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Title: Winch for turning logs
Post by: Kenny.jenkins on February 25, 2017, 10:48:09 AM
I'm still in the process of getting my woodmizer lt 15 sit up. I'm wanting to mount a winch on it to pull the logs up onto the mill and to also turn the logs. I really can't figure out where to mount it to be out of the way. If there's anyone who has mounted or knows how to mount one I would really appreciate the help. And pictures would be a help.
Title: Re: Winch for turning logs
Post by: Darrel on February 25, 2017, 11:54:32 AM
I just googled "log turner loader winch" and came up with what you may be looking for. There is even a picture of a winch mounted on a LT15.
Title: Re: Winch for turning logs
Post by: Kenny.jenkins on February 25, 2017, 03:08:28 PM
Thank u. Any certain site?
Title: Re: Winch for turning logs
Post by: Darrel on February 25, 2017, 03:28:21 PM
I would browse through the pictures and click the associated link of the ones that interest me.
Title: Re: Winch for turning logs
Post by: kelLOGg on February 25, 2017, 07:56:05 PM
 If the L15 is a 4-poster as I believe it is then what I have done to my MP32 may help. The boom slides in and out under motor control, pivots, rolls logs onto the mill and turns them. It's slower and cheaper than hydraulics and has served me well for more than a decade.
Bob



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Title: Re: Winch for turning logs
Post by: Kenny.jenkins on February 26, 2017, 07:55:04 AM
the winch will be on the side I walk down when pushing the blade through the log. How would I manage that?
Title: Re: Winch for turning logs
Post by: kelLOGg on February 26, 2017, 08:32:53 AM
Why must it be done that way? On my mill I would have to remove the winch every time I rotated the log. >:(

If your mill is stationary and under a roof, you might consider an overhead winch. I think you could rig it so it could roll logs onto the mill as well as turn logs/cants. It would have to be a stout roof.
Bob
Title: Re: Winch for turning logs
Post by: Kbeitz on February 26, 2017, 08:49:13 AM
If you use a winch like kelLOGg posted it would not matter what side
that the boom was mounted on to the carriage. The only thing that
would matter is at what point you drop the cable from unless your
also loading from that side. This was my old log roller.



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This is what I use today.



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Title: Re: Winch for turning logs
Post by: Ox on February 26, 2017, 12:37:39 PM
I have a winch mounted on a piece of square stock used for parbuckling logs.  Could also be used for rolling logs like pictured above.  It rides with the carriage most of the time.  When it's needed, it sticks into a piece of larger square tubing that accepts it, which is mounted inside the frame rails and reinforced.  It gets used, then removed for the next cut.  It just doesn't stay in one place all the time.  A 60" Logrite cant hook does 99% of my log rolling for me with not too much effort.  I'm half crippled so I feel confident most people can do what I'm doing.  :)
Title: Re: Winch for turning logs
Post by: kelLOGg on February 26, 2017, 01:37:15 PM
Kbeitz's winch should do the job and should be easier to install than one I suggested. It could be made to allow room to pass by on both sides
Title: Re: Winch for turning logs
Post by: WV Sawmiller on February 26, 2017, 02:11:10 PM
Kenny,

   Sounds to me like you need to take a trip to Millville PA and see Kbeitz and buy the old log turner he retired.  :D My map shows only 852 miles. It should be worth that just to see his operation anyway. Good luck.
Title: Re: Winch for turning logs
Post by: Joe Hillmann on February 26, 2017, 03:06:57 PM
Woodmizer makes, or did make, a manual below the deck log turner that was run by a two speed hand winch at the tongue of the mill.  There were several ways to run the cable.  One way to load logs and one way to turn the log/cant.  I don't see it as an option on there site anymore.  It did work but it was slow and tedious to change from one setup to the other.  Maybe someone who has one can post photos of how it works.
Title: Re: Winch for turning logs
Post by: Joe Hillmann on February 26, 2017, 03:08:45 PM
I was able to find their manual log roller.  It is called the "Log Deck Package"

https://woodmizer.com/us/PortableEquipment/OptionsAccessories/LCeid/164824/log-deck-package
Title: Re: Winch for turning logs
Post by: Slingshot on February 26, 2017, 03:16:34 PM

Another way to do it.....



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