It's amazing I'm still alive...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm4uwwI2DRA
Well i am not sure if this is meant to be a joke or what but all i can say is wow .I think the first place to start would be some ppe.and after that i am going to leave it alone .😮
I could see Darwin in the back sneaking around!
Whats with the turkey carving technique?
I'm speechless. smiley_furious3 smiley_furious3
i was wantin him to get up on a stepladder and continue his cuts all th eway up the tree and when hes done pull out the bottom piece and the whole tree comes to the ground as cut up firewood chunks :D. but seriously the guy seems like a real professional though ;D
I am trying to understand the buck saw technique with a chainsaw. Does that help it cut faster? Maybe if the chain is dull it helps the saw to cut by sawing back and forth that way. I have seen some folks do that but not to the extent this guys does.
Im speechless...I need to be in waaaay better mood to even give a serious comment
:D :D I like the manual sawing effort ;D :D
In the future pay someone to cut down them saplings ;)
There is a lot going on in that video . Basicly dumb luck he is not Dead .
After watching the entire video... All i can say is thank you for keeping my insurance premium at such a high rate.
Stumps don't lie. Any experienced sawyer can look at those cuts and determine the operators level of experience.
"All too human." That is the nice way to say it.
I wanna change the pace on this for a minute. Anybody had to deal with this scenario very often? You have a 5.5 with total limb locked top in bushy field tree growing beside a fence and you want the 5.5 down. How would you do this?
Number one, it's not going to be straight forward felling, the 5.5 is going to want to sit straight down with about any face you put in it. GOL isn't going to work, conventional isn't going to work...what will?
So I have been thinking, having cut a lot of fence row work and knowing what a bind you can get in to, I figured out a way to get the tree cut. Now it is nowhere near conventional but it works. "IF" everything is as it seems and the top is definitely limb locked...I would cut the 5.5 like I would a lodged tree, by using a diagonal cut at a very steep angle sawing downward half way then in an upward angle from the bottom. This would allow for the 5.5 to slip off itself rather than set down on your bar. Repeat the cut a few times till the top is unlocked and pull the remainder down by hand. You have to watch you feet and legs though due to you are dealing with a sharpened end that is going to stick in the ground.
Any other suggestions? Lets keep vehicles out of this scenario and discus chainsaw tactics on how you guys would approach this with chainsaw only.
Whoever is the owner of this video, take your saws to the nearest Pawn Shop and save yourself an ER visit. If not...learn how to sharpen your saw, I could have cut that tree faster with a rope saw. Ridiculous use of a chainsaw, not even sure where you learned the under notch....not even gonna give you credit for it being a Humbolt because i figure it was just dumb luck you threw it in there. I wish you had stuck at least 3 saws in that sappling....THAT would have been a good video!
This is why 90% of non-professionals should not own or operate chainsaws. First thing I noticed was how DULL that saw was. No hardhat, ear plugs, chaps/pants?? I got a kick out of the chainsaw technique.... (edited by admin). That guys obviously has no clue what he is doing. I figure most folks reading this are well aware that if you pinch a saw in a tree, take the power head off the bar before doing anything else. Might bend a bar, but better then crunching the saw....
However, I do agree with what CCC4 brings to the table. Can't cut this in a normal fashion as it's wedged in a large hard wood tree. I too would cut it the same as CCC4 has described if I was not on the logging job with equipment at my disposal. However if I was at work, and that tree had to go, I'd just push it over root ball and all with the skidder..... End of story.
Am I the only one who felt anger rising and wanted to slap somebody? If for nothing else, the gene pool has been diluted somewhat.
First welcome to the FF, I see this is post 1,
We would like to have you around for post 2.............
Best
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CCC4, I've used the technique you describe multiple times. If we're cutting a narrow trail to pull big mainline pipe or just to get an ATV up, usually cut smaller stuff but sometimes one bigger tree has to go that just won't fall without hanging up. Having no equipment to pull it down with, this is the way we do it.
It works fine, you just have to be aware of what the tree is going to do so you don't crush your feet\pinch your saw.
It's a good idea to cut any limbs off you can reach so when the next piece comes down, you don't get smacked by them.
I find it curious, the video maker said "very dangerous" "do not try" etc. multiple times. If you know what you are doing is wrong, why do it anyways? And make a video to boot!
You should not be using a chainsaw! :-[ :-[
Quote from: Ox on August 27, 2016, 07:23:43 AM
Am I the only one who felt anger rising and wanted to slap somebody?
No...and all of the imaginary self inflicted "DANGER" warnings and self belittlement in the commentary just made me shake my head. The "Widow Maker" one raised my blood pressure a bit, I was just like "really"...this guy would have a heart attack just toting my pack jugs if he was shook up that bad during that video. Like he was trying to inform the public with the dangers of logging or something...I gotta stop, this is just non productive what I am doing here
A little investigation and I feel this is someone trying to pull something. He joined just yesterday. He also joined AS just yesterday. Look at the video. I think it was staged due to the poor acting. Although the fool still could have got hurt. Although his I.P. address here is unique, but that doesn't mean much. In his registration he says he is from Texas. That does check out via the I.P. address.
When he initially gets the first saw stuck, the novice's first reaction would be to try and wiggle and pull it out. The tree sets back and he instantly proclaims it stuck. Why? Because he was trying to stick it.
Look at his youtube channel, it is simply full of idiotic things he proposes that he has done. What we should be mad at is this fool coming on to our forum for all the wrong reasons.
Let me know who you really are, if you want to actually do something really dangerous.
Jeff, good call. I tried to figure it out before replying, I know very well that stuff like this can happen just to raise hairs. It's like you wanna try and help but some things are just done to get people to make replies while the OP jut sits back and laughs. Im done with this thread...
If I had a quarter for everytime I have seen stumps or trees hung up and wondered how the operater didn't get killed I would have enough to buy Ohio Logger and a few more of you guys a large pumpkin ice cream cone ;D.
Quote from: CCC4 on August 27, 2016, 06:52:20 AM
I wanna change the pace on this for a minute. Anybody had to deal with this scenario very often? You have a 5.5 with total limb locked top in bushy field tree growing beside a fence and you want the 5.5 down. How would you do this?
Number one, it's not going to be straight forward felling, the 5.5 is going to want to sit straight down with about any face you put in it. GOL isn't going to work, conventional isn't going to work...what will?
So I have been thinking, having cut a lot of fence row work and knowing what a bind you can get in to, I figured out a way to get the tree cut. Now it is nowhere near conventional but it works. "IF" everything is as it seems and the top is definitely limb locked...I would cut the 5.5 like I would a lodged tree, by using a diagonal cut at a very steep angle sawing downward half way then in an upward angle from the bottom. This would allow for the 5.5 to slip off itself rather than set down on your bar. Repeat the cut a few times till the top is unlocked and pull the remainder down by hand. You have to watch you feet and legs though due to you are dealing with a sharpened end that is going to stick in the ground.
Any other suggestions? Lets keep vehicles out of this scenario and discus chainsaw tactics on how you guys would approach this with chainsaw only.
Whoever is the owner of this video, take your saws to the nearest Pawn Shop and save yourself an ER visit. If not...learn how to sharpen your saw, I could have cut that tree faster with a rope saw. Ridiculous use of a chainsaw, not even sure where you learned the under notch....not even gonna give you credit for it being a Humbolt because i figure it was just dumb luck you threw it in there. I wish you had stuck at least 3 saws in that sappling....THAT would have been a good video!
Yep Clint that's the only way it's coming out. A salami cut and probably several at that. That video was just ugly. There was never going to be a near death moment in that situation. Maybe near maiming but not death. Now try that with a 3' diameter oak and we might be talking death.
Clint I don't know if you were around then but Gypo John/yukon John from AS was making a bunch of spoof videos years ago. Shortly after all his joking around he caught a real widow maker in the face and nearly lost an eye. Wasn't all fun and games anymore. I remind him of that when he gets too uppity.
Quote from: CCC4 on August 27, 2016, 09:58:22 AM
Im done with this thread...
Me too, ADMIN EDIT this thread.... This is the first day off I've had in a few weeks, I have better things to do, and we have better topics to discuss....
can we delete this thread like someone else deletes there things where it can never be found :) :)
i ain't watching that
Ya, I couldn't even watch the whole video. Just skipped thru it. Too stupid.
I deal almost exclusively with smaller trees. Make a cut push em over. If they don't fall down, I make vertical firewood. Shrug.
Now, I wouldn't be so casual when they get over 5-7" but I chose my victims and method.
He seems like a wimpy troll of some kind. Am I allowed to say that ???
Signed
Girl with a chainsaw :D ( well...more than one ;D )
Haha, owell, land of the free, home of the brave!!! carry on bud!!!
May have been a troll, may have been a guy knowing he did something wrong, but not knowing how to do it right, and the comments were put in after the fact to head off possible attacks? From the post, it seems as though he was claiming that was a video of the poster doing the cutting. If so, do yourself a favor, and take a chainsaw class or get some pointers from someone who knows what they are doing.
CCC4 - the technique you describe is probably how I would have handled it, to it's hard to say for sure without a good walk-around of the tree. Incidentally, that was one of the techniques they showed in a GOL level 4 class where we spent the day intentionally hanging up trees and then figuring out how to get them down.
Old boy was working way too hard to look stupid , and it worked !!!! I call B.S. I doubt there is anyone on this forum that don't know how to get a saw unstuck , don't insult us Mr.......
This is why the medical field is such a good one to be in. My 6yr old would get that tree sprout on the ground faster. I call B.S.x2
Unfortunately, I've run into people who are exactly as "knowledgeable" at tree felling.
Quote from: coxy on August 27, 2016, 03:09:31 PM
can we delete this thread like someone else deletes there things where it can never be found :) :)
i know what you mean and your right
Dude dont post videos of stuff like this. we all have, and do dumb things. keep it to yourself and learn from it. so sell the EDITED BY ADMIN camera and buy some ppe with the money. next time unbolt the saw from the bar, put a rope in the tree and pull it over.
i really hope this was a staged joke.
I he using the saw as a hand saw? I mean the constant movement back and forth, maybe somebody should tell him the saw has an engine attached to it ;D ;D
No hard hat, no chaps, dull saws, no brains, why does he even start the saws? He is sawing with the motion.
did someone say troll??
Really hard to watch this.
It's the old "pinch the saw cut a double notch chainsaw sawing maneuver with a strap semi finish and hail mary ending". Nope never seen that one before.
I see dangerous felling videos fairlly often. They usually have titles like "How to fell a tree."
Some involve ladders and come alongs.
Fritz,
For God's Sake, get some help. Start with a hard hat, and ear plugs and learn to look up and read the lean. Carry wedges and an axe. I have never seen anyone fell a small tree 5 times. This is a dangerous game you are playing. We are all embarassed for you, but want you to get some help.
This guy was a total waste of our time. He was what I said I am sure. He registered, posted his crap, and never came back once after he did it. A total troll that I wish I could have 5 minutes with in real life.
What truly amazes me is what Fritz has (or doesn't have) going on in his life to think that this would be entertainment. This, ladies and gentlemen, is the action of a true loser. To such a high degree that it's too incredible to effectively put nice words to it.
The title of this should have been, how to do everything wrong and look like a moron doing it.
You guys are probably right, and this was a Troll.
However, I do feel bad for him if this was a person who was just making his first post, and intending to be around and swap stories and get suggestions and we're all just hammering on him (and scaring him away). Here's hoping he's not getting the feeling you get when you stumble on to some of those "other" chainsaw/forestry/arborist sites and say or do something that doesn't fly. If you truly are that type of person, my apologies. If you are a Troll - well I guess you can call me gullible - I fell for it just enough to wonder...
If you are some other person new to this site and to using a chainsaw seeing this and thinking "wow! these guys are harsh!" just know that this is not how we treat people who come to this site who are honestly trying to have a good discussion. The moderators & Admins here do a great job of keeping things civil. The Forestry Forum does not tolerate personal attacks, but neither do we suffer Trolls just out to stir things up. From the response to this thread so far, I guess you can see what the conclusion is about the original poster here.
We knew he was a troll by looking at his other videos right at the beginning. Other subjects with the same story line. Doing something foolishly dangerous and recording it, then posting it on youtube. That is why he was treated this way here. You know *DanG well I would not stand for a legitimate person being treated wrongly here, but when you have someone like this come in, hell, I'll do what ever it takes to defame him for trying to use our Forestry Forum for jackass purposes when we go to great lengths to be a source of "better than good" information,
Not criticizing your administration of the forum, Jeff. I suppose if I had looked at his other videos, I'd have come to the same conclusion.
I am not a faller but I know enough to know he was extremely lucky.
Sorry but I wanted to call The Guinness Book of records. How he got that old should be a record.
X2
Wow. Just wow.
What's the story with DanG? Is it not kosher to say *DanG?
And there is the answer, aha. Not to be a bother, but why then is "hell" acceptable? I'm just hardening back to grade school, when neither was appropriate