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Title: Belt sanders
Post by: ely on June 23, 2016, 06:58:26 PM
I am having issues with the glue that holds the joint on my sanding belts...it does not want to hold...am I missing something or is it just bad glue.
Title: Re: Belt sanders
Post by: isawlogs on June 23, 2016, 08:52:47 PM
 What kind of belts are you using?  I have mayne had two fall apart and of those one was caused by a peice of metal.  :-\
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Post by: tule peak timber on June 23, 2016, 09:05:22 PM
On sanding belts , wide or small , look for the "purple ones" put out by 3M. They call their technology "Cubitron "and it has a number of nice features. Made in the USA, ignore the price- it will make you money.  Rob
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Post by: ScottAR on June 23, 2016, 10:16:04 PM
+1 on Cubitron. 
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Post by: Bark Beetle on June 24, 2016, 12:49:40 AM
X3 on the 3m belts
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Post by: Solomon on June 24, 2016, 06:27:09 AM
I order my 6x48  and  my 6x80  belts from Grizzly.   Never had a problem and they are priced right too.
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Post by: Kbeitz on June 25, 2016, 08:15:25 AM
I wish I could find a repair glue. I got a ton of old belts that came apart
before I ever got to use them. Has anyone one found anything that works?
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Post by: HP on June 25, 2016, 03:00:47 PM
Kbeitz

Try using strapping tape on the back..  Worked for me.

Harry
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Post by: JB Griffin on June 25, 2016, 03:26:50 PM
Those belts are too old, the glue has a shelf life of around a year or so. I have exploded more 2x72 belts than I care to remember. That's a big 10-4 on the 3m Cubitron ceramic grit, spendy(around $10 a pop) but last real good on hardened steel and that's death on AO belts. Last week I bought 10 AO belts and bursted all of em in an hour.
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Post by: muggs on June 25, 2016, 05:06:28 PM
I think Griffin is on to something, How old are the belts ?    Muggs
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Post by: Bark Beetle on June 26, 2016, 12:33:53 AM
The belts from Grizzly are really good too.
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Post by: 21incher on June 26, 2016, 08:05:37 AM
I have had some come apart from dampness in my basement shop when they were sealed in a drawer with no air circulation. I get most of mine from 3M & Supergrit and have never had a problem with them. :)
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Post by: JB Griffin on June 26, 2016, 02:52:32 PM
Its real humid here in Arkansas, and my belts curl up like curly fries. Also AO belts don't tolerate water very good. Zirc. and ceramic do much better.
BTW, Bark Bettle if you try 3m belts you'll never buy belts from Grizzly again (unless you're desperate) there is simply no comparison.
Title: Re: Belt sanders
Post by: Larry on June 26, 2016, 03:32:36 PM
It takes a lot of stickem power for a two inch belt to hold together on a belt grinder.  I have one with 2 hp and another with 5.  3M belts are best that I have found and I think I've tried about all of them.  I order just enough to last 6 months to make sure I always have fresh belts.  With Enco free shipping days that was easy, but they are changing.

For the ceramic belts I have to shop elsewhere.

Title: Re: Belt sanders
Post by: ScottAR on June 27, 2016, 12:46:47 AM
Age breaks the glue down.  I only buy a couple belts at a time as I may go months without using my belt sander. 
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Post by: Bruno of NH on June 27, 2016, 08:23:56 AM
I use the 3m belts
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Post by: Just Me on June 27, 2016, 02:52:31 PM
Klingspor had a nice sale about ten years ago if you bought so many boxes of ten. I bought way more than I need and still have a rack full. Its been about ten years and no failures so far. They sand well, don't load easily and have a tapered seam like the 3M belts do.

I still like 3m belts, but I have not run out of Klingspors yet. Use the purple ones on my 4x24.
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Post by: ely on June 27, 2016, 08:28:08 PM
I've had problems with new and old belts from various brands mentioned here...I am talking about my 3x21 Porter cable. I will purchase more and try again.
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Post by: Solomon on July 01, 2016, 10:10:22 AM
Quote from: Kbeitz on June 25, 2016, 08:15:25 AM
I wish I could find a repair glue. I got a ton of old belts that came apart
before I ever got to use them. Has anyone one found anything that works?
You might try that Gorilla Glue,  it's a polyeurethane water proof glue so humid conditions should not cause it  to seperate.   
Or so logic would dictate.   But then again,  the bumble bee by design can't fly but it does.   Give it a shot and see what happens.
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Post by: hackberry jake on July 02, 2016, 11:06:41 AM
I use the 3m belts as well. When I don't have time to order them, I use Diablo belts from the orange box store. Never had any of them come apart.