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Title: sawmill question
Post by: Byron sawman on December 30, 2015, 07:46:34 PM
Thanks for adding me. I recently acquired a Belsaw circular sawmill that was put together with pieces and parts. I think I've almost got it workable. My main question is; should the blade be dished toward the log or the board. I have acquired one blade of each, which do I use. Thanks in advance for any advice you have and Happy New Year to all.
Title: Re: sawmill question
Post by: Gearbox on December 30, 2015, 08:42:35 PM
The saw cup should be toward the board . It should be almost in contact with the board side saw guide when stopped and when up to speed it should not hit the guides 1/16 max on each side
Title: Re: sawmill question
Post by: beenthere on December 30, 2015, 09:07:07 PM
Maybe this will help too. Very popular among circular saw people.

http://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/misc/circsaw.pdf
Title: Re: sawmill question
Post by: Chuck White on December 30, 2015, 10:09:35 PM
Welcome to the Forestry Forum, Byron sawman.
Title: Re: sawmill question
Post by: dgdrls on December 31, 2015, 07:50:25 AM
Welcome to the FF Byron sawman.

For the blade to cut without heating and distorting it should be flat on the log side.
How big are the blades you have and are they fixed tooth or inserted tooth?

Dan
Title: Re: sawmill question
Post by: Solomon on December 31, 2015, 08:15:08 AM
This should be an interesting thread,  I know nothing of Circle Mills so I will be watching this thread from the side lines.
You've come to the right place, this site is akin to an Encyclopedia of knowledge when it comes to saw mills and related topics.
Thanks for bringing this to the forum !! :P
Title: Re: sawmill question
Post by: Gearbox on January 01, 2016, 04:28:31 PM
I may not have been clear when I said board side . I should have used cant side or log side . I guess I was speaking Minnesota .
Title: Re: sawmill question
Post by: Magicman on January 01, 2016, 10:22:10 PM
Welcome to the Forestry Forum, Byron sawman.  These "circle saw guys" will steer you correctly.   :P
Title: Re: sawmill question
Post by: DMcCoy on January 02, 2016, 08:03:28 AM
Welcome. The blade should have the concave side towards the carriage side or log side when stopped.  With the blade teeth turning toward you if the log passes on the right it is a right hand mill.
Title: Re: sawmill question
Post by: Byron sawman on January 05, 2016, 05:58:00 PM
Thanks for all of the welcomes. Looking forward to learning a lot from the members of this forum. I've sent my blade out to be re-tensioned. Should have it back in a couple of days. Thank-you all for the helping hand.
Title: Re: sawmill question
Post by: Lambee10 on January 08, 2016, 04:40:39 PM
Welcome.  Good to have another Belsaw in action.  Keep asking questions as you come across them.  I did. 
Title: Re: sawmill question
Post by: Darrel on January 08, 2016, 10:38:33 PM
Good to have you on board Byron sawman. My only experience with a circle mill was when I was about 25, I pulled greenchain in a mill that had a 60" saw on the bottom and a 42" top saw and if they didn't run right the saw filer would take them off and pound on them with a big hammer.  And they had removable teeth as I recall.
Title: Re: sawmill question
Post by: Sixacresand on January 09, 2016, 08:35:02 AM
Welcome to the Forum, Byron Sawman.   I used to dream of having a Belsaw when I saw their ads in the back magazines like Popular Mechanics.  Good luck!
Title: Re: sawmill question
Post by: Byron sawman on January 16, 2016, 05:37:31 PM
I am looking for Belsaw parts. I'm getting very tired of losing the can't. I have a worn out locking dog cam for my carriage. It has straight cut knurling that is worn out. I am looking for another cam or someone's better simple idea of modifying what I have to work. I have a pretty crude machine shop, but have a lot of fabricating knowledge. Thanks again for your time and patience.
Title: Re: sawmill question
Post by: Kbeitz on January 16, 2016, 06:14:30 PM
Why not anneal it and reknural it and reharden it.
Title: Re: sawmill question
Post by: Chuck White on January 16, 2016, 06:40:18 PM
Welcome to the Forestry Forum, Byron sawman.
Title: Re: sawmill question
Post by: Byron sawman on January 16, 2016, 08:21:39 PM
I'm sorry I forgot to mention that it is cast iron from the sparks. I also had an idea that I could locate an indexing head and use a cutoff wheel on the mill to repair it? Still would rather have a new one or make a new one.
Title: Re: sawmill question
Post by: Kbeitz on January 16, 2016, 09:41:32 PM
If you have the tools and it sounds like you do then i would make one out of drill rod.
You can buy it from McMaster Carr. It comes soft so you can lathe it.
When your finished it's real easy to harden it.

Title: Re: sawmill question
Post by: Byron sawman on January 24, 2016, 04:13:15 PM
Hi Guys, This sawmill has been a real struggle. I bought this as a basket case. I thought the basics was all here. I have had a lot of frustrating adventures trying to bring it back. Does anyone have any information, books, photographs or some location where I might be able to find these? I was told this was a Belsaw but I see no information so far on which one it is, considering I have three casted stands with wood mounted on top of them as part of the frame. Any information would be appreciated, thank-you.
Title: Re: sawmill question
Post by: dgdrls on January 24, 2016, 05:04:40 PM
Hi Byron,

Search the web under Foley Belsaw,  I think you will find some
good nuggets,

Post some photos of what you have and lets see if we can help you
get this machine sawing straight.

Best
Dan
Title: Re: sawmill question
Post by: Byron sawman on February 01, 2016, 02:52:08 AM
How can I attach pictures to a post or start a gallery?
Title: Re: sawmill question
Post by: dgdrls on February 01, 2016, 05:45:51 AM
https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php/topic,61788.0.html

follow the link for photo posting

Dan
Title: Re: sawmill question
Post by: beenthere on February 01, 2016, 10:16:02 AM
Good on getting your pics in your album/gallery.

How to put them in a post is spelled out just under the pic you want, and is just a "copy and paste".
Title: Re: sawmill question
Post by: Byron sawman on February 01, 2016, 07:06:19 PM
My wife figured out how to start a gallery of photos. Please feel free to check them out. I would love to know more about what parts this mill is made of. Thanks again guys.
Title: Re: sawmill question
Post by: beenthere on February 01, 2016, 08:05:25 PM
You put the pics in your posts when you explain to us what they are about... Look forward to that..
Title: Re: sawmill question
Post by: Byron sawman on February 11, 2016, 01:42:55 AM
Byron sawman's wife here. I'm sorry about the picture mix-up, I have tried several times but I still can't figure out how to take pictures from the gallery we created and put them into a post or reply. There just must be something I'm missing or doing wrong.   
Title: Re: sawmill question
Post by: Ianab on February 11, 2016, 03:10:22 AM
Quote from: Byron sawman on February 11, 2016, 01:42:55 AM
Byron sawman's wife here. I'm sorry about the picture mix-up, I have tried several times but I still can't figure out how to take pictures from the gallery we created and put them into a post or reply. There just must be something I'm missing or doing wrong.

When you click on the small pictures in your gallery it will bring up the large photo and a whole lot more info.

Find the bit that says "To use the above photo in a Forestry Forum post" and copy the code below that.
[img]https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/41730/DSCF0225.JPG[/img]

and you get

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/41730/DSCF0225.JPG)
Title: Re: sawmill question
Post by: Kbeitz on February 11, 2016, 05:44:47 AM
Quote from: Ianab on February 11, 2016, 03:10:22 AM
Quote from: Byron sawman on February 11, 2016, 01:42:55 AM
Byron sawman's wife here. I'm sorry about the picture mix-up, I have tried several times but I still can't figure out how to take pictures from the gallery we created and put them into a post or reply. There just must be something I'm missing or doing wrong.

When you click on the small pictures in your gallery it will bring up the large photo and a whole lot more info.

Find the bit that says "To use the above photo in a Forestry Forum post" and copy the code below that.
[img]https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/41730/DSCF0225.JPG[/img]

and you get

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/41730/DSCF0225.JPG)

Wow... I would like to see more pictures of that machine...
Title: Re: sawmill question
Post by: Seavee on February 11, 2016, 07:43:35 AM
That sure does look interesting.  I would like to see a video of it running.
Title: Re: sawmill question
Post by: Byron sawman on February 28, 2016, 05:11:32 AM
 

 (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/41730/DSCF0231.JPG)
Another attempt, wish me luck.
Title: Re: sawmill question
Post by: Slingshot on February 28, 2016, 09:18:13 AM


     You don't have to copy and paste if you go down under the picture to
  where it states to...... 'INSERT IMAGE IN POST' ....Click on that and
  you will get a note asking if you want to insert image in post...click 'yes' and
  the picture goes to your post.  (that is how I do it)


 (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/18700/IMG_0676.JPG)
Title: Re: sawmill question
Post by: lewis on February 28, 2016, 05:16:40 PM
I have some dogs, but I am on a tug at this time,I won't be home until mid march, if you still need them I could ship them to you