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General Forestry => Sawmills and Milling => Topic started by: coyotebait on June 17, 2017, 07:44:23 AM

Title: DIY band saw mill
Post by: coyotebait on June 17, 2017, 07:44:23 AM
I need to decide sheaves or tires . Companies don't use tires .  Is the only reason for tires ,to save money ? Because I find sheaves are not that much different , when they are the 18.75 inch sheaves.on line for 45 bucks apiece. I have found a outlet for everything  else. about $1075.00.  Has anyone had experience with both. I don't see why people use tires.
Title: Re: DIY band saw mill
Post by: Den-Den on June 17, 2017, 12:18:07 PM
I am using tires, no experience with sheaves.  The tires on my mill are 24" OD which in theory should give me better blade life.  I have cut perhaps 10K bd ft and only broke one blade after being sharpened several times.  I may have been lucky getting tires with the right amount of crown when fully inflated but am happy with the tracking and quality of cut (after a learning curve).  I am sure you can build a mill using sheaves for wheels and agree that the cost difference is not significant. 
Title: Re: DIY band saw mill
Post by: TKehl on June 17, 2017, 11:18:30 PM
This is speculation and not in any way based on experience.

I'm betting tire mills are a bit easier to build as a first mill as the blade tension could mostly be adjusted by tire pressure (assuming it was close to start with) allowing for a fully welded head.  Using sheaves would require fabricating a tensioning mechanism as the diameters are fixed.
Title: Re: DIY band saw mill
Post by: Den-Den on June 18, 2017, 08:50:16 AM
Quote from: TKehl on June 17, 2017, 11:18:30 PM
This is speculation and not in any way based on experience.

I'm betting tire mills are a bit easier to build as a first mill as the blade tension could mostly be adjusted by tire pressure (assuming it was close to start with) allowing for a fully welded head.  Using sheaves would require fabricating a tensioning mechanism as the diameters are fixed.

I don't think this would be a good way to build a mill.  Getting the tire pressure right and getting the tension right are both important, the chances of getting both right without a tension adjustment is slim.
Title: Re: DIY band saw mill
Post by: Joe Hillmann on June 19, 2017, 07:57:09 PM
I built mine with tires because I had them already.  If I was buying everything new I would have gone with the 18 inch pulleys you are thinking of.  With tires I am limited to how much tension I can put on the blade before the rubber of the tires starts to deform around the blade.
Title: Re: DIY band saw mill
Post by: bandmiller2 on June 20, 2017, 07:19:27 AM
Yotebait, tires will work but you end up with a "bubba mill" thats is hard to put a guard on and fine adjust. Band wheels are the most critical part of a mill and money spent on them is money well spent. I don't mean to insult my brothers that mill with tire but you know what I mean. It can be done with tires but it can be done better and easier with at least belted "Vee" sheaves. Frank C.
Title: Re: DIY band saw mill
Post by: coyotebait on June 21, 2017, 10:26:24 AM
Thanks for the replies. 
Title: Re: DIY band saw mill
Post by: york on June 21, 2017, 11:45:48 AM
Look at this,this way....If tires was such a great idea,your major mill builders,would use tires-They do not use tires.......