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Title: Elm? No idea that what i was told
Post by: bornwithnoname on January 22, 2015, 05:31:01 PM

Here is a tree i got dropped off today i was told buy the guy it is hickory but my dad saws possibly elm i have no idea.. smiley_speechless

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look at that lovely anchor in the tree my chainsaw mill will love cutting that smiley_grin

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that why everyone loves yard trees right? at least it inst hidden and i can pull it out.

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So what is it ??? if you need any more pictures of something specific let me know thanks

Title: Re: Elm? No idea that what i was told
Post by: gfadvm on January 22, 2015, 09:07:11 PM

Not sure if they grow where you are but that sure looks like Bois de Arc (hedge, Osage orange, horseapple, and other regional names). We have a lot of it here and it looks just like your pics.

Title: Re: Elm? No idea that what i was told
Post by: WDH on January 22, 2015, 09:52:25 PM

Take a very close-up pic of the end grain. If elm, the latewood pores will be arranged in wavy bands. Very distinctive. Hickory will not have that.

Title: Re: Elm? No idea that what i was told
Post by: mesquite buckeye on January 22, 2015, 10:07:18 PM

Bark looks like Kentucky coffeetree and the wood is the right color. Maybe. :-\

Title: Re: Elm? No idea that what i was told
Post by: WDH on January 22, 2015, 10:10:34 PM

Actually, it does not look like either elm or hickory to me. I do not have any experience with kentucky coffeetree.

Title: Re: Elm? No idea that what i was told
Post by: mesquite buckeye on January 22, 2015, 11:11:39 PM

If there are big fat stubby pods under the tree, that's it. The wood is really nice. Another kind of rare and underused legume tree. I only have a few on the farm, so I haven't cut any. Only seen samples at MO dept of Conservation shows and at a big sawmill. The bark is very hard and upcurling like the one in the picture.

Let's see some pictures when it gets cut up.

Title: Re: Elm? No idea that what i was told
Post by: curdog on January 22, 2015, 11:52:43 PM

I'm not sure if the wood looks similar, but the bark reminds me of black willow.

Title: Re: Elm? No idea that what i was told
Post by: WDH on January 23, 2015, 07:37:54 AM

That wood is ring porous. Rules out willow.

My money is on that Mesquite fellow.

Title: Re: Elm? No idea that what i was told
Post by: bornwithnoname on January 23, 2015, 12:28:16 PM

ok here is an update i got to talk to the guy who brought the tree today because we helped him bring another tree down this morning and he said the tree has long thorns so i now am pretty sure it is honey locus we have cut lots of black locus and those trees smell just like locus but i could be wrong. He said the bark on the young branches were smooth. i will put a couple more pics up i took and hopefully we can verify it is honey locus.

Title: Re: Elm? No idea that what i was told
Post by: mesquite buckeye on January 23, 2015, 12:42:11 PM

Look at the pods laying under the tree. Long, generally twisting reddish pods are honeylocust. Stubby, heavy, blackish pods are Kentucky coffeetree. Either one is worth cutting.

Title: HONEY LOCUS?
Post by: bornwithnoname on January 23, 2015, 12:44:34 PM

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Title: Re: Elm? No idea that what i was told
Post by: bornwithnoname on January 23, 2015, 12:46:51 PM

Quote from: mesquite buckeye on January 23, 2015, 12:42:11 PM
Look at the pods laying under the tree. Long, generally twisting reddish pods are honeylocust. Stubby, heavy, blackish pods are Kentucky coffeetree. Either one is worth cutting.

after lunch im going to take a look at where it was cut down to look at the pods and leaves im now pretty darn sure its a honey locus though but would love an expert to validate that.

Title: Re: Elm? No idea that what i was told
Post by: NWP on January 23, 2015, 06:23:27 PM

Honey locust for sure.

Title: Re: Elm? No idea that what i was told
Post by: curdog on January 23, 2015, 07:00:16 PM

Hmmmm. I can definitely see honey locust now that ya mention it. We don't have a lot of honey locust locally, and none of that size that I can remember. But it does look like honey locust.

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