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Title: Thanks to Peter Drouin for his help
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on March 02, 2015, 07:23:36 PM
I've been thinking about banding my lumber to help it stay together as I loaded it.
I talked to Peter about how he does it and he gave me the info I needed.
The Poly strapping works excellent and makes for a very neat job. The customers love it also.

Here is 833 BF of Black Walnut we did today and ready for loading this Saturday,

Thanks Peter.  :)

 (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/24625/IMG_4684.JPG)
Title: Re: Thanks to Peter Drouin for his help
Post by: Holmes on March 02, 2015, 07:28:38 PM
Nice looking yard.   Where's the SNOW?  We can ship some , alot, to you. :D  That seems to be a great way to keep the orders organized.
Title: Re: Thanks to Peter Drouin for his help
Post by: Magicman on March 02, 2015, 07:29:16 PM
Nice whack.  It sounds like Peter is giving away "Very Valuable" information.  :o
Title: Re: Thanks to Peter Drouin for his help
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on March 02, 2015, 07:30:50 PM
Quote from: Magicman on March 02, 2015, 07:29:16 PM
Nice whack.  It sounds like Peter is giving away "Very Valuable" information.  :o

Very Valuable Information is here for the asking on the Forestry Forum.  ;D
Title: Re: Thanks to Peter Drouin for his help
Post by: thecfarm on March 02, 2015, 07:49:06 PM
Good job Peter. See,you can teach an Old Goat new tricks.  ;D
Title: Re: Thanks to Peter Drouin for his help
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on March 02, 2015, 07:53:24 PM
Quote from: thecfarm on March 02, 2015, 07:49:06 PM
Good job Peter. See,you can teach an Old Goat new tricks.  ;D

If he ain't too HARD HEADED!  ;D
Title: Re: Thanks to Peter Drouin for his help
Post by: Dave Shepard on March 02, 2015, 07:55:34 PM
Sounds like some thank you grits are in order!
Title: Re: Thanks to Peter Drouin for his help
Post by: landscraper on March 02, 2015, 07:57:26 PM
Are you using wire buckles or crimp sleeves?  I use the wire buckles and a ratcheting tensioner, quick, easy and cheap, and I've strapped some big bundles that got loaded with the forks and held together nice and tight.
Title: Re: Thanks to Peter Drouin for his help
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on March 02, 2015, 07:58:59 PM
Quote from: landscraper on March 02, 2015, 07:57:26 PM
Are you using wire buckles or crimp sleeves?  I use the wire buckles and a ratcheting tensioner, quick, easy and cheap, and I've strapped some big bundles that got loaded with the forks and held together nice and tight.

Crimp Sleeve. I am looking into Heat and Melt though.
Title: Re: Thanks to Peter Drouin for his help
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 02, 2015, 08:17:20 PM
All I did was to send you to ULINE.com. Now they will send you a 1" thick magazine 10 times a year. :D :D :D
Nice looking wood there.
One other thing, I like to put a sticker [In the middle of the stack] where I put a band. It will keep the banded wood flat and not round up on the sides.
I have some slings I hang from the forks so I can set banded wood in a trailer or truck with high sides, Without the sticking when you pick it up It would become a round ball of wood and the banding will fall off. :D :D
Title: Re: Thanks to Peter Drouin for his help
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 02, 2015, 08:44:02 PM
Quote from: Dave Shepard on March 02, 2015, 07:55:34 PM
Sounds like some thank you grits are in order!





Don't you start. :snowball: :D
Title: Re: Thanks to Peter Drouin for his help
Post by: WDH on March 02, 2015, 08:48:21 PM
David,

Band me up some black walnut. 
Title: Re: Thanks to Peter Drouin for his help
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on March 02, 2015, 08:48:29 PM
 popcorn_smiley
Title: Re: Thanks to Peter Drouin for his help
Post by: rooster 58 on March 02, 2015, 09:25:50 PM
We tried heat and melt where I worked at a chemical plant. It was a cordless battery type. It was inconsistent for reliability.  I went back to using the crimped sleeve. Now at the mill I use gator strap we a buckle ;)
Title: Re: Thanks to Peter Drouin for his help
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on March 02, 2015, 09:27:54 PM
Quote from: rooster 58 on March 02, 2015, 09:25:50 PM
We tried heat and melt where I worked at a chemical plant. It was a cordless battery type. It was inconsistent for reliability.  I went back to using the crimped sleeve. Now at the mill I use gator strap we a buckle ;)

you have just made up my mind.....no heat.  :D
Title: Re: Thanks to Peter Drouin for his help
Post by: thecfarm on March 02, 2015, 09:40:19 PM
you have just made up my mind.....no grits.  :D
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:D
Title: Re: Thanks to Peter Drouin for his help
Post by: WDH on March 02, 2015, 09:42:49 PM
He still needs to band me up some walnut  :). 
Title: Re: Thanks to Peter Drouin for his help
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on March 02, 2015, 10:35:29 PM
Quote from: WDH on March 02, 2015, 09:42:49 PM
He still needs to band me up some walnut  :).

:D
Title: Re: Thanks to Peter Drouin for his help
Post by: goose63 on March 02, 2015, 10:47:14 PM
Banding goats again  :o
Title: Re: Thanks to Peter Drouin for his help
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on March 02, 2015, 10:53:23 PM
Quote from: Peter Drouin on March 02, 2015, 08:44:02 PM
Quote from: Dave Shepard on March 02, 2015, 07:55:34 PM
Sounds like some thank you grits are in order!





Don't you start. :snowball: :D

OK Goose.......As a great advisor once said....."Don't you start!".  :snowball:
Title: Re: Thanks to Peter Drouin for his help
Post by: barbender on March 03, 2015, 01:21:10 AM
Quote from: goose63 on March 02, 2015, 10:47:14 PM
Banding goats again  :o

    I was just thinking the same thing- what way do you want it goat? Buckle, crimp, or heat? ;D
Title: Re: Thanks to Peter Drouin for his help
Post by: Chuck White on March 03, 2015, 06:38:58 AM
Quote from: barbender on March 03, 2015, 01:21:10 AM
Quote from: goose63 on March 02, 2015, 10:47:14 PM
Banding goats again  :o

    I was just thinking the same thing- what way do you want it goat? Buckle, crimp, or heat? ;D


Now I recall, I saw the Incredible Dr Pol band a goat on his TV show a while back.  ;D

They say it only hurts a little while, David.  ;)
Title: Re: Thanks to Peter Drouin for his help
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on March 03, 2015, 07:09:17 AM
 running-doggy
Title: Re: Thanks to Peter Drouin for his help
Post by: Dave Shepard on March 03, 2015, 10:53:30 AM
Quote from: Chuck White on March 03, 2015, 06:38:58 AM
Quote from: barbender on March 03, 2015, 01:21:10 AM
Quote from: goose63 on March 02, 2015, 10:47:14 PM
Banding goats again  :o

    I was just thinking the same thing- what way do you want it goat? Buckle, crimp, or heat? ;D

Dr. Pol can have the n### off of most anything in about five minutes. :o

Now I recall, I saw the Incredible Dr Pol band a goat on his TV show a while back.  ;D

They say it only hurts a little while, David.  ;)
Title: Re: Thanks to Peter Drouin for his help
Post by: terrifictimbersllc on March 03, 2015, 05:11:16 PM
Y'all aren't very nice. Is there a Dr. Doolittle here on FF who can talk to him?   ::) ::)
Title: Re: Thanks to Peter Drouin for his help
Post by: Brucer on March 04, 2015, 12:52:15 AM
I use the poly with buckles to band up my slab bundles (for sale as firewood). It's amazing how much abuse it can take. I don't ship out much lumber or timbers but the few times I have the poly strapping made things much, much easier.
Title: Re: Thanks to Peter Drouin for his help
Post by: customsawyer on March 04, 2015, 01:37:38 AM
I got the banding a while back and it sure makes things nice.
Title: Re: Thanks to Peter Drouin for his help
Post by: justallan1 on March 04, 2015, 06:44:08 AM
What size strapping are you guys using? On 8' I've made full units, but on 16' I'll only be able to make 1/2 units because of weight. Any recommendations are appreciated.

Allan
Title: Re: Thanks to Peter Drouin for his help
Post by: terrifictimbersllc on March 04, 2015, 07:36:08 AM
I've used orange Kubinec 3/4 poly strapping with buckles and a very simple tensioning bar, when the customer needs strapping done.  Industrial results. Got these strapping supplies here, Bailey's sells them too....
http://www.ptipackaging.com/packaging-supplies/strapping-supplies/woven-strapping-tools/kubinec-tension-bar.html



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Title: Re: Thanks to Peter Drouin for his help
Post by: WDH on March 04, 2015, 08:30:32 PM
Nicely prepared slabs. 
Title: Re: Thanks to Peter Drouin for his help
Post by: PineNut on March 06, 2015, 12:33:30 PM
I use the poly straps and buckles. Since the straps and buckles can be reused I will band anything that is to my advantage. I stick and band slabs for firewood.
Title: Re: Thanks to Peter Drouin for his help
Post by: hackberry jake on March 06, 2015, 02:25:27 PM
We use the crimp sleeves at work. We use a pair of channel locks to squeeze the sleeve in place and then come back with the crimpers. Much easier than trying to hold it in place.
Title: Re: Thanks to Peter Drouin for his help
Post by: landscraper on March 06, 2015, 07:11:23 PM
Quote from: justallan1 on March 04, 2015, 06:44:08 AM
What size strapping are you guys using? On 8' I've made full units, but on 16' I'll only be able to make 1/2 units because of weight. Any recommendations are appreciated.

Allan

1/2" & 3/4" poly, I bought some from Uline, some from a local pack&ship store who ordered it in for me.

I use the 1/2" for odds and ends, stake bundles, small mixed orders, I use the 3/4" for the full hacks of material.  I use a combo hand ratchet/band cutter that tensions and cuts off the loose end.  I think it will tension and cut up to 1" wide strap.
Title: Re: Thanks to Peter Drouin for his help
Post by: Brucer on March 10, 2015, 12:49:27 AM
I use the 3/4" strapping. I tell me firewood customers if they cut the strapping next to the buckle, I can re-use the strap and the buckle. Most of them bring back the used straps when they come for another load. That's the big advantage (for me) of using buckles -- I can keep re-using them.

I started off with the simple lever tensioner. Once it became obvious that this was the best way to bundle my slabs, I bought a ratchet tensioner so I could get the bundles tighter.