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Title: cedar cookies
Post by: xlogger on October 31, 2017, 07:10:49 AM
I had a cedar log that I thought would be nice cutting into cookies yesterday, so I gave it a try. Do you think it will crack? I'm going to try more this week maybe cutting some at an angle. Already got interest in them.

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Title: Re: cedar cookies
Post by: WDH on October 31, 2017, 08:10:53 AM
There is good money there.  I am going to be cutting some cedar ones, too, in the next day or two.  I plan to rip some strips of 1/2" plywood and use them as stickers so that I can stack the cookies in layers that will help to slow the drying and hopefully minimize cracking.
Title: Re: cedar cookies
Post by: TKehl on October 31, 2017, 08:37:34 AM
Based on the cedar clocks my great uncle used to build, some will crack and others won't.  Cracks won't be as bad as on other species though.

I went through some of the cookies I cut from standing dead Oak hoping for some luck.  They are interesting because they mostly only cracked in the heart, not through to the sapwood.  Some have a lot of "character".   ::)

Cedar ovals should have a high success rate.
Title: Re: cedar cookies
Post by: caveman on October 31, 2017, 08:03:12 PM
The more undulations you have the less they will crack.  The cedar cookies I've sawn have been pretty stable.  A woman who lives in Michigan during the summer and here during the cooler months bought one or two 20"-24" cedar cookies from us last winter.  A few weeks ago she contacted me to ensure that we would have more.  They behaved well for her and she intends to purchase more.  I think she backs them with plywood to make tables out of.
Title: Re: cedar cookies
Post by: btulloh on October 31, 2017, 09:14:46 PM
What do cedar cookies like that sell for?  Just wondering.
Title: Re: cedar cookies
Post by: plantman on October 31, 2017, 09:35:16 PM
I've read that soaking the wood with anti-freeze prevents cracking. I've never tried it myself and I don't know if it would discolor the wood but it might be worth a try. Antifreeze comes in orange and yellow color too, I believe.
Title: Re: cedar cookies
Post by: WLC on October 31, 2017, 09:43:49 PM
Never tried antifreeze, but have soaked lathe turned bowls in denatured alcohol. Helped speed the drying process so I could finish turn the green wood bowls quicker and they didn't crack as much as just the typical air dried bowls do.  I would think a long and slow drying process would be best with these cookies. 

They are sure nice looking!!!!
Title: Re: cedar cookies
Post by: GeneWengert-WoodDoc on October 31, 2017, 11:24:20 PM
There have been a few articles written about antifreeze, but it is much better to use polyethylene glycol 300, called PEG-300.  It is not poisonous and has low flammability and does work well with urethane finishes.  If one reads the cautions for antifreeze, you might see why it is reasonable to avoid antifreeze.

If you sell wood with a chemical in the wood, you are required to also provide a CIS, consumer information sheet, that details the chemical in case it might hurt a consumer.  Some people are allergic.  Babies can put the wood in their mouth.  Etc.

Many of the chemicals in cedar that give it its good red color are water and alcohol soluble.  So, be prepared for color and aroma loss.
Title: Re: cedar cookies
Post by: xlogger on November 01, 2017, 05:41:03 AM
I'm cutting more different slabs now, looking for that special person that likes them. Yesterday I cut this oval slabs out of cedar. I've got a 18' sycamore that I'm thinking about cutting oval slabs out of half of it, leaving the larger half maybe to qs. Been looking at YH reverse roll, but but not sure about all the edging . Might need to visit someone that done this first :). Cutting ovals on my slabber is easier than on bandmill but slower. I cut about half of the log then move it to my bandmill, by then the toe boards with a little extension on them holds the rest in place till it gets smaller and then I drop the toe board down with only the log clamp holding the rest.

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Title: Re: cedar cookies
Post by: Savannahdan on November 01, 2017, 07:36:30 AM
Those oval slabs look awesome and would be great for camp signs.   
Title: Re: cedar cookies
Post by: WDH on November 01, 2017, 04:27:26 PM
I cut 80 cedar cookies today.  Going to sticker them and see how that works.
Title: Re: cedar cookies
Post by: YellowHammer on November 01, 2017, 08:03:27 PM
Quote from: WDH on November 01, 2017, 04:27:26 PM
I cut 80 cedar cookies today.
That's a lot of cookies.

Title: Re: cedar cookies
Post by: plantman on November 01, 2017, 11:22:29 PM
If you go to www.woodenboat.com and search Dave Carnell you will find articles in which he discusses his research into glycol treated wood. You also might search Bora-care as that is a product used to treat wood to prevent mold and insect damage. Lots of good info on that website.
Title: Re: cedar cookies
Post by: Magicman on November 09, 2017, 05:58:56 PM
Got ERC cookies??


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Happy Lady.   :)
Title: Re: cedar cookies
Post by: TKehl on November 10, 2017, 07:58:53 AM
Lot's of cookies.  Maybe a few cakes!   ;D