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General Forestry => Timber Framing/Log construction => Topic started by: Jeff on March 18, 2016, 09:03:37 PM

Title: Small timber frame pavilion
Post by: Jeff on March 18, 2016, 09:03:37 PM
I have my building set that I am going to build. What I need to do now is figure out the pavilion part I want to have for some shelter for the pig roast. The building will have large doors on the corners that can be opened so there is inside area there as well. The polebarn will have ten foot side walls.

The pavilion I want to be Timberframe. Either square or log. Just do it fits the Forestry Forum in looks. What I am wondering is, is it possible to build a 24' by 12'  frame, that has a 24' span. I have attached a rendering doen in photoshop to show why I want 24'.  I'd rather it be free standing from the building.  It can go right up next to it, but don't want to deal with conjoining the roofs.

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/west.jpg)

Title: Re: Small timber frame pavilion
Post by: CJennings on March 18, 2016, 09:14:37 PM
I've crossed a timber framed covered bridge with a span of over 200 feet between piers so I'm sure with the right design for a truss and the right sized timbers 24 feet for a pavilion could be done Jeff. I'll leave the design work to an engineer though.  :)
Title: Re: Small timber frame pavilion
Post by: Jeff on March 19, 2016, 08:54:48 AM
Furby came up with a pretty obvious solution to the span.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/4post-west.jpg)

Title: Re: Small timber frame pavilion
Post by: Jim_Rogers on March 19, 2016, 08:59:34 AM
What's the snow load for your area?

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: Small timber frame pavilion
Post by: Jeff on March 19, 2016, 09:08:09 AM
Most of the county, including our township is 40. The others are at 50. The new building will have a 4/12 pitch and a steel roof. The steel will certainly help with shedding snow.
Title: Re: Small timber frame pavilion
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 19, 2016, 12:46:46 PM
I went 24' with a 8x10, R Oak beam and it's on the eve side.   That end would be easy I think, Maybe.
Title: Re: Small timber frame pavilion
Post by: Ljohnsaw on March 19, 2016, 12:57:56 PM
Quote from: Jeff on March 19, 2016, 09:08:09 AM
Most of the county, including our township is 40. The others are at 50. The new building will have a 4/12 pitch and a steel roof. The steel will certainly help with shedding snow.

With a 4/12 pitch, there won't be a lot of snow shedding.  I've seen 12/12 hold on to a lot of snow before it lets go.  Adding the posts will help.  We'll see what Jim comes up with for you. ;)
Title: Re: Small timber frame pavilion
Post by: Jeff on March 19, 2016, 02:21:00 PM
The neighbors behind me have a 3/12 pitch dark colored steel roof, and it doesn't take much sun in the winter to get the snow moving.
Title: Re: Small timber frame pavilion
Post by: Gearbox on March 19, 2016, 04:25:33 PM
Jeff your right on . almost every building I have seen go down had a white roof .
Title: Re: Small timber frame pavilion
Post by: Jim_Rogers on March 19, 2016, 10:59:28 PM
Are you going to need drawings in order to get building permit?

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: Small timber frame pavilion
Post by: Jeff on March 19, 2016, 11:01:27 PM
I dunno. I'd imagine. This is phase two of the building project.  :)