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Title: New to me c4
Post by: furltech on December 19, 2016, 06:07:19 PM
Bought myself a new piece of gear today picked up a c4 with a 172 gas engine it seems like a nice little machine dont know much about them, was out looking for a 230 and ran across this and it was in such sweet shape i decided to go another way  8)
Title: Re: New to me c4
Post by: tantoy on December 19, 2016, 08:30:55 PM
I did not know c4 came with gas engine but I am new to the Garrett/treefarmer world. Pictures please!
Title: Re: New to me c4
Post by: millcreek40 on December 19, 2016, 08:40:57 PM
I had one 15-20 years ago. It was a great firewood machine. Always started no Matter how cold it was. Had a gearomatic 9 winch. I did break the winch a few times .  Good luck with it
Title: Re: New to me c4
Post by: furltech on December 20, 2016, 03:51:01 AM
I will work on the pictures and i hope even with the age of the machine there are still some parts around.Does anyone else know if they came with other winches besides the 9 mine has the 9 but i understand parts for them might be getting tough to get .
Title: Re: New to me c4
Post by: Ramicorn on December 20, 2016, 02:06:18 PM
You must have bought it off Wayne did ya?
Title: Re: New to me c4
Post by: furltech on December 21, 2016, 03:41:07 AM
I did we just got it home last night .It is a nice little skidder i think .
Title: Re: New to me c4
Post by: Ramicorn on December 21, 2016, 07:46:36 AM
He's a real good fella and and pretty fussy about keeping things he owns maintained.
Title: Re: New to me c4
Post by: furltech on December 22, 2016, 02:34:48 PM
well she made it through the first day  :D
Title: Re: New to me c4
Post by: furltech on December 23, 2016, 03:23:46 AM
On another note it came with the owners and parts manual if anyone ever needs some pages copied
Title: Re: New to me c4
Post by: bushmechanic on December 23, 2016, 06:32:33 AM
That's good to know furltech because I picked up a old C4 this summer with plans of making a forwarder out of it. I think you'll like the machine but not the engine :D
Title: Re: New to me c4
Post by: 47sawdust on December 23, 2016, 08:05:42 AM
bushmechanic,
What are the problems with that engine?I see they were made in both gas and diesel.If a person were to repower,what would you suggest?I'm looking for a small(C4 or Timberjack205)for personal firewood use.The tired iron may be more than I want to tackle ,though.
Thanks,Mick
Title: Re: New to me c4
Post by: bushmechanic on December 26, 2016, 07:30:23 AM
We never got any good out of those engines, seemed to always have crankshaft problems. My theory is that the basepan's were too shallow and in our rough terrain the engine was starving for oil. The only engine that seemed to stand up here were the 53 series Detroit, they had a deep basepan. Now if I was to repower I would look for a nice Cummins B series 3.9 liter or a John Deere 4045.   
Title: Re: New to me c4
Post by: 47sawdust on December 26, 2016, 08:16:22 AM
bushmechanic,
Thanks for your reply, your knowledge and experience are appreciated.
Title: Re: New to me c4
Post by: bushmechanic on December 29, 2016, 08:08:51 PM
Were still waiting for the pic's furltech 8)
Title: Re: New to me c4
Post by: furltech on December 30, 2016, 01:49:59 AM
Yes right i will get on that ,been busy trying the old girl out and trying to saw enough stuff on the mill in the evenings to fill an order for lobster trap wood.
Title: Re: New to me c4
Post by: JustinW_NZ on December 30, 2016, 06:59:13 AM
If you ever scan the parts/owners manual im keen to get my fingers on it if possible?

and welcome to the C4 club!

Drop a pic in if you can so we can see what you got.

Cheers
Justin

My c4 with ford diesel...
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/29851/20140325_185833_Android.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1395735331)

Title: Re: New to me c4
Post by: furltech on December 31, 2016, 08:57:01 AM
I am trying to talk the wife into scanning the manual some way but am meeting with resistance 8) i will work on it for you though .We run if for three or four days so far, well actually my operator did. i am the chopper, did everything it was supposed to do, so far.I like how easy it starts in the morning .
Title: Re: New to me c4
Post by: terry f on December 31, 2016, 01:45:29 PM
My Garrett 15 has the gas engine, great if you're not in a hurry, but still spins the tires when overloaded.
Title: Re: New to me c4
Post by: KGTC4D on January 01, 2017, 08:24:28 AM
Davco in Farmington Maine has most anything you want for a Gearmatic 9 or Tree Farmer in general
Title: Re: New to me c4
Post by: livemusic on January 01, 2017, 09:12:55 AM
Quote from: furltech on December 31, 2016, 08:57:01 AM
I am trying to talk the wife into scanning the manual some way but am meeting with resistance 8) i will work on it for you though .We run if for three or four days so far, well actually my operator did. i am the chopper, did everything it was supposed to do, so far.I like how easy it starts in the morning .

Do you have a smartphone such as iPhone? Or a tablet such as iPad? There is a scanning app that works great called Tinyscanner. I have tried several scanner apps and this one works the best so far. I can't recall if it cost anything but if so, it wasn't much. They probably make this same app for Android phones.

Also, you might have to cut the spine of the manual so that the individual pages are loose. It wouldn't be as good as leaving it intact as far as using the paper manual, but you could always fasten it somehow and then you would have the .pdf file if you scanned it. Furthermore, this manual may be online anyway if you do a search.
Title: Re: New to me c4
Post by: furltech on January 03, 2017, 02:10:52 PM
I have both the iphone and ipad i will look into that i really dont want to cut the book apart though.
Title: Re: New to me c4
Post by: Farmin logger on January 17, 2017, 09:20:54 PM
I have some parts for the #9 winch and some other C 4 parts
Title: Re: New to me c4
Post by: furltech on January 18, 2017, 04:59:33 AM
I would  be interested in your parts farmin where are you located
Title: Re: New to me c4
Post by: furltech on January 24, 2017, 11:03:37 AM
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Title: Re: New to me c4
Post by: bushmechanic on January 24, 2017, 06:21:47 PM
I saw that on kijiji and thought that was in some shape for the year of it. Should be a good machine.
Title: Re: New to me c4
Post by: mad murdock on January 24, 2017, 07:21:45 PM
Very nice skidder!  My Garrett 15A has the 172 diesel version of that engine. I have the engine manual if you ever need any info on that. The 172 manual covers both the gas and diesel. I wish I had the 9 winchdrum.  I have the 8A.  Great machines! 8)
Title: Re: New to me c4
Post by: Farmin logger on January 24, 2017, 07:26:27 PM
Furltech, sorry for the slow response. I am located in The Middle Musquodoboit area.
Title: Re: New to me c4
Post by: furltech on January 25, 2017, 12:58:52 AM
Well i am not that far away at all. Just the other side of scotsburn.
Title: Re: New to me c4
Post by: furltech on January 25, 2017, 05:32:53 AM
ya she is in some shape, so far any damage was caused by me bent one of the roof risers a little and flattened a tire just regular stuff.It is sweet to have a machine fire right up on a cold morning.  8)
Title: Re: New to me c4
Post by: chester_tree _farmah on January 26, 2017, 11:36:30 PM
Nice. What type of fairlied is that?
Title: Re: New to me c4
Post by: bushmechanic on January 27, 2017, 05:30:32 PM
Looks like to me that that machine has her own fairlead but it has been setup for piggybacking wood.
Title: Re: New to me c4
Post by: gump on January 27, 2017, 05:57:12 PM
good eye bush! don't see that harvesting method used much anymore! lol.
Title: Re: New to me c4
Post by: furltech on January 27, 2017, 06:48:13 PM
yup she was geared up to piggy back but we modified it a little
Title: Re: New to me c4
Post by: larry1 on January 30, 2017, 08:59:48 PM
Nice looking old girl ! I operated the same machine in the 60's with that gas Ford engine. It had plenty of power and always started real good !  --have fun !