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General Forestry => Forestry and Logging => Topic started by: coxy on November 11, 2017, 06:59:08 AM

Title: fan
Post by: coxy on November 11, 2017, 06:59:08 AM
can you turn a fan around and have it still work  say if it was a pusher and you turned it around would it become a puller 
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Post by: Maine logger88 on November 11, 2017, 07:13:59 AM
On my 540 I can
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Post by: ehp on November 11, 2017, 08:05:53 AM
if the blades are curved , if there straight it will just do the same thing , on my 230A I just turn the fan around and it works ok
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Post by: Logger RK on November 11, 2017, 08:35:30 AM
On my 311 Hydro Ax with a 353 Deitroit in can
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Post by: mburrow on November 11, 2017, 09:46:57 AM
Quote from: coxy on November 11, 2017, 06:59:08 AM
can you turn a fan around and have it still work

there are some fans that can be mounted from both sides

Quote from: coxy on November 11, 2017, 06:59:08 AM
say if it was a pusher and you turned it around would it become a puller 

a pusher would still be a pusher, a puller would still be a puller.
to make a pusher to a puller would need to reverse direction of rotation or be able to change angle of blades. 
Title: Re: fan
Post by: snowstorm on November 11, 2017, 11:26:36 AM
Quote from: mburrow on November 11, 2017, 09:46:57 AM
Quote from: coxy on November 11, 2017, 06:59:08 AM
can you turn a fan around and have it still work

there are some fans that can be mounted from both sides

Quote from: coxy on November 11, 2017, 06:59:08 AM
say if it was a pusher and you turned it around would it become a puller 

a pusher would still be a pusher, a puller would still be a puller.
to make a pusher to a puller would need to reverse direction of rotation or be able to change angle of blades.
and you are right
Title: Re: fan
Post by: coxy on November 11, 2017, 11:57:10 AM
so if the motor is right hand rotation and put a left hand rotation fan on it will still be ok I don't care if its a pusher or puller as long as it cools it long enough to load 300k ft of logs  I cant wait till spring and this truck gets melted down and becomes a VW bug 8) 8) I see why Detroit is going  extinct  like the dinosaurs   :D cant find parts and when you do there is 30 different applications that wont interchange >:(   
Title: Re: fan
Post by: mike_belben on November 11, 2017, 01:26:04 PM
Curved blade can be a pusher or puller based on rotation only without changing location.  At skidder speeds youll be fine blowing forward.  If it runs a little hot put a few drops of dawn in the radiator and let it idle to shed some heat now and then.

Obviously the core cant be a 3" brick of adobe.
Title: Re: fan
Post by: coxy on November 11, 2017, 01:31:59 PM
its a 671 in my log truck only need to move the logs a few miles down the road and load trailers this winter after that its a VW bug for its after life  :)  mike we run snuggle laundry detergent in all our derby cars they don't seem to boil over in less the hose gets broke
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Post by: dnash on November 11, 2017, 05:03:12 PM
What's the science behind the fabric softener? Never heard of it before.
Title: Re: fan
Post by: coxy on November 11, 2017, 05:05:39 PM
makes the boil point way high if you can get it that hot    just like the tire beads we run windshield glass glue its almost impossible to brake the bead after putting it on
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Post by: mike_belben on November 11, 2017, 06:09:24 PM
 any sort of soap will reduce the surface tension and let the boundary layer of molecules slide along better, rather than just be stuck in place.  Boundary layer is sort of like a blanket over all the metal surfaces.  Molecules have a bond to each other and must be sheared apart.  Each one transfers heat to the other one.  The center of the conduit has the highest rate of flow. 

Boiling point is a function of system relief pressure.   You will get more heat out of the engine and into the radiator which can look like youre running hotter.

You scrapping the engine or the truck?
Title: Re: fan
Post by: coxy on November 11, 2017, 06:18:43 PM
both
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Post by: mike_belben on November 11, 2017, 06:30:35 PM
I dont think ive ever seen a log truck get scrapped. Certainly not a log loader, ever.   Only one ever came in was from a total loss fire.
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Post by: mike_belben on November 11, 2017, 06:31:48 PM
You might see if arthur trovei in port jervis will do you better than scrap.  He exports stuff like that, nice guy.
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Post by: coxy on November 11, 2017, 06:40:09 PM
I may keep the loader if I can find a decent truck to put it on other wise ill get another truck with a newer loader there has been a lot on cl around for 25-50k  I can swing a truck 25-35k with out a loan but after that I only want to do a year loan ill know more  how the other truck works if not I may have to bite the bullet sooner but would be better later  ;D  most of his trucks don't have a title and the ones he has title for is way to much for what they are he is only 45min from me go there at least 1 a month a few years back he had a nice ford ltl double frame 18ft l with a 3208 in single axle for cheap but no title I need it to be at least road legal for plates don't care about anything else 
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Post by: Maine logger88 on November 11, 2017, 06:48:51 PM
Does it have a governor for running the loader like a high idle kit or a variable speed? If it does and you do end up scrapping it vs selling it I may be interested in buying the governor set up. We have a few of those old drip troits around...
Title: Re: fan
Post by: coxy on November 11, 2017, 07:03:33 PM
nothing it runs at an idle and never had anything it wont pick up the loader is an old 110 so high idle don't make it go any faster its slow no matter what and I would hate to listen to that thing at 12-1500 rmp what did you say  :D the old 9500 gmc had a electric controlled gov on the 8v71 at 1800 rpm  and never seemed to run any faster but it shur made it some jerky
Title: Re: fan
Post by: mike_belben on November 11, 2017, 09:41:46 PM
No no, i was saying sell him the junk truck.. With a log loader id expect you can get better than scrap
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Post by: coxy on November 12, 2017, 05:54:50 AM
why didn't you say that the first time  ;D
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Post by: mike_belben on November 12, 2017, 03:01:18 PM
I did.  Ya musta had the wifes readin glasses on again.. The ones that convert everything to mean the opposite of what ya said! 

(;D