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General Forestry => Drying and Processing => Topic started by: serg on December 23, 2004, 11:48:10 AM

Title: Russian vacuum solar kiln we shall discuss
Post by: serg on December 23, 2004, 11:48:10 AM
Hello. Friends! :) I congratulate with Christmas! But I want to ask you, where in the countries of the world annual temperature of 28 degrees Ñ? ??? If I shall make vacuum 0.04 residual pressure from an atmosphere that water will begin to boil in 28.64 degrees Ñ. ;) Means it is possible to use direct beams of the sun! In Russia there is no such temperature, but I have made in the south experiment in the summer. In the afternoon the sun, the electroboiler at night was included. Result very good. As idea to embody in Africa. California or in Bolivia?  ??? ???Sergey
Title: Re: Russian vacuum solar kiln we shall discuss
Post by: Fla._Deadheader on December 24, 2004, 06:26:55 AM

  Hi Serg. I am going to Costa Rica in January. The average temp is 78° F. The sun shines a lot there. I might get into drying Teak and Tropical Hardwood.

  When my plans are for sure, I would like to discuss this "Sun" Vacuum Kiln. It would be ideal for us.  

 I have learned very much from your postings here.

                                            Thanks,  Harold                      
Title: Re: Russian vacuum solar kiln we shall discuss
Post by: serg on December 24, 2004, 09:30:52 AM
Hello, friends!  :DToday at you a holiday Christmas! I join to you. I love America since 12 years. The mad, mad, mad world " :o :o :D looked cinema " It. Now I talk with you. I can shall drink present "Whisky" and eat the big American hen with the American friends! :D Fla I shall be glad to work with you and all to whom it is interesting. Sergey
Title: Re: Russian vacuum solar kiln we shall discuss
Post by: DanG on December 24, 2004, 11:38:21 AM
Thank you for the warm Christmas greeting, Serg. :)  And thank you also for sharing your knowledge with us here. Perhaps you can come to America someday, so we could all meet you. :) 8) ;D
Title: Re: Russian vacuum solar kiln we shall discuss
Post by: serg on December 24, 2004, 09:23:32 PM
Thank for invitation DanG! Who will be in Moscow call a meeting! Work only begins! Sergey
Title: Re: Russian vacuum solar kiln we shall discuss
Post by: Ga_Boy on December 25, 2004, 04:12:11 AM
Serg,

Merry Christmas!

Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.  




Mark
Title: Re: Russian vacuum solar kiln we shall discuss
Post by: serg on December 25, 2004, 07:09:29 AM
Hello, friends! I looked on the satellite of TV. The world beautifully meets Christmas, all are joyful and happy. :) :D :-* We shall keep a wood, a nature it is human life, life for a bird, animals. If I shall be useful, you store(keep) a nature a wood, Russia studies to use a wood well. We shall learn others to store(keep) a nature a wood. That Global warming will be not dangerous! Life which Jesus means has given us has passed in the good party(side)!! Happy New Year you!  :) :D 8)Sergey
Title: Re: Russian vacuum solar kiln we shall discuss
Post by: serg on December 28, 2004, 09:40:57 AM
 :)http://kahovka.net/~newworld/thumbs2.htm  Doors. An oak. The south of Ukraine. 50 % of a solar energy vacuum. Happy New Year! :D
Title: Re: Russian vacuum solar kiln we shall discuss
Post by: ohsoloco on December 29, 2004, 11:45:29 AM
Thanks for all of the Christmas cheer, Serg  :)

I really like those doors, especially the "fliya" "vika" "vesna" and "arbat"    That name Arbat reminds me of walking along Arbat in Moscow....this is the oldest street in Moscow isn't it  ???    Thanks for the memories too   :)
Title: Re: Russian vacuum solar kiln we shall discuss
Post by: serg on December 30, 2004, 12:51:24 AM
Hello friends! I am glad for your good memoirs on Russia and Moscow! Happy New Year! :D
Title: Re: Russian vacuum solar kiln we shall discuss
Post by: serg on January 03, 2005, 11:18:36 AM
Hello friends! Happy New Year! I have transferred(translated) a site to English. Interestingly look. www. vacuums.ru Sergey
Title: Re: Russian vacuum solar kiln we shall discuss
Post by: bowlblanksandmore on January 05, 2005, 04:13:46 PM
Serg

How long would it take to dry 2" walnut with your vacuum kiln, and how many cycles would it take?

Thank you,
Craig

Your web site is very good.
Title: Re: Russian vacuum solar kiln we shall discuss
Post by: serg on January 07, 2005, 01:26:04 AM
Hi, Craig! A nut 2 " or 52 mm humidity of 60 % up to residual humidity of 5-6 % land for 12-13 days. Humidity of 35 % up to 5-6 % land of 7-8 days. Drying passes at slow rise in temperature from 45 Ñ up to 62 Ñ With. Vacuum from 0.04 then 0.09. For 4-5 hours vacuum having warmed up vacuum I have cleaned(removed) cyclicities. All is simple and qualitative.
Title: Re: Russian vacuum solar kiln we shall discuss
Post by: Den Socling on January 07, 2005, 02:14:28 PM
Sergey,

At 0.04 bar or even 0.09, there isn't enough air for convection (circulation). Am I wrong?

Den
Title: Re: Russian vacuum solar kiln we shall discuss
Post by: serg on January 07, 2005, 09:02:14 PM
Den, hi! Movement pair is present at 0.092 bar, she(it) is slow. Registers below lift molecules pair in top, pairs turns to drops and is deduced from vacuum drying. Movement pair, by my calculations less than 1 meter per one second! I think that it is classics, an opera of drying of an oak, a nut, an ash, a maple and other woods. Fans will give speed of the drying, two days earlier, quality is three times worse!! I have drawn a conclusion and I offer speed to change for quality of a dry wood. Sergey