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General Forestry => Drying and Processing => Topic started by: Woodslabs on July 20, 2015, 08:48:39 PM

Title: Pin-less moisture meters
Post by: Woodslabs on July 20, 2015, 08:48:39 PM
Can someone recommend a good pin-less moisture meter that doesn't cost a gazzilion dollars? :)
Title: Re: Pin-less moisture meters
Post by: Magicman on July 20, 2015, 09:19:03 PM
I have a Wagner that only cost ½ a gazzilion dollars.   :o
Title: Re: Pin-less moisture meters
Post by: Woodslabs on July 20, 2015, 10:28:45 PM
:)

Which unit do you have?
Title: Re: Pin-less moisture meters
Post by: WDH on July 21, 2015, 07:41:20 AM
I have the MMC210.  You are looking at $375.
Title: Re: Pin-less moisture meters
Post by: Magicman on July 21, 2015, 05:20:57 PM
I was sure that my old analog Wagner L606 was no longer available so I did some Googling.


 (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/20011/DSCN0201.JPG)
Much to my surprise, the EBAY price is a gazzilion dollars.  :o

Here is the one that WDH has:  Wagner (http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=wagner+moisture&tag=mh0b-20&index=tools&hvadid=4966241342&hvqmt=p&hvbmt=bp&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_7q611r9h_p)
Title: Re: Pin-less moisture meters
Post by: GeneWengert-WoodDoc on July 21, 2015, 10:29:06 PM
I have upgraded to the digital version of the L606, but used the 606 for many years...maybe 20.

It is important to use the same MC meter that your customer will use.  If you use a different brand or type, then you will likely see some differences in MC and the customer may complain that you have lumber that is too wet or too dry.

A key component of the painless is getting the correct density number.  Some old values are not correct.  For example, cottonwood is better at 0.44.  Further, variations in density of the wood cause variations in MC readings, even though there are not actual MC variations.

For those that do not know about meters, they are useful for measuring dry lumber MCs, but not above 28% MC, so they are not very good for running a kiln on a day to day basis.
Title: Re: Pin-less moisture meters
Post by: WDH on July 22, 2015, 07:20:48 AM
The density variations within a board leads to different m% in different places on the board when using the pinless meter, and that can be confusing. 
Title: Re: Pin-less moisture meters
Post by: Woodslabs on July 27, 2015, 03:09:50 PM
I bought a used wrangler MMC 210 meter but for some reason it looks to be inaccurate.  Like my maple dining room table measures at like 23%. All my air drying wood at 32%.  For some reason every measurement i take is really high.  Anyone know what could be the issue?  I know about changing the species.  Any help would be great.

it gives me a 12-15% reading just in the air

Thanks,
Mike
Title: Re: Pin-less moisture meters
Post by: Woodslabs on July 27, 2015, 08:21:27 PM
Nm i changed the battery and it now works fine.  This thing is great.  One thing i noticed is how unevenly wood dries.  Some areas can differ by 5%+
Title: Re: Pin-less moisture meters
Post by: Escavader on August 19, 2015, 05:49:16 PM
Wagner hand held like in pic before.but a Wagner with a 4 ft wand to reach middle of stickered packs for my kiln.zillion dollars times3
Title: Re: Pin-less moisture meters
Post by: fat olde elf on August 20, 2015, 05:18:52 PM
Another great reason to attend the annual Pig Roast is that you may win a Wagner 220 pinless moisture meter. I did on August 1, 2015



















Another great reason to attend the annual Pig Roast is that you may win a Wagner 220 pinless moisture  meter.  I did on August 1.2015......... WDH came right up and showed me what I had won.
I am forever grateful.............Mark the first Saturday in August............







Title: Re: Pin-less moisture meters
Post by: WDH on August 20, 2015, 08:27:14 PM
Yes, you lucky rascal!