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Title: Log splitter motor question???
Post by: smsnipes on July 28, 2017, 11:52:38 AM
Hello all,

I am new to the forum and have a few questions about a log splitter motor... I have what I guess you could call custom built splitter from the 80's that is in need  of a new motor. It currently has a Tecumseh motor on it with absolutely no markings to indicate size. If I did my math correctly it is a 49 ton splitter. It has a 6 / 2.5 gpm two stage pump and a 5 inch cylinder. With that being said how many HP motor would you think I need? I know the general rule of thumb is a 1/2 hp for every gpm but I don't want this thing  stalling out every time I turn around.. Any help / advice is appreciated . Thanks
Title: Re: Log splitter motor question???
Post by: DeerMeadowFarm on July 28, 2017, 01:16:44 PM
I'm running a 20GPM splitter with a 5" cylinder and I have an 11 HP Honda. Works fine.
Title: Re: Log splitter motor question???
Post by: mjeselskis on July 28, 2017, 08:40:31 PM
That's a pretty small pump. A 5hp engine should run it just fine
Title: Re: Log splitter motor question???
Post by: Al_Smith on July 28, 2017, 09:41:01 PM
FWIW I have a 5" cylinder with a 11 HP electric start Briggs and 16 gal per minute .In answer to the question if you go to Surplus center  hydraulics they have charts which will tell you exactly what you want to know . 5 GPM would be rather slow I would think . I might add even at 16 gal per min. mine is rather slow .Fast enough though for an old coot like me . ;D
Title: Re: Log splitter motor question???
Post by: John Mc on July 28, 2017, 10:05:58 PM
With a 5" cylinder, I'd be going with at least 11GPM pump. A 16 would be better.
Title: Re: Log splitter motor question???
Post by: smsnipes on July 29, 2017, 08:10:33 AM
Thanks for the responses! Yeah it moves a little slow but it splits everything that comes it's way that's for sure. I didn't build it so until recently I didn't even know how many gpm it was. Ill check out that chart.
Title: Re: Log splitter motor question???
Post by: york on July 29, 2017, 09:24:37 AM
Hi,your a little off,on your tonnage rating...If you set your PRV at 3000 psi
Best you can get is 29.2 tons...I would have nothing less than 9hp and flow 16 gpm....Like Honda..
Title: Re: Log splitter motor question???
Post by: smsnipes on July 29, 2017, 11:17:27 AM
IDK what prv is but the pump says 5000psi.
Title: Re: Log splitter motor question???
Post by: smsnipes on July 29, 2017, 11:19:50 AM
Oh the relief valve.. IDK what that's set at atm.
Title: Re: Log splitter motor question???
Post by: John Mc on July 29, 2017, 03:40:52 PM
To calculate tonnage:

(D/2) X (D/2) X Pi X actual PSI/2000  (where D is cylinder diameter and Pi is approx 3.14).

BE aware that almost every log splitter manufacturer GREATLY exaggerates their tonnage ratings. I'm not sure how they get away with it, but they all seem to do it (one notable exception is Timberwolf, who gives honest ratings).

Your pump may be capable of 5000 psi (or maybe it was when new), but what are the rest of the components in the system rated? I've seen splitters running at 3000 or 3200, but have not seen a commercial model operating higher than that.
Title: Re: Log splitter motor question???
Post by: 21incher on July 30, 2017, 08:08:35 AM
That seems like a small pump for a 5 inch cylinder when it kicks into the second stage,  you may want to upgrade the pump and motor to speed it up a bit if the hoses and valve can handle a higher flow.  :)
Title: Re: Log splitter motor question???
Post by: jmur1 on August 28, 2017, 10:42:08 PM
I have been using a 15 hp motor on a 5" cylinder with both 16, and  22 gpm (two stage) pumps.  Seem to work ok.  I have considered to move up to 28 gpm but think I would need an upgraded engine to handle it.  I'll let you know if I make the move.