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General Forestry => Sawmills and Milling => Topic started by: Percy on January 23, 2016, 07:59:53 PM

Title: Brilliant idea for slab firewood making
Post by: Percy on January 23, 2016, 07:59:53 PM
I think IM gonna try building a contraption similar to this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hSoeCgSDMk
Title: Re: Brilliant idea for slab firewood making
Post by: Dave Shepard on January 23, 2016, 08:25:22 PM
That looks neat. It needs an elevated platform to stand on to feed it.
Title: Re: Brilliant idea for slab firewood making
Post by: beenthere on January 23, 2016, 09:01:37 PM
Agree with Dave. Awkward to lift edgings and slabs into that trough.. must be a better way.
Title: Re: Brilliant idea for slab firewood making
Post by: Percy on January 23, 2016, 09:02:56 PM
Quote from: Dave Shepard on January 23, 2016, 08:25:22 PM
That looks neat. It needs an elevated platform to stand on to feed it.
Or use the dragback to send the slab there for hands free processing.... 8)
Title: Re: Brilliant idea for slab firewood making
Post by: Dave Shepard on January 23, 2016, 09:10:29 PM
Even better! I'm looking for a shaving mill designed to take slabs like a chipper. (As opposed to a box that moves back and forth). I'd probably have to debark, however.
Title: Re: Brilliant idea for slab firewood making
Post by: WV Sawmiller on January 23, 2016, 09:12:51 PM
Quote from: Dave Shepard on January 23, 2016, 08:25:22 PM
That looks neat. It needs an elevated platform to stand on to feed it.

X2 (or is it 3). Neat machine but don't like the loading process shown. I did not see where the shorts went. Are they falling out somewhere?
Title: Re: Brilliant idea for slab firewood making
Post by: Percy on January 23, 2016, 09:25:20 PM
Quote from: Dave Shepard on January 23, 2016, 09:10:29 PM
Even better! I'm looking for a shaving mill designed to take slabs like a chipper. (As opposed to a box that moves back and forth). I'd probably have to debark, however.
What do you do with the shavings?? We have waaaay too many slabs getting burnt. Cant givem away. Folks said they may buy slab firewood if it was already bucked. My mill is elevated enough that I could feed this off the end of my rollcase automatically and maybe the lazy folks would buy it....
Title: Re: Brilliant idea for slab firewood making
Post by: thecfarm on January 24, 2016, 08:06:05 AM
I like the design,no belt to feed the saw,but does need a higher platform to feed it. I wonder if they was just trying it out or maybe someone that goes from sawmill to sawmill to get free slabwood.  :D
Title: Re: Brilliant idea for slab firewood making
Post by: Dave Shepard on January 24, 2016, 08:45:42 AM
Percy, I would use them for animal bedding. It's up to $5 a bag now, and no local source for bulk sawdust or shavings.
Title: Re: Brilliant idea for slab firewood making
Post by: Hilltop366 on January 24, 2016, 08:58:53 AM
Slick rig, no hydraulics so should be relativity inexpensive to build, having to load the slabs up high would be a pain but does offer a safety factor as it would be difficult for someone to fall in the chute.
Title: Re: Brilliant idea for slab firewood making
Post by: Percy on January 24, 2016, 12:13:22 PM
Quote from: Hilltop366 on January 24, 2016, 08:58:53 AM
Slick rig, no hydraulics so should be relativity inexpensive to build, having to load the slabs up high would be a pain but does offer a safety factor as it would be difficult for someone to fall in the chute.
My mill is high enough that I can do it easy....but I wonder if I spend all that time and money and cant get rid of it. This vid shows what Im talkin about. its at the end where the slab rolls downhill. Id replace that thing with this contraption and a piling conveyor....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYbp_O1cnsg
Title: Re: Brilliant idea for slab firewood making
Post by: DGK on January 25, 2016, 03:07:36 AM
Hi Percy,

I bundle my slabs into 8' lengths of approximately 1/2 cord each. The cutting, loading and strapping of the slabs is done by my off-bearer while I am opening up the log. I incorporated this method into my workflow as I noticed that the off-bearer had time on his hands during this part of the milling process. It is not costing me any more to process the slabs other than the strapping material. Once in a bundle, I have found it easier to handle and sell the bundles than just loose in a large slab pile. The additional benefit is that it keeps the yard neat.
Title: Re: Brilliant idea for slab firewood making
Post by: Ron Wenrich on January 25, 2016, 11:56:21 AM
Quote from: Dave Shepard on January 24, 2016, 08:45:42 AM
Percy, I would use them for animal bedding. It's up to $5 a bag now, and no local source for bulk sawdust or shavings.

You might want to look a little harder at the bagging idea.  You have to have dry shavings, or they'll turn moldy.  It's not hard to dry shavings, but its still another process.  Also, baggers are expensive as they compact the shavings in the bag.  You have to turn some volume in order to pay for the equipment.  That means you would either have to buy in shavings or buy in wood to keep it running.  We sold bulk volume of sawdust by the trailerload.  We had a walking floor trailer to unload.  Check out how much one of those cost. 

I'm not saying its a bad idea, just that it gets fairly involved with more labor added. 
Title: Re: Brilliant idea for slab firewood making
Post by: Grizzly on January 25, 2016, 12:35:39 PM
Or just use live rolls to keep feed pressure similar to gravity? Percy I'd really like to know more about your build as I've been looking for this kind of solution for a while. I use all my slabs in the boiler but need the breakdown so I can feed it.

Lyle
Title: Re: Brilliant idea for slab firewood making
Post by: Dave Shepard on January 25, 2016, 12:47:17 PM
Quote from: Ron Wenrich on January 25, 2016, 11:56:21 AM
Quote from: Dave Shepard on January 24, 2016, 08:45:42 AM
Percy, I would use them for animal bedding. It's up to $5 a bag now, and no local source for bulk sawdust or shavings.

You might want to look a little harder at the bagging idea.  You have to have dry shavings, or they'll turn moldy.  It's not hard to dry shavings, but its still another process.  Also, baggers are expensive as they compact the shavings in the bag.  You have to turn some volume in order to pay for the equipment.  That means you would either have to buy in shavings or buy in wood to keep it running.  We sold bulk volume of sawdust by the trailerload.  We had a walking floor trailer to unload.  Check out how much one of those cost. 

I'm not saying its a bad idea, just that it gets fairly involved with more labor added.

I'm not going to bag any. My sister is buying by the bag, as that is the only source for bedding. It will be used in bulk.
Title: Re: Brilliant idea for slab firewood making
Post by: Percy on January 25, 2016, 08:54:16 PM
Quote from: Grizzly on January 25, 2016, 12:35:39 PM
Or just use live rolls to keep feed pressure similar to gravity? Percy I'd really like to know more about your build as I've been looking for this kind of solution for a while. I use all my slabs in the boiler but need the breakdown so I can feed it.

Lyle
Heya Lyle.
Check this slab cutter out. Its more complex than the one  above but is able to do it easily at ground level.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXOpNU0-pzI
Title: Re: Brilliant idea for slab firewood making
Post by: kensfarm on January 26, 2016, 12:54:31 AM
Quote from: Grizzly on January 25, 2016, 12:35:39 PM
I use all my slabs in the boiler but need the breakdown so I can feed it.

If you chipped your slabs..  could set up an auger that feeds your boiler like a pellot stove.. but use a bigger auger from farming.
Title: Re: Brilliant idea for slab firewood making
Post by: Grizzly on January 26, 2016, 08:39:22 AM
Percy - that would be perfect! Now all I gotta do is save up the money, but an edger comes first.

(I think I'm confused...........my sawmill is still for sale elsewhere in the forum!!)  :D :D

Kensfarm - but how do you feed the chips in? With the coal stoker it bottom feeds and I've been warned that it will back burn into the bin. Top feed somehow? I've been thinking about that but couldn't find a method.
Title: Re: Brilliant idea for slab firewood making
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on January 26, 2016, 04:56:27 PM
Just the noise hurt my long ears.  :-\