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Title: Granddaddy's one man saw
Post by: yukon cornelius on January 13, 2016, 10:19:24 AM
 

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 (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/33654/IMG_20160113_081146.jpg) My son started a new handle for this saw and I decided to join in. This was my granddad's and might have been great granddad's. My mom thinks it was but not sure. It was missing the proper bolts and medallion but just last week looking through some rust filled jars of his things I kept I found a full set. Seems he knew I would find them some day. I Hope he looks down and smiles.my boy sure does good work! He did most of it.
Title: Re: Granddaddy's one man saw
Post by: mesquite buckeye on January 13, 2016, 10:49:27 AM
Neat. ;D 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) :snowball:

Is that hickory?
Title: Re: Granddaddy's one man saw
Post by: beenthere on January 13, 2016, 10:55:18 AM
Will he try to restore the teeth? Looks to have had some sharpening problems along the way..

Good shot at the handle making.
Title: Re: Granddaddy's one man saw
Post by: lowpolyjoe on January 13, 2016, 11:07:09 AM
Great looking handle  8)

That tooth pattern does look interesting - do you know if it was purposefully filed differently in the front and back of the plate? 
Title: Re: Granddaddy's one man saw
Post by: yukon cornelius on January 13, 2016, 11:29:50 AM
It is an oak species but I am not a great woodologist. He is going to sharpen it to play around. He bought one a while back and made a handle for it and sharpened it. He uses his in his projects. As for those teeth, I don't know what is up with them. I have granddaddy's two man and it has a very similar pattern.
Title: Re: Granddaddy's one man saw
Post by: Just Me on January 13, 2016, 11:48:48 AM
I cut my firewood for two years when I was in my twenties with one of those. Still have it but I much prefer my 357XP these days. 8)

People used to ask me all the time what was wrong with my arm because my right arm was about twice the size of my left.
Title: Re: Granddaddy's one man saw
Post by: beenthere on January 13, 2016, 12:53:03 PM
Here is a good place to start to learn about filing... one of a series of vids with excellent detail and explanation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kD976NlxrSE
Title: Re: Granddaddy's one man saw
Post by: Hilltop366 on January 13, 2016, 02:14:35 PM
Nice job on the handle!

beenthere I thought it was Red Green in the video until i clicked on it! :D
Title: Re: Granddaddy's one man saw
Post by: Haggis on January 13, 2016, 02:30:40 PM
Quote from: Hilltop366 on January 13, 2016, 02:14:35 PM
Nice job on the handle!

beenthere I thought it was Red Green in the video until i clicked on it! :D

I thought the same thing. :)
Title: Re: Granddaddy's one man saw
Post by: Kbeitz on January 13, 2016, 05:05:29 PM
Watching that video I learned sometjhing today.
I never knew what a saw spider was....




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Title: Re: Granddaddy's one man saw
Post by: Bruno of NH on January 13, 2016, 08:20:04 PM
Great job on the handle !
Title: Re: Granddaddy's one man saw
Post by: hackberry jake on January 13, 2016, 08:43:54 PM
I've always wanted to try cutting a tree down with a two man saw and an axe. Just to say I did. Sweet heirloom!
Title: Re: Granddaddy's one man saw
Post by: yukon cornelius on January 13, 2016, 10:43:41 PM
Thanks everyone! Been there, I will show him that video, thanks. He has the saw sharpening section of Roy Underhills books memorized. It did look like red green. I have cut one tree with a 2 man, a small tree. It takes 2 well synchronised people or you are just fighting each other. I am cutting some wood tomorrow so I may just do it again. I cut a few down with an ax when I was a kid. I wanted to be a real mountain man. Now I just look like one and sorta live like one. I will get a picture of me and bark beetle knocking down a tree tomorrow.
Title: Re: Granddaddy's one man saw
Post by: beenthere on January 13, 2016, 11:54:08 PM
The trick with a 2-man is for each man to only pull the saw through the cut.
When one or the other tries to push, it doesn't work and a bent saw blade can be the result.
Title: Re: Granddaddy's one man saw
Post by: Al_Smith on January 14, 2016, 07:12:30 AM
My father who was born in 1920 told  about cross cut saws and early gear drive chainsaws which were rare because few could afford them .

Two strapping farm boys on a cross cut could make good time bucking logs ,faster than the old power saws .Problem was they couldn't  out last the gasoline engines .

I've got two 6 foot 2 man cross cuts and one 5 foot single buck in my collection .Hanging in the shed where they shall remain as I have no  intent on using them. Preservation of the past .
Title: Re: Granddaddy's one man saw
Post by: Just Me on January 14, 2016, 07:51:35 AM
Quote from: beenthere on January 13, 2016, 11:54:08 PM
The trick with a 2-man is for each man to only pull the saw through the cut.
When one or the other tries to push, it doesn't work and a bent saw blade can be the result.

My brother and I could keep in sync with a two man and make short work of firewood, but I never found anyone else that could make it click. Kinda fun, at least when you are young. All this has made me want to sharpen up the one man and give it one more go.
Title: Re: Granddaddy's one man saw
Post by: 21incher on January 14, 2016, 08:15:04 AM
Nice job on the handle. It is nice to see one of those saws that is not all painted up for sale at a craft show. :)
Title: Re: Granddaddy's one man saw
Post by: pineywoods on January 14, 2016, 09:15:17 AM
I have 4 of the 2 man saws, all hanging in the shed...I have too many bad memories of using them to cut firewood. Always got paired with younger brother, who would not only push, but also push downward. Oh and mine ain't painted either, never will be.
Title: Re: Granddaddy's one man saw
Post by: Left Coast Chris on January 14, 2016, 09:26:43 AM
That is a very nice saw and great work on the handle.  I would be hesitant to restore the teeth because they tell the story of its use and adds character which likely ups the value as a historic piece.    Likely that saw helped make a lot of firewood, fences, buildings or who knows what that speeks a lot of history.   Great piece. :)
Title: Re: Granddaddy's one man saw
Post by: yukon cornelius on January 14, 2016, 09:49:43 AM
Chris, I think you are right. I believe we will touch up sharpen to knock off rust.since both saws from my grandaddy have the same type pattern I want them to stay the same. There might just be a reason for it. If someone were to paint this saw I would haunt them hahaha!
Title: Re: Granddaddy's one man saw
Post by: DaveinNH on January 14, 2016, 01:00:16 PM
I have a modern version of that saw, German made, that I picked up several years ago when I was building a post and beam barn for my wife's studio. In the description they stated "Use the starting teeth to introduce a kerf, then the 3 TPI main teeth..."
Title: Re: Granddaddy's one man saw
Post by: Dodgy Loner on January 18, 2016, 12:14:42 PM
Quote from: beenthere on January 13, 2016, 11:54:08 PM
The trick with a 2-man is for each man to only pull the saw through the cut.
When one or the other tries to push, it doesn't work and a bent saw blade can be the result.

That's one way for beginners to keep from bending a saw, but pushing the saw gently is known as "tailing" and is critical for the most efficient work. Tailing is only efficient with a well-sharpened saw, otherwise, there's too much resistance when pushing and kinking is more likely. The vast majority of two-man crosscuts are not well-sharpened, which leads to unfair opinions about the tool.
Title: Re: Granddaddy's one man saw
Post by: yukon cornelius on January 18, 2016, 09:33:54 PM
That is good info dodgy! I posted our 2 man saw cut tree but I posted it in general board by accident. It is under "just for fun" we did pretty good with it but could use practice. I will probably keep my chainsaws
Title: Re: Granddaddy's one man saw
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on January 18, 2016, 10:20:40 PM
Quote from: yukon cornelius on January 18, 2016, 09:33:54 PM
I will probably keep my chainsaws

I'll give ya $300 for the young man and the 2 man saw.  ;D
Title: Re: Granddaddy's one man saw
Post by: yukon cornelius on January 18, 2016, 10:39:06 PM
How bout $150 and I keep the saw  ;D
Title: Re: Granddaddy's one man saw
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on January 18, 2016, 10:44:33 PM
Quote from: yukon cornelius on January 18, 2016, 10:39:06 PM
How bout $150 and I keep the saw  ;D

:D :D :D
Title: Re: Granddaddy's one man saw
Post by: Bark Beetle on January 18, 2016, 10:57:15 PM
I gotta drive my price up so $175 and I get both saws.
Title: Re: Granddaddy's one man saw
Post by: yukon cornelius on January 18, 2016, 11:01:40 PM
I rescend my counter offer poston. OK I will take your $300 heck I'd pay ya 300 to take this knucklehead  :D
Title: Re: Granddaddy's one man saw
Post by: Magicman on January 18, 2016, 11:04:21 PM
Both of you were outbbid outsmarted by bark beetle.
Title: Re: Granddaddy's one man saw
Post by: yukon cornelius on January 18, 2016, 11:10:01 PM
I guess I will keep him.  :snowball: