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Title: Ford diesel question
Post by: xlogger on July 06, 2015, 06:44:15 AM
I'm thinking about getting a new used truck to pull my goose neck trailers. I usually pull around 4-5 tons of wood when I pick some up that makes my total weigh around 22000 lbs. I have a one ton Dodge cummins now that does a good job but need a four wheel drive. I see a lot of Fords for sale around here but heard of some problems with one of their diesel motors and can't remember which one. I'm also thinking about just getting a 3/4 ton truck, this is not a every day job for the truck and several friends have a 3/4 that they use for their gooseneck trailers. Anyone with pros and cons on the Fords?
I'm also thinking about just getting a gas engine no more than I use it for hauling. Maybe just use it once every other week.
Title: Re: Ford diesel question
Post by: sprucebunny on July 06, 2015, 07:05:19 AM
It's the 6.0 Ford diesel that had lots of problems.
7.3 is the best but discontinued mid-2003.
Title: Re: Ford diesel question
Post by: goose63 on July 06, 2015, 07:08:41 AM
I have a 94 f250 with a 7.3 turbo that thing will pull most any thing I put behind  it
Title: Re: Ford diesel question
Post by: snowstorm on July 06, 2015, 05:26:11 PM
the best one is the 6.7. everyone likes to complain about the 6.0 almost all the problems have been solved. i still have one along with a 7.3 and a 6.7. i like the 6.0 better than the 7.3. if you are thinking gas try a v10 ford they run very well smooth and lots of power
Title: Re: Ford diesel question
Post by: gspren on July 06, 2015, 06:16:11 PM
  I have owned and towed with the 7.3, the 6.4, and the 6.7 and I like the new 6.7 best. Adding DEF to the new Ford diesels is no big deal, much easier than the GMs I've seen although they may have improved also.
Title: Re: Ford diesel question
Post by: brendonv on July 06, 2015, 07:50:05 PM
Ive got a 7.3 daily driver thats nothing but hassle free, and a 6.7 work truck thats the same.  Skip the 6.0 and 6.4. 2003.5-2010
Title: Re: Ford diesel question
Post by: kiko on July 07, 2015, 12:04:28 AM
I own one with the 6.0.  Whenever I am hooked to a big load I worry that I may disrupt the rotation of the earth if I mash to much.
Title: Re: Ford diesel question
Post by: grweldon on July 07, 2015, 04:05:46 PM
I have a 1999 F250 with the 7.3.  193K miles on it, still runs great.  I pulled a 5 ton backhoe with it on a 16' gooseneck with no problems.
Title: Re: Ford diesel question
Post by: Corley5 on July 07, 2015, 05:36:40 PM
Stick with a Cummins.
Title: Re: Ford diesel question
Post by: justallan1 on July 07, 2015, 07:23:14 PM
I have a '93 3/4 ton 4x4 Ford with the 7.3 and love it. It has better than 300,000 miles on it and I thinks it's still stronger than most of the work trucks on the ranch including a V-10 Triton, a couple 6.0s and a 6.7 ;D
I frequently drag around a 1,000 gallon bumper pull water wagon and it wouldn't be hard to forget it's there and I'd sure bet that thing goes over 10,000 GVW.
It's old enough that it was only $4,000 in perfect shape when I got it 4-5 years ago, but not so old that I can't get parts anywhere I go. I'll be hunting another when it comes time.
Title: Re: Ford diesel question
Post by: snowstorm on July 07, 2015, 08:27:48 PM
i plowed roads with a 93 f350 7.3 idi for several yrs. it plowed ok but it didnt have power enough to spin a wheel on ice. they were 180hp. the later 7.3 stroke was 235hp? my 97 is 225hp 500lbs tq. my 6.0 was325 and 575 my f550 6.0 is cut back to 275hp and the hot rot of the fleet 6.7 is 400hp and 800lbs tq it seems to wear out rear tires faster than the others
Title: Re: Ford diesel question
Post by: Dixon700 on July 08, 2015, 03:03:06 AM
Quote from: Corley5 on July 07, 2015, 05:36:40 PM
Stick with a Cummins.
I second this.
Title: Re: Ford diesel question
Post by: xlogger on July 08, 2015, 06:32:21 AM
Yes on the cummins also. I have one and it great but Dodge sure didn't do well with the transmission. Built mine at near 100,000 mile and now at 170,000 it jumping in and out of overdrive at lower speeds.
Title: Re: Ford diesel question
Post by: xlogger on July 13, 2015, 06:58:50 AM
Just looked at a 6.0 on CL's. Said that egr delete done but also new injectors and head bolts replaced, 183000 miles. Is this normal for injectors and head bolts? It has 10 ft flat bed, I want to put gooseneck hookup on it, anyone got one hookup like this? Longer than what I have now, but would like the 10 for hauling lumber. Just wondering if it might pull better or worst?
Title: Re: Ford diesel question
Post by: scsmith42 on July 13, 2015, 07:21:56 AM
Quote from: xlogger on July 13, 2015, 06:58:50 AM
Just looked at a 6.0 on CL's. Said that egr delete done but also new injectors and head bolts replaced, 183000 miles. Is this normal for injectors and head bolts? It has 10 ft flat bed, I want to put gooseneck hookup on it, anyone got one hookup like this? Longer than what I have now, but would like the 10 for hauling lumber. Just wondering if it might pull better or worst?

Ricky, the weak spot with the 6/0's are the head bolts and the EGR cooler.  After removing the cooler and replacing the head bolts with higher grade studs, the engines are much more trouble free.  If you allow them to routinely idle long periods, the turbo'd can carbon up and the variable vane mechanism will stick.

A flat bed with a gooseneck ball recessed in a pocket in the middle is quite common and a great setup.  The main thing that you'll have to check with a 10' bed is if the gooseneck tongue has adequate clearance.  One of my goosenecks will clear a 10' bed, the other won't.
Title: Re: Ford diesel question
Post by: xlogger on July 13, 2015, 07:37:24 AM
Scott, he did say in the ad that it runs good but not idles well. I have two goose neck trailers, one has a longer reach than the other. The short one is hardly enough room to get between the truck and trailer on my 8 ft bed pickup.
Title: Re: Ford diesel question
Post by: scsmith42 on July 14, 2015, 11:18:18 PM
Quote from: xlogger on July 13, 2015, 07:37:24 AM
Scott, he did say in the ad that it runs good but not idles well. I have two goose neck trailers, one has a longer reach than the other. The short one is hardly enough room to get between the truck and trailer on my 8 ft bed pickup.

I would be afraid of the idling problem....
Title: Re: Ford diesel question
Post by: snowstorm on July 15, 2015, 06:08:23 AM
the 04 i traded for a new truck would idle uneven sometimes. it might do it twice in one day then not again for a month. the scan tool said ficm low voltage. i replaced it . one thing about the 6.0 it comes with a really good auto trans. 5sp vs the old 4sp the 7.3 used
Title: Re: Ford diesel question
Post by: brendonv on July 15, 2015, 02:58:58 PM
Why buy an originally problematic engine with and obvious problem?  Keep looking.
Title: Re: Ford diesel question
Post by: LUV2MILL on July 15, 2015, 04:51:17 PM
I have an 2001 F250 2wheel drive 7.3 with 430,000 miles on it and I love it. Had to change the injectors at about 410,000 miles but other than that just oil changes and fuel filters.