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Title: Argos 2015
Post by: Puffergas on June 02, 2015, 11:54:59 PM
It will take some time to upload the pictures from my phone but here's the start of the pictures.

Below is my good friend Mike relighting a flare for a fellow gasser.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/19539/IMG_20150529_211529.jpg)


Wood gasifier:
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/19539/IMG_20150530_210452.jpg)


The ring of fire:
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/19539/IMG_20150530_152056.jpg)


One more of the "ring of fire"
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/19539/IMG_20150530_151120.jpg)

Title: Re: Argos 2015
Post by: mad murdock on June 03, 2015, 07:51:30 AM
Cool stuff ! Thanks for posting.  :)
Title: Re: Argos 2015
Post by: Puffergas on June 05, 2015, 12:23:43 AM
A pic of the trucks lined up:

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/19539/IMG_20150530_145848.jpg)


One more:

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/19539/IMG_20150530_145619.jpg)

More later.
Title: Re: Argos 2015
Post by: thecfarm on June 05, 2015, 06:27:40 AM
Who came the farthest away on thier own power?
Title: Re: Argos 2015
Post by: Puffergas on June 05, 2015, 01:08:52 PM
Quote from: thecfarm on June 05, 2015, 06:27:40 AM
Who came the farthest away on thier own power?

Good question. I don't know but I kind of recall something like 1800 miles. There was too much going on.... It just seems like a dream now. I'll see if I can find out.


Jeff
Title: Re: Argos 2015
Post by: Puffergas on June 06, 2015, 11:31:46 PM
A couple pictures of the returning parade:

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/19539/IMG_20150530_144241.jpg)

And:
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/19539/IMG_20150530_144221.jpg)

Ron, our host, is driving his tractor. This event would never happen without him. Thank you Ron!

More later,
Jeff
Title: Re: Argos 2015
Post by: Puffergas on June 06, 2015, 11:47:25 PM
Quote from: thecfarm on June 05, 2015, 06:27:40 AM
Who came the farthest away on thier own power?

I got a few replies already:

Tom wrote:
"It was 630 miles one way for me. Used 800 lbs of wood and 30 gal of gasoline. I think I'm just a baby compared to the others. But still one of the cheapest educations I ever got"


Carl wrote:
"My odometer showed 813 one way. About 800 lbs. of wood, and 13 gal of gasoline for hybrid driving. The trip home was very similar."



Cheers,
Jeff
Title: Re: Argos 2015
Post by: roadhunter on June 06, 2015, 11:52:10 PM
Now that is really cool.  Looks like around 1 pound per mile.  Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Argos 2015
Post by: thecfarm on June 07, 2015, 07:29:41 AM
I was kinda wondering the range on them things.  :)  And how much they trust them to travel far from home. Interesting.
Have wood,will travel.  ;D
Title: Re: Argos 2015
Post by: Puffergas on June 07, 2015, 12:47:45 PM
Quote from: thecfarm on June 07, 2015, 07:29:41 AM
I was kinda wondering the range on them things.  :)  And how much they trust them to travel far from home. Interesting.
Have wood,will travel.  ;D

It depends on the size of the fuel hopper and the size of the vehicle. On an average 50 miles for a small hopper and about 120 miles for a larger one.

Reliability depends on the experiance of the  builder. Wayne drove across the country and earned the land speed record for wood gas. They can become very reliable but the operator is about 75% of the equation.

Jeff
Title: Re: Argos 2015
Post by: roadhunter on June 07, 2015, 01:26:32 PM
I never understood exactly how it worked until I made some biochar and watched the syngas burn.  Really cool that some folks make cars that run off wood. 
Title: Re: Argos 2015
Post by: Puffergas on June 08, 2015, 01:00:38 AM
And now some wood chunkers.

This one was powered by an electric motor or a lawn mower with a homemade PTO. The mower was fueled with a charcoal and a wood gasifier, two different units:

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/19539/IMG_20150529_142724.jpg)

photo #2:

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/19539/IMG_20150529_142729.jpg)

photo #3:

  (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/19539/IMG_20150529_212133.jpg)

photo #4:

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/19539/IMG_20150529_212146.jpg)

photo #5:

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/19539/IMG_20150530_141702.jpg)

photo #6:

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/19539/IMG_20150530_141726.jpg)



Jeff
Title: Re: Argos 2015
Post by: r.man on June 09, 2015, 08:03:00 AM
Great pictures, thanks for taking the time. As to the reliability of the gasifier system, with a hybrid you can run on the standard fuel if the gasser has problems.
Title: Re: Argos 2015
Post by: r.man on June 09, 2015, 08:56:58 AM
Puffer, as to chunkers I think that this design would be be a good choice for someone with access to branchwood, either for a cook stove, a gasifier or charcoal maker.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzPZU1Q5-bY
Title: Re: Argos 2015
Post by: r.man on June 09, 2015, 09:00:37 AM
This one is more of a firewood processor for stoves.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqxFK9uBJao
Title: Re: Argos 2015
Post by: Puffergas on June 10, 2015, 12:18:06 AM
Quote from: r.man on June 09, 2015, 09:00:37 AM
This one is more of a firewood processor for stoves.

This one is amazing. Must have something like planer blades in it..

Jeff
Title: Re: Argos 2015
Post by: r.man on June 11, 2015, 11:01:25 AM
Odds are a Rebak machine would be like a torch with an igniter if one gets to Argos. One will be there one year and then  everyone will want one. The speed is phenomenal compared to a chunker although you do have to limit yourself to certain sizes of raw material.
Title: Re: Argos 2015
Post by: Puffergas on June 13, 2015, 01:22:42 AM
Returning from the parade around town.

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/19539/IMG_20150530_144210.jpg)

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/19539/IMG_20150530_144152.jpg)


Charcoal area.

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/19539/IMG_20150530_142003.jpg)

Some charcoal grinding going on here. Maybe I should say sizing charcoal.

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/19539/IMG_20150530_141945.jpg)

Sterling engine.

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/19539/IMG_20150530_141929.jpg)

Gary Gilmore's rig. Nice inverter alternator.

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/19539/IMG_20150530_141906.jpg)

Time to hit the hay.....


Jeff
Title: Re: Argos 2015
Post by: Ljohnsaw on June 13, 2015, 02:29:37 AM
Gasser are pretty neat but I bet that tractor would get mighty uncomfortable in the summer time with that stove right next to you!

Wow, those chunkers are amazing!  Are they chunking green wood or dry?  It seems like green would be easier and would dry out pretty quick.
Title: Re: Argos 2015
Post by: Puffergas on June 14, 2015, 06:47:24 PM
Quote from: ljohnsaw on June 13, 2015, 02:29:37 AM
Gasser are pretty neat but I bet that tractor would get mighty uncomfortable in the summer time with that stove right next to you!

Wow, those chunkers are amazing!  Are they chunking green wood or dry?  It seems like green would be easier and would dry out pretty quick.

I think your right about the green wood.

For sure it's not an A/C unit. However a gas producer is designed to make gas that gets burned inside an engine so if all the wood got burned up in that big tank, by the driver, there wouldn't be anything left over for the engine...    :)

So about 80% of the heat ends up in the engine.


Jeff
Title: Re: Argos 2015
Post by: gww on June 14, 2015, 07:24:11 PM
I am surprized I missed this thread till just now.  Building a gassifier is on my "to do" list to run a generator.  I have wanted to for about 5 years and have not did it yet but it hasn't droped off my "to do" list yet either.
Cool
gww
Title: Re: Argos 2015
Post by: maple flats on June 15, 2015, 07:55:31 PM
I also have a gasifier in my future plans. I have much but not all of the necessary parts accumulated. I bought a 15,000 watt Generac that I hope to run with it. I have a fuel tube that is 8" diameter, hoping that is matched right to run the genny. I hope to build it in the next year or 2, my wife wants it built yesterday.
Title: Re: Argos 2015
Post by: Puffergas on June 24, 2015, 12:34:19 AM
A few more pictures..

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/19539/IMG_20150530_141817.jpg)

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/19539/IMG_20150530_141746.jpg)

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/19539/IMG_20150530_141643.jpg)

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/19539/IMG_20150530_141551.jpg)


Later,


Jeff
Title: Re: Argos 2015
Post by: beenthere on June 24, 2015, 02:41:18 AM
Be great if you'd put some words to what you are showing us. Otherwise... just pics.

How about telling us a bit about what is going on in the pics... ?? pls.
Title: Re: Argos 2015
Post by: Puffergas on June 24, 2015, 01:19:04 PM
Quote from: beenthere on June 24, 2015, 02:41:18 AM
Be great if you'd put some words to what you are showing us. Otherwise... just pics.

How about telling us a bit about what is going on in the pics... ?? pls.

Beenthere,

The top is Matt's gasifier called the Vulcan. It uses wood.

The green car uses wood. Not sure what the lawn tractor to the left of it runs on.

The red lawn tractor (gasifier on rear) uses charcoal for fuel and an interesting popcorn filter.

The bottom picture is a Wheel Horse garden tractor. Think it runs on wood but not sure.


Jeff