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Title: LT40 Slow moving problems
Post by: PA_Walnut on November 20, 2017, 07:18:01 AM
I have a relatively new LT40 Hydraulic. Lately, the carriage seems to be moving slower/lazy...particularly before warmed up. Also the debarker doesn't want to move back away from the log when asked.

Not sure if related, but what should I be looking at/for? Maybe the battery isn't charged/charging properly?

Thanks for any suggestions. Calling WM support today also.  8)
Title: Re: LT40 Slow moving problems
Post by: Magicman on November 20, 2017, 08:18:08 AM
Simple things first.  The carriage could be as simple as the belt slipping, or a seized cam follower.  Is the sawmill level?  The Debarker is heavy and if the loader side of the sawmill is high, it will cause the Debarker to not want to retract.  Is the swing arm joint greased and loose?
Title: Re: LT40 Slow moving problems
Post by: PA_Walnut on November 20, 2017, 08:27:35 AM
Mill is pretty level. I'll double-check. Just greased and lubed everything, but will double-check.
Haven't checked the drive belt lately. Will do.
Title: Re: LT40 Slow moving problems
Post by: Chuck White on November 20, 2017, 08:34:01 AM
Also check the belt on the debarker!

Sometimes if the mill has been sitting idle for too long, the belts will harden and not want to move freely!
Title: Re: LT40 Slow moving problems
Post by: terrifictimbersllc on November 20, 2017, 09:01:23 AM
Debarker pivot shaft and housing need to be cleaned once in a while.sawdust and grease in there. I alternate a little grease with atf as time goes by. I lift the shaft about an inch and squirt atf in on top. If it's hardened could use wd40 or on blaster or blue creeper.

Feed belt 7 pounds 1/8" deflection.

Title: Re: LT40 Slow moving problems
Post by: Chuck White on November 20, 2017, 12:06:56 PM
In my debarker book, it says 3/8" deflection, with 3 to 5 pounds pressure!

I guess it just depends on what version of debarker you have!
Title: Re: LT40 Slow moving problems
Post by: barbender on November 20, 2017, 12:27:29 PM
Make sure your warhead feed is not restricted in some way, like Magic mentioned, a seized cam follower bearing or something else. Too much of an electrical load can burn up your MOSFET board. You don't want to do that$$$. Also, if temps are hovering right around freezing, belts can get condensation, that turns to frost, on them and that will cause slippage until the belts warm up.
Title: Re: LT40 Slow moving problems
Post by: Ga Mtn Man on November 20, 2017, 05:22:54 PM
Also check the top felt wiper.  It can get packed with sawdust and cause a drag on the head feed.
Title: Re: LT40 Slow moving problems
Post by: MartyParsons on November 20, 2017, 09:12:00 PM
Hello,
  Trying to make sure these issues are related? or not? Feed could be something as simple as the power feed belt loose. If the mill is outside the debarker belt can rust inside the pulley. Does the rod with the spring move when you push the switch? If this is moving then the grease could be hard or the pin rusted. 35 hp Yanmar would be a late model mill.
Hope this helps.
Marty
Title: Re: LT40 Slow moving problems
Post by: YellowHammer on November 20, 2017, 09:17:22 PM
My guess is power feed belt. 
Title: Re: LT40 Slow moving problems
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on November 20, 2017, 09:56:28 PM
I think its just the COLD weather.
Title: Re: LT40 Slow moving problems
Post by: Darrel on November 20, 2017, 10:23:06 PM
My old LT40 has no debarker but when my power feed got sticky it was a simple fix. I just had to clean and adjust the wipers on the top rail; problem solved.
Title: Re: LT40 Slow moving problems
Post by: LeeB on November 21, 2017, 05:51:57 AM
Good point about the felt pads. I finally took mine off.
Title: Re: LT40 Slow moving problems
Post by: Peter Drouin on November 21, 2017, 05:54:53 AM
Quote from: Ga Mtn Man on November 20, 2017, 05:22:54 PM
Also check the top felt wiper.  It can get packed with sawdust and cause a drag on the head feed.


Mine would bunch up, freeze to the top rail. I just rip it out, put the tin top back on and never had trouble after that.  :D
Title: Re: LT40 Slow moving problems
Post by: Magicman on November 21, 2017, 08:47:48 AM
Of course mine does not freeze, but that top felt wiper gets removed, wire brushed, and flooded with ATF before each day's sawing.

I have had to replace that power feed shaft assembly twice, but it does get quite a workout.  Heck, it is also dragging me along.  Note: if the power feed chain is adjusted too tight it will kill those bearings.
Title: Re: LT40 Slow moving problems
Post by: Darrel on November 21, 2017, 09:23:28 AM
I don't do it that often, but I clean and flood with atf weekly and before sawing if the mill has been sitting idle for a while.
Title: Re: LT40 Slow moving problems
Post by: Percy on November 21, 2017, 09:25:25 AM
Im havin "slow moving" problems too this morning.....late for work....too much punkooter with coffee...  ;D
Title: Re: LT40 Slow moving problems
Post by: pineywoods on November 21, 2017, 10:24:50 AM
Quick check..take the belt off the feed motor. Then try manually pushing the head down the rails. If it's hard to push, you have something binding, If the head moves easily, then try rotating the feed motor by hand. If the motor turns easily, you have an electrical problem, if not...I have changed out a couple of feed motors because they bind up when the permanent magnets come loose, they are glued to the inside of the motor case. JB weld will re-attach them. Be carefull handling those magnets, they are made of ceramic and are very brittle. A sharp blow to the case of the motor will likely shatter them.
Title: Re: LT40 Slow moving problems
Post by: Kbeitz on November 21, 2017, 12:00:42 PM
Also mark the magnets so you put them back in the same way...
Title: Re: LT40 Slow moving problems
Post by: PA_Walnut on November 22, 2017, 05:57:23 AM
Not been at the mill much, but checked the wipers/guides and some, but not much dust caked-up in there. Belt tension is good, battery checks out ok.
Gonna remove the belt and push it today to see how it feels.
Thx for all the tips!
Title: Re: LT40 Slow moving problems
Post by: Chuck White on November 22, 2017, 06:10:52 AM
When you get the chance, try Pineywoods (above) suggestion!

Remove the feed drive belt and see if the saw head moves back and forth freely!
Title: Re: LT40 Slow moving problems
Post by: PA_Walnut on November 22, 2017, 06:14:44 AM
Yep. That's what's on my agenda today. Time to change oil in all the machines too...between mill, edger, tractor, truck, generator, pressure washer, it's like a full day and 55 gallon drum!  :o