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Title: Hottest peppers in the world
Post by: LaneC on April 08, 2018, 12:36:45 PM
   I have recently planted the 11 hottest peppers in the world. If anyone knows what I should do with them when they mature, please let me know :D :D. If anyone has any advice on growing them, feel free to share, I can take criticism no problem, especially if I learn something. I figure I will make a sauce with them and go from there. They can actually be dangerous from my research. You need to wear gloves when cutting them and be super careful about hand placement after handling. Anywho,, just an endeavor hopefully worth pursuing. Any advice/coaching, greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Hottest peppers in the world
Post by: DelawhereJoe on April 08, 2018, 12:47:21 PM
A buddy of mine likes to grow the Carolina reapers peppers, a few winters ago a mouse got to his seeds in a box in his shed and the seeds killed the mouse. He never said how many seeds he had to start or ended up with so I don't know how many the mouse ate before it burned from the inside out.
Title: Re: Hottest peppers in the world
Post by: Ianab on April 08, 2018, 04:10:29 PM
I've been growing Ghost Peppers and Trinidad Scorpions this summer, and they are ripening now. They seem easy to grow, but they need a warm sheltered spot, lots of sun, then just make sure they have water and fertiliser. 

I have been growing mine in large plastic pots sitting against the sunny side of the house. Means if we get a storm over summer I can pick them up and move them to the shed for the day, rather than have them beaten up by the wind. 
(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10460/20180312_161801.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1520830695)

The Carolina Reaper is a cross between those 2 varieties, and is slightly hotter. How the heck you could tell the difference is beyond me. They are all crazy hot. 

I found I could cut them bare handed, but I went and got in the shower straight afterwards. They did make my eyes water and nose run a bit too. DO NOT touch your face, or go to the toilet, before you wash up.  :o :D :D Other people are more sensitive and it will sting their hands. I only rinsed my knife too, and got chilli flavoured avocado on my toast the next day!!!

Just remember you are playing with something stronger than police pepper spray

I've made a variety of strength sauces. From merely hot, which was only 3 chillies in a pot of tomatoes, up to crazy hot, which was about a 1/4 pound of them in a smaller pot.  That one makes Tabasco seem mild  ;D

Also, when you taste them, there is about a 5 second delay before you feel the heat. 

There is a "lethal dose" of the active ingredient, but it's physically impossible to eat enough at once to kill yourself. The convulsions and vomiting will save your life before you get 1/4 way there. 
Title: Re: Hottest peppers in the world
Post by: sawguy21 on April 08, 2018, 08:44:40 PM
 :D :D
I will take your word for it, I am NOT the one to try it. I like spice but once it overpowers the food I lose interest.
Title: Re: Hottest peppers in the world
Post by: JohnW on April 09, 2018, 12:47:05 AM
Right.  Tabasco doesn't even register on the scale with those other peppers.
Title: Re: Hottest peppers in the world
Post by: Ianab on April 09, 2018, 03:55:46 AM
Right.  Tabasco doesn't even register on the scale with those other peppers.
Well it does, but WAY down the scale. 
Tabasco rates ~2,000 Scoville
These chillies are 1,000,000+  :D
Police "pepper spray" comes in at about 700,000.    Amateurs.  ;D
Indian Army use these for their tear gas grenades (non lethal apparently) ... And the locals make Elephant repellent from them. 
Title: Re: Hottest peppers in the world
Post by: Ianab on April 09, 2018, 05:01:08 AM
This innocent looking little fruit is what you end up with...

(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10460/20180409_204538.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1523264371)
Title: Re: Hottest peppers in the world
Post by: Ianab on April 09, 2018, 05:04:48 AM
DO NOT just eat one...

OR, if you do, video yourself so we can all laugh at your reaction.  :D
Title: Re: Hottest peppers in the world
Post by: petefrom bearswamp on April 09, 2018, 07:52:36 AM
Cant wait to see said video
Title: Re: Hottest peppers in the world
Post by: Onthesauk on April 09, 2018, 10:39:50 AM
Someone told me years ago, "Food shouldn't hurt!"
Title: Re: Hottest peppers in the world
Post by: LaneC on April 09, 2018, 05:25:15 PM
  From what I have read, the Capsacin is what produces the heat, and it supposedly tricks your mouth saying it is burning. I have eaten very mild peppers that had a small burn and I don't think it was a trick :) :). I have seen some on you tube eat them and about have to go to the hospital. Those are pretty peppers. Thanks for the replies.
Title: Re: Hottest peppers in the world
Post by: Ianab on April 09, 2018, 06:59:29 PM
Pizza Roulette  :D

Hell Pizza - Pizza Roulette TVC - our most evil game yet - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ahNpFf1_0Q)
Title: Re: Hottest peppers in the world
Post by: Chuck White on April 09, 2018, 08:13:08 PM
  I have recently planted the 11 hottest peppers in the world. If anyone knows what I should do with them when they mature, please let me know :D :D. If anyone has any advice on growing them, feel free to share, I can take criticism no problem, especially if I learn something. I figure I will make a sauce with them and go from there. They can actually be dangerous from my research. You need to wear gloves when cutting them and be super careful about hand placement after handling. Anywho,, just an endeavor hopefully worth pursuing. Any advice/coaching, greatly appreciated.
My suggestion would be to fence them in so the kids can't get to them! 
Title: Re: Hottest peppers in the world
Post by: sawguy21 on April 09, 2018, 09:57:14 PM
A man went to hospital with severe headaches after eating a whole Carolina Reaper the other day. :D I'm not  that desperate for bragging rights. ::)
Title: Re: Hottest peppers in the world
Post by: LaneC on April 10, 2018, 11:14:16 PM
  I read about the guy that went to the hospital. From what I read, he had a condition, and the pepper enhanced it exponentially. I would never try eating one whole like that. Ianb, this may sound dumb, but do you drink that vodka with the peppers in it or use it as a seasoning? It seems like it would bite you twice if you drink it :)
Title: Re: Hottest peppers in the world
Post by: Ianab on April 11, 2018, 02:02:29 AM
A man went to hospital with severe headaches after eating a whole Carolina Reaper the other day. :D I'm not  that desperate for bragging rights. ::)
Yeah, I read that too. Apparently one side effect of eating a LOT of chilli is it can cause blood vessels to contract. This is also what cause "Ice Cream" headaches. Ironic he got an "Ice Cream" headache from eating hot chilli  :D  But a CT scan showed restricted arteries going to his brain, which will cause headaches. So the assumption is that chillies caused it. 
Like I said earlier, I'm not the crazy. 
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do you drink that vodka with the peppers in it or use it as a seasoning? It seems like it would bite you twice if you drink it 
We usually have shots around the table or fire pit. It's a good way to encourage "moderate" drinking  :D No one has yet come back and ask for a Double....  We haven't tested this brew yet, but I suspect it will have some "bite".

Also fun to put the smart youngsters in their place. Toss back a shot, wipe your brow, then watch them run around looking for milk  smiley_devil
Title: Re: Hottest peppers in the world
Post by: Raider Bill on April 11, 2018, 08:30:44 AM
I grew scorpions and ghost peppers a few years ago. I don't eat hot but a friend had some extra seeds so I figured what the heck. Novelty.
One of the HMWHC regulars took some home and cut them up for a dish he was making. After cutting them and having a couple beers he had to pee. Apparently the was fire down below. His wife said he was in the shower a longtime.

Another guy was over for our Friday meeting and cut a dime sized piece off them popped it in his mouth. He got a bit red, eyes teared up then announced "not bad" and can he have some to take home. It wasn't his first rodeo.

I wore rubber gloves anytime I touched them.
Title: Re: Hottest peppers in the world
Post by: LaneC on April 11, 2018, 12:18:36 PM
 I will wear gloves when I cut them or handle them. Yep, that other about down below is very easy to do. Even with jalapenos, and you figure out why real quick. I am starting (eating) on jalapenos and working my way up. They say the peppers are very high in nutrition, and help with pain. I am planting some cayenne peppers also. I watered them yesterday with a little dissolved Epsom salt in the water. Do you use or recommend doing that? It is basically the magnesium the plant needs from what I have read. Also, I am fertilizing with fish emulsion. The stuff stinks bad, but they say it works real good.
Title: Re: Hottest peppers in the world
Post by: Raider Bill on April 11, 2018, 12:29:47 PM
I just put them in pots, watered them every so often and they grew.

Title: Re: Hottest peppers in the world
Post by: Ianab on April 11, 2018, 04:56:14 PM
I find a bit of generic vegetable fertiliser helps to keep them growing, flowering and fruiting. If things are a bit tough they set a crop, and basically call it quits, but with some encouragement you can have them still flowering when you are picking the first crop. Also depends how long your growing season is.  I get better results with seedlings started early inside, and moved out as soon as the weather is warm enough. That way you have 6" plants at the very beginning of the growing season, and they are a month ahead of anything you plant at that point. 
Title: Re: Hottest peppers in the world
Post by: Woodcutter_Mo on April 11, 2018, 09:47:07 PM
 I've grown a few Carolina Reapers and ghost peppers. If starting them from seeds, start them indoors as early as possible, like now might even be too late already depending on your zone. Here I planted them in January in the house and that worked good. I don't know if it was just the batch of seeds but they took a very long time to germinate, however they almost all came up. I've kept a few of the plants for several years. I just kept them in good potting soil with the time release fertilizers and they did well. Water them regularly but don't over water and make sure they are well drained so the roots don't rot. And make sure if there's any chance of frost, cover them up or bring them indoors as they don't hold up to cold at all.

I'm don't have too much of a green thumb, but I honestly didn't get very many peppers from my plants until the second year, the plants were alot more mature and made alot more peppers the second and third years after planting them.

 The ghost peppers I grew were chocolate ghost peppers, they had distinct but good flavor. Tasted great for about 1 second until the heat kicked in lol.
 I'm not sure why, but there were a few peppers that didn't have much heat to them, and we're actually pretty safe to eat by them selves (about like a jalapeno). The hot ones I dried out and made into flakes and would sprinkle a small amount on various foods. I like the flavor of them, but they are about too hot for me.
Title: Re: Hottest peppers in the world
Post by: LaneC on April 12, 2018, 08:03:26 AM
   I germinated them back last month and some are 1" tall. The jalapenos I did at the same time. They say the hotter the pepper, the longer it takes to germinate. I noticed that it is very true. The jalapenos are 2-1/2 times as big as the super hots, and germinated at least a week earlier. Luckily I started just in time. Hopefully not too late anyway, but I will know next year to start at least a month earlier.
Title: Re: Hottest peppers in the world
Post by: Raider Bill on April 12, 2018, 12:23:02 PM
Here are mine.

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Title: Re: Hottest peppers in the world
Post by: LaneC on April 12, 2018, 07:50:12 PM
  Those sure look nice. My eyes are watering now :). I hope I can make some this year. At least I will have seeds from now on, even if see that they are too hot.
Title: Re: Hottest peppers in the world
Post by: Ianab on April 12, 2018, 08:44:28 PM
Even if you find they are hotter than you like, just use them sparingly and they are OK.  Make a sauce or relish with a heap of tomatoes, some onion and capsicum etc, and just add a couple of chillies to spice it up. You can make a LOT of "warm" sauce from a couple of plants if you only use 2 or 3 chillies in pot of sauce. 

I've experimented with other fruit and veges too. Kiwifruit and Feijoa sauces worked well with a dash of chilli in the mix. Those get really cheap (or free) here when they are in season. So it's more a matter of adapting to what you have. If you can make chutney from it, you can make chilli chutney.  ;D
Title: Re: Hottest peppers in the world
Post by: LaneC on April 14, 2018, 12:59:22 AM
  Ohhh man, I love kiwi. I am babying these things. the hottest ones are very slow to grow. They are about an inch tall, and I wheel them into the sun for 15-30 minites at a whack. I don't want to oversun them. There is severe weather predicted for tonight so I am glad I can get them in out of the bad weather. I like your idea of the hot shots :D I bet they put the young ones in their place. I am really liking the spicy food. I am working my way up. I really appreciate the replies. Thanks a bunch.
Title: Re: Hottest peppers in the world
Post by: Ianab on April 22, 2018, 03:02:19 AM
(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10460/20180422_163438.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1524379539)

How the plants look today. 

Might do a harvest, and throw them in the freezer until the kiwifruit are in season 
Title: Re: Hottest peppers in the world
Post by: LaneC on April 22, 2018, 05:15:45 PM
Those look nice. I am waiting on mine to start taking off pretty quick. They seem to be doing ok, I guess I am trying to rush them. I figure, out of all the seeds I planted, I should have a couple of each type that will make it to maturity.
Title: Re: Hottest peppers in the world
Post by: LaneC on July 14, 2018, 12:00:38 AM
  Peppers are finally coming in. I have some beautiful Carolina Reapers, Ghost peppers, Apocalypse Scorpion, Butch T Scorpion, Cayenne and jalapeno. I am glad I planted as many as I did, as this was a learning curve, and I started out with probably 25 plants (started from seed ) and ended up with 10 fine specimens. They are doing great. Thanks Ian for the tips.
Title: Re: Hottest peppers in the world
Post by: LaneC on August 08, 2018, 11:13:28 PM
   Thanks again Ian for the tips. I have a bunch of peppers coming in. I actually have to keep them out of the sun. It sounds weird, but the sun is killing them.  Almost all of them cannot stand full sun. All opinions are ok, but I can tell you, I have moved them into the shade and I have a bunch of the hottest peppers in the world. I am going to use them to help a bunch of folks I know, by making a spray to keep the deer, coons and hopefully hogs away from their gardens. These are some seriously hot peppers, but hopefully the deer and all will stay away from the strong smell. I will keep yall updated.
Title: Re: Hottest peppers in the world
Post by: Ianab on August 09, 2018, 01:53:03 AM
Yeah, if the plants are growing in a shelter like a shade house they tend to burn off a  bit if suddenly taken out into full sun. I like to get mine planted out into full sun as soon as I can, before they thing about flowering. Even though they take a bit of a hit, the new hardier growth soon comes away. They should still grow and fruit in a more sheltered location, but the fruit may not be as hot. 

Chances are this isn't actually a problem  smiley_devil  :D  The difference between 1,000,000 scu and 1,200,000 is academic.  whiteflag_smiley
Title: Re: Hottest peppers in the world
Post by: Texas Ranger on August 09, 2018, 09:41:27 AM
Jees, you'll play with snakes and wild dogs as well?  Much past a jalapeno and I back away.
Title: Re: Hottest peppers in the world
Post by: LaneC on August 09, 2018, 11:47:25 AM
 :D :D
Title: Re: Hottest peppers in the world
Post by: Runningalucas on August 09, 2018, 12:33:25 PM
My wife with the 'green thumb' ::) plants the serrano, jalepeno, bell peppers, and others all right next to each other;  I thought it was a fluke the first year, but every year since then, it's proven true that a lot of them cross pollinate.  It's like the proverbial box of chocolate; you never know what a lot of them will taste like...lol

I sometimes wish they were separated. lol
 
Title: Re: Hottest peppers in the world
Post by: LaneC on August 09, 2018, 03:51:19 PM
   I have heard that they do cross pollinate also. I researched it a bit, and one article was saying that it only effects the seeds. I can say, the jalapenos that I have planted, which are right by my superhot peppers, are very very hot. I have not even attempted to eat a superhot raw, but I like jalapenos with a meal, and my nose and eyes runs big time while eating these jalapenos. 
Title: Re: Hottest peppers in the world
Post by: Ianab on August 09, 2018, 04:14:28 PM
A lot of the varieties are Capsicum annuum, and hence are considered the same species, and will cross pollinate easily. The fruit will grow true as that's not affected by the DNA in the seeds. It's what the seeds will grow into that become a bit of a lucky dip. They will be chillies, that's about all you can be sure of. But this is basically how new varieties are created. 
 
So if you want seeds that grow consistent, keep the plants separated. If you are happy to buy new seeds each year, it doesn't matter. 

Other type is chilli are different species. Not sure if they hybridize easily or not. Habanero is Capsicum chinense and Tobasco is Capsicum frutescens for example.
Title: Re: Hottest peppers in the world
Post by: LaneC on August 12, 2018, 03:32:58 PM
  I was wondering about the difference in drying these superhot peppers, or using a blender to grind them up into a paste for making a pepper spray to keep the deer out of peas. Would you lose much potency if you dehydrated them? That way I could store a lot more in a small jar than blending them. Then when the time comes, I am thinking of rehydrating them by letting the powder steep in the water of a hand sprayer while it is in cheesecloth (a fine filtering screen), then using the spray to deter the critters and deer.
Title: Re: Hottest peppers in the world
Post by: LaneC on September 25, 2018, 03:29:40 PM
   I have close to a gallon of superhots pickled and more are on the way. They are full of peppers. I am going to dry some and see how much space I can save. I am thinking they will retain the oil, Therefore when rehydrated, they will produce the strong smell to keep the critters away. I made some hot sauce with some and it is very very hot, but very good at the same time.
Title: Re: Hottest peppers in the world
Post by: Raider Bill on September 25, 2018, 04:41:58 PM
  I have close to a gallon of superhots pickled and more are on the way. They are full of peppers. I am going to dry some and see how much space I can save. I am thinking they will retain the oil, Therefore when rehydrated, they will produce the strong smell to keep the critters away. I made some hot sauce with some and it is very very hot, but very good at the same time.
Do not dehydrate them in your house! 2 people I know did it and they cried for weeks.
Title: Re: Hottest peppers in the world
Post by: LaneC on September 25, 2018, 10:27:47 PM
 ;D  Good tip. Thanks. 
Title: Re: Hottest peppers in the world
Post by: Ianab on September 25, 2018, 11:27:44 PM
Do not dehydrate them in your house! 2 people I know did it and they cried for weeks.


I can believe that :D
Just chopping them up makes my nose run, and I usually go and have a shower after to make SURE it's all washed off.

Got a makeshift greenhouse set up in an old pig pen at a friends place, and am getting an assortment of chilli plants established. Should extend our growing season a lot, at both ends. It's technically spring here, but it's been snowing today a bit further up the Mt, so not exactly sub tropical chilli growing weather. Some seasons I've had them not really grow until end of December. Hopefully this way the hardier ones will be almost fruiting by then. 

(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10460/20180923_100754.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1537932520) 
Title: Re: Hottest peppers in the world
Post by: LaneC on September 27, 2018, 10:34:45 AM
  That looks like a lot of thought went into that garden.