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Some nice Hackberry should saw them and into what or leave them untill some one want's the lumber from them whiteflag_smiley
Don't know. Can you get a picture of the bark? Reason, just want to see if it is the same I have here in the south. Always was a trash tree around here. Not even good for fire wood. :D
fishfighter up here it's DanG good fire wood I will get a picture of the barck in the morening for ya
Leaved it lay for a yr and spalt.
I let most of my hackberry spalt. It's the only way I make money with it. Those logs are too big to spalt anything but the outer surface and ends. When I work bigger logs for spalting I'll cut it and then dead stack it for several months. This way I can get a more even spalting. You may have to pry the boards apart with a crowbar but it seems to work.
Quote from: Kcwoodbutcher on October 09, 2016, 09:15:02 PM
I let most of my hackberry spalt. It's the only way I make money with it. Those logs are too big to spalt anything but the outer surface and ends. When I work bigger logs for spalting I'll cut it and then dead stack it for several months. This way I can get a more even spalting. You may have to pry the boards apart with a crowbar but it seems to work.
What size range do you leave whole to spalt? I got some to cut and plan on leaving them stacked. When you cut them are you sawing them into boards or just spliting the log and restacking them together
Quote from: goose63 on October 09, 2016, 06:57:31 PM
fishfighter up here it's DanG good fire wood I will get a picture of the barck in the morening for ya
Heck, as firewood, it doesn't have any BTU's and goes up in a flash. Just a waste of time splitting and stacking. :D I have way to many hardwood trees for firewood. ;D
we cut it into rr ties ;D but far as fire wood ours burns so hot it will melt a stove down if you dont mix it with something and pops worse than hickory but it does burn up quick :) i like it in cold weather though you know when its 20-25 degrees ;D
Up here cold is -20 to -25 or worse. Steve
Quote from: ladylake on October 10, 2016, 07:38:03 AM
Up here cold is -20 to -25 or worse. Steve
:o :o :o my coffee would freeze up there :o :D :D :D
Quote from: sandsawmill14 on October 10, 2016, 07:21:47 AM
we cut it into rr ties ;D but far as fire wood ours burns so hot it will melt a stove down if you dont mix it with something and pops worse than hickory but it does burn up quick :) i like it in cold weather though you know when its 20-25 degrees ;D
Heck, we might see about 5-7 days of winter at those temps. :D
Quote from: sandsawmill14 on October 10, 2016, 07:41:41 AM
Quote from: ladylake on October 10, 2016, 07:38:03 AM
Up here cold is -20 to -25 or worse. Steve
:o :o :o my coffee would freeze up there :o :D :D :D
You guys better drink the coffee fast
fishfighter here is a picture of the bark and end grain
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/33477/DSCN0964.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1476108435)
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/33477/DSCN0965.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1476109019)
It has a red tint in it
Doesn't look like the hackberry I'm familiar with.
Quote from: LeeB on October 10, 2016, 01:25:10 PM
Doesn't look like the hackberry I'm familiar with.
x2 i will look and see if we have any on the yard in the morning and if so i get a pic of ours :)
Not the same here. Let me go get a picture.
This is what we call a hackberry.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/38788/IMG_1045.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1476142405)
Leaves
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/38788/IMG_1046.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1476142471)
Around here, most of a hackberry log will be white or a bit yellowish with a small, darker center. The bark is warty in both hackberry and sugarberry.
Tom that sounds like what im used to seeing the bark is smooth as beech with warts all over :) some logs are just about covered with warts and just small patches of smooth bark while others are almost completely smooth with just a few warts around the butt end of the log :) the inside looks as you described :)
Yep, that is what we call hackberry as in the pictures I posted.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/33477/DSCN0964.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1476108435)
Now I'm not sure if this is Hackberry.
But this is
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This one has been down for a year
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Still standing
and the leave's
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(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/33477/DSCN0968_28129.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1476202974)
What ever the wood is it's sold I think showed pictures to a wood worker and he love's it
Quote from: ozarkgem on October 10, 2016, 06:00:43 AM
Quote from: Kcwoodbutcher on October 09, 2016, 09:15:02 PM
I let most of my hackberry spalt. It's the only way I make money with it. Those logs are too big to spalt anything but the outer surface and ends. When I work bigger logs for spalting I'll cut it and then dead stack it for several months. This way I can get a more even spalting. You may have to pry the boards apart with a crowbar but it seems to work.
What size range do you leave whole to spalt? I got some to cut and plan on leaving them stacked. When you cut them are you sawing them into boards or just spliting the log and restacking them together
I just slab them at 9/4 then dead stack them I can edge them or resaw them later as needed.
Hackberry has an irregular heart, but the sapwood is very white. I quarter saw a lot of it and use it for drawer boxes. If you want the white to remain white, you need to saw it and get it drying fairly quick, otherwise it will grey stain. once that happens, its only good for building things that get painted. The standing tree in your pictures is definitely hackberry. The one on the trailer is something else.
Fishfighter...that doesn't look like the hackberry we have here.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/33477/DSCN0950.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1475097060)
This is 1 of the 3 log's that were on the trailer not sure what it is but the wood worker wants it
Quote from: 5quarter on October 11, 2016, 11:36:22 PM
Hackberry has an irregular heart, but the sapwood is very white. I quarter saw a lot of it and use it for drawer boxes. If you want the white to remain white, you need to saw it and get it drying fairly quick, otherwise it will grey stain. once that happens, its only good for building things that get painted. The standing tree in your pictures is definitely hackberry. The one on the trailer is something else.
Fishfighter...that doesn't look like the hackberry we have here.
Some trees have a lot more warts on them then others. The one in the picture had very few warts. Most of the hackberry trees here grow on fence lines or at the edge of woods.
the pic fish posted is southern hackberry without question :) but i dont know how many kinds of hackberry there is ??? could be like red oak and be 50 different kinds :D :D :D
Quote from: sandsawmill14 on October 12, 2016, 07:54:41 AM
the pic fish posted is southern hackberry without question :)
I figured it was something like that...thanks.
Goose,
I believe that what you have is elm. Hackberry is in the elm family, and the wood is very similar with the squiggly wavy bands of latewood pores. Would be hard to tell apart by the wood, color helps.
Fishfighter,
I believe that what you have is sugarberry. However, it takes an expert to definitively distinguish between hackberry and sugarberry. They intergrade, so it really does not matter a lot. As to the minute differences, sugarberry leaves tend to be more entire, that is, less toothed, while hackberry leaves tend to more toothed. Also, the drupe (fruit with a pit like a cherry or olive) is beakless in sugarberry while hackberry has a pronounced beak.
Fishfighter, I bet that your drupes are beakless, no offense intended :D.
WDH what ever it is Lee is comeing out with $ 400 this weekend he wants it 8) 8)
Ok guys is this Elm or Kackberry
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I am still betting on an elm royal flush :D. Either way, the wood is about the same. Beautiful grain with the wavy bands in the latewood. Spiral grain that makes it very hard to split (or unsplittable). Prone to warp and twist, but still so pretty that you want to risk it.
Wish I had a lot more old friend stopd by when i was cuting that how much he says $ 75 a plank he wants two thy are 8 ft X 14 inch X1 5/8 8) 8) 8)
Goose, you are on a roll.
Looks like the elm we have around NH