bergers and dogs, ketchup is for eggs.      :D
Title: Re: Round files for sharpening
Post by: HiTech on November 20, 2014, 06:45:48 AM
I bought some Total files...seem to be very good. They come 6 to a package, a little pricey if I remember. Well to make a long story short I am on my 3rd. chain and still on the first file. I don't do anything special to the files other than clean them. They make what they call a file card. It cleans the groves in a file. No matter what kind of file it is, square, flat, round, rectangle or pyramid they fill in, the card will clean them.