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Title: 110V router in Liberia electrical question
Post by: terrifictimbersllc on January 16, 2018, 10:40:36 AM
HELP.

We have a need to use a hand held router at the sawmill in Liberia.  One will need to be taken or sent over there.

The electrical supply at the mill is only 220 (or maybe 240), pretty sure it's 60Hz everywhere in Liberia not like Europe.

Last April, we bought a 1000 watt stepdown transformer in town (220 to 120), which is successfully being used to power the 120V BMS250 sharpener which is labelled as 430 watts.

My question:  will the 1000W  transformer be sufficient to run a Porter Cable 690 router which is marked as 110V/8.0 amps (120 x 8 = 960 watts)?  Or is it likely to blow the fuse and send us back into town for a 2000W or 3000W step down transformer.

Second, one can buy speed attenuators to use with a router.  Would one of those reduce the router power demand if they can't get by with the 1000W transformer?


HELP.
Title: Re: 110V router in Liberia electrical question
Post by: Kbeitz on January 16, 2018, 11:44:58 AM
You could also use a Variac .
Title: Re: 110V router in Liberia electrical question
Post by: Kbeitz on January 16, 2018, 11:49:48 AM
Amazon sell a International Voltage Converter 220V to 110V 1600 Watt
for $9.29
Title: Re: 110V router in Liberia electrical question
Post by: Ljohnsaw on January 16, 2018, 12:02:22 PM
Maybe a dumb question but here (in the States), you can take a 240v feed (Line-Neutral-Line) and split it into two 120v circuits.  How is the power delivered in Europe/elsewhere?  Can't you just make your own splitter box that has a couple outlets hanging off of each side/line?  Or is the power delivered as Line/Neutral/Ground?
Title: Re: 110V router in Liberia electrical question
Post by: Kbeitz on January 16, 2018, 01:02:30 PM
Quote from: ljohnsaw on January 16, 2018, 12:02:22 PM
Maybe a dumb question but here (in the States), you can take a 240v feed (Line-Neutral-Line) and split it into two 120v circuits.  How is the power delivered in Europe/elsewhere?  Can't you just make your own splitter box that has a couple outlets hanging off of each side/line?  Or is the power delivered as Line/Neutral/Ground?

If it's like Dominican Republic everything is 3 phase. No neutral. Homes
just have two lines out of the three coming into there home.
Title: Re: 110V router in Liberia electrical question
Post by: Don P on January 16, 2018, 04:18:53 PM
Absolutely confirm the Hertz... and please post back. Dad had the stepdown in Russia but still smoked some stuff on 50 Hz
Title: Re: 110V router in Liberia electrical question
Post by: terrifictimbersllc on January 16, 2018, 07:22:11 PM
I guess I'm asking those of you who know more about electricity than I do,  if a 1000W rated step down transformer that they have (it weighs about 20 pounds) will run an 8 amp router. 

The router will just have to do light cutting.   Or will the start-up draw be much higher than 8A?
Title: Re: 110V router in Liberia electrical question
Post by: qbilder on January 17, 2018, 08:02:04 AM
It'll be very close, but I think you'll be ok. Much will depend on how heavily you use the router and the quality & sharpness of the bit. A high quality and/or sharp bit will require less power than a cheap and/or dull bit. A fresh Freud would be ideal. If the cutter isn't cutting efficiently, it can force the router to draw significantly more juice than it's rated for. Most of the time it only means short router life, but in your case it'll be the difference of using a router or not. I'd also recommend taking successive thinner cuts rather than hogging.         
Title: Re: 110V router in Liberia electrical question
Post by: btulloh on January 17, 2018, 08:31:54 AM
The transformer should handle the startup current OK.  It may not startup quite as rapidly because the current spike could saturate the transformer, but it won't cause a failure.  I think you're good.
Title: Re: 110V router in Liberia electrical question
Post by: terrifictimbersllc on January 17, 2018, 01:44:25 PM
I should mention that the electrical supply at the sawmill area and each other place I spent any time, was by generator.  I am pretty sure that the wiring that came to the plug where we had the transformer set up, was only two conductors.   I didn't go back to the generator to have a look there.  It was huge, taking up most of a small room, and the noise in the whole area was unbearable.
Title: Re: 110V router in Liberia electrical question
Post by: Kbeitz on January 17, 2018, 03:16:14 PM
A transformer is a tough beast. If it's in the open you can tell
if your getting it to hot. It take a lot to burn one up.